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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Raman Sangra <RS...@healthpi.com.au> on 2013/01/15 00:08:23 UTC
Google Maps
Hi all,
I have been developing on Flex for quite some time. Looking at the work
you guys have been busy doing, I feel Flex may still find way out to be
best UI development SDK. One big question in my mind is what happens to
MAPS, Google as we know holds the best and most updated data of world
wide maps, and POI information.
They are going to disable the Maps Flash API by Sep. 2014. This is a
real downplay for business applications. However if we see flex as
simply a game/animation development SDK, it would be ok. But there are
serious business apps that were built for business users. These business
users are all shifting to mobile devices ipads and other tablets.
I guess mobile devices may get targeted via AIR apps, but still the
integration of some free qualified maps API either Google, ESRI or other
provider would really be a big help.
My thoughts, I would appreciate some other opinions and perspectives.
Regards,
Raman S.
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi
You could use the static map API in Flex via HTTP calls , even though it's "static" it has a lot of features.
https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/staticmaps/
Justin
Re: Google Maps
Posted by gammajack <jr...@gammasports.com>.
This is something that MUST be addressed. If I'm not going to rebuild my
application to use static map images or retool to use MapQuest etc. What
recommendations does anyone have for how I can proceed and still using
Google Maps? Should I build a browser into my views and somehow use the new
JS API?
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RE: Google Maps
Posted by Raman Sangra <RS...@healthpi.com.au>.
I did try their SDK, very well featured and plenty of support. I agree
they have an excellent product.
The only downside is the maps are only limited to very developed
countries, for third/second world, the maps are only available at very
high zoom and are at least five years old. This has a problem since all
businesses are looking towards developing nations for new projects and
the landscape there is changing so fast, you will get lost if they are
few years old.
Few cities that have changed in as many years:
Shanghai
Dubai
Singapore
New Delhi
Mumbai
Ahmedabad (India)
The only real way is a cross over app with Iframes. Google ditching MAP
API in my view was the biggest setback for flex, in many ways even
bigger then Apple dumping Flash.
Regards,
Raman S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [mailto:nicholas@spoon.as]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 3:34 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use
them in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
bounds ahead of everybody else.
-Nick
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Raman Sangra
<RS...@healthpi.com.au>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been developing on Flex for quite some time. Looking at the
> work you guys have been busy doing, I feel Flex may still find way out
> to be best UI development SDK. One big question in my mind is what
> happens to MAPS, Google as we know holds the best and most updated
> data of world wide maps, and POI information.
>
> They are going to disable the Maps Flash API by Sep. 2014. This is a
> real downplay for business applications. However if we see flex as
> simply a game/animation development SDK, it would be ok. But there are
> serious business apps that were built for business users. These
> business users are all shifting to mobile devices ipads and other
tablets.
>
> I guess mobile devices may get targeted via AIR apps, but still the
> integration of some free qualified maps API either Google, ESRI or
> other provider would really be a big help.
>
> My thoughts, I would appreciate some other opinions and perspectives.
>
> Regards,
> Raman S.
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Tolga Kaya <to...@gmail.com>.
>
> (a) *No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service.* You must not
> access or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or
> means other than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly
> authorized means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map
> tiles or imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented
> Google interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
https://developers.google.com/maps/terms
2013/1/15 Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>
> What does the js Api return that is different from the flex api? And can
> we build a converter before Sept 14' ?
> On Jan 15, 2013 7:02 AM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >
> >> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use
> them
> >> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
> >>
> >> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
> >> bounds ahead of everybody else.
> >>
> >
> > ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all based
> > on it but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but
> their
> > public spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled
> data
> > in urban areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality like
> > elevation profile & routing.
> >
> > google dropping flex was a crying shame.
> >
> >
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Jayson Pierringer <jp...@gmail.com>.
Like Bobby mentioned, the Mapquest API is good option. My team is using the
Mapquest API and it plays pretty nice with Flex. The only problem I
noticed is with resizing (pinch zoom), if the map is in the details view of
a SplitViewNavigator and the user zooms in, the graphic will cover the
master view until the resize event is complete. So far the map data seems
good and the API is pretty easy to work with.
Jayson
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>wrote:
> And that is the joy of relying on 3rd parties -- especially ones that you
> don't pay or have a contract with...
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Tolga Kaya <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
> > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
> >
> > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
> >
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
And that is the joy of relying on 3rd parties -- especially ones that you
don't pay or have a contract with...
-Nick
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Tolga Kaya <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
>
> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>
> > Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
Using Google JS library and server API are different things.
Google doesn't allow access to their map server and data through any
client component not provided by Google.
So, there is no way to legally build another Flash API for Google maps.
If nothing changes in the meantime Google maps swf is probably gone next
year.
OpenScales (http://openscales.org) is another nice open source library
that works with Flex.
Map24 from Navteq is also an interesting data source, but they don't
have Flash component. Not sure if something changed, but as I remember
their API rules were less strict than Google's.
Cheers,
Tomislav
On 15.1.2013. 16:23, Harbs wrote:
> Huh?
>
> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>
>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
>>
>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Delporte Frank <F....@TELEVIC.com>.
Hello,
Since Google decided to step away from Flash/Flex, we decided to use modestmaps in combination with openstreetmaps and are very happy with the results! Good maps for the regions we need...
http://modestmaps.com/
https://github.com/migurski/modestmaps-as3
http://www.openstreetmap.org/
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/interactive_maps.html
Gr,
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Appleby [mailto:Ian.Appleby@bcs.org]
Sent: donderdag 17 januari 2013 18:55
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Google Maps
It basically worked, and had a bit of interaction with clickable markers/polygons, supported scrolling and drag actions (although we had trouble with IE6 on those).
We just found it really hard work to innovate with it. We struggled to make things we were confident would work everywhere flash does. We feared any change which impacted the mapping side, as it was obviously going to be far more work/pain than other features.
The big flash/flex pros such as everything working roughly the same, so in this case, things like key/mouse/touch interactions, events, display states, skins, nevermind fancy stuff like transitions/tweening are impossible to make consistent in one context, never mind once you start getting the browser discrepancies coming in.
I'm sure it could be useful for a range of purposes, I guess it depends how much complexity you need, but there are bounds, both in terms of functionality and performance which didn't work out for us.
-Ian
From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatadazz@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2013 17:34
To: dev@flex.apache.org; Ian.Appleby@bcs.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
What do you mean by "Flexyness" ? :)
2013/1/17 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
We used to use an approach not dissimilar from this before the Google maps API for flash, but ultimately found it to be restrictive.
It also incurred some significant performance overheads when you start doing more complicated integrations.
I don't see any alternatives if you want Google imagery under their current license, but I don't know how far down this line you can go without losing the "flexyness".
- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatadazz@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2013 17:15
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
We do have one.
I will also share that soon.
Cheers,
Alain
2013/1/17 Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>
> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of 'components'
> (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
> interesting thing.
> Cheers,
>
> Tomislav
>
>
> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>
>> Hallo Markus,
>>
>> Thx for the inputs.
>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j
>> all in Java.
>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>
>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Hi Alain,
>>>
>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>
>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>> into the flex app.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>
>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>
>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#**misc.maps.GoogleMaps<http://flex4j.app
>>>> spot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps>
>>>>
>>>> Flex4j is build on top of
>>>> Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/**flash4j<http://emitrom.com/flash4j>)
>>>> which
>>>>
>>> itself
>>>
>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>>>>
>>> library.
>>>
>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As
>>>> you
>>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>> see it
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>> integrate
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>> API
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>
>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without
>>>>>>> going through their API.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> external
>>>>>
>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>.
It basically worked, and had a bit of interaction with clickable
markers/polygons, supported scrolling and drag actions (although we had
trouble with IE6 on those).
We just found it really hard work to innovate with it. We struggled to make
things we were confident would work everywhere flash does. We feared any
change which impacted the mapping side, as it was obviously going to be far
more work/pain than other features.
The big flash/flex pros such as everything working roughly the same, so in
this case, things like key/mouse/touch interactions, events, display states,
skins, nevermind fancy stuff like transitions/tweening are impossible to
make consistent in one context, never mind once you start getting the
browser discrepancies coming in.
I'm sure it could be useful for a range of purposes, I guess it depends how
much complexity you need, but there are bounds, both in terms of
functionality and performance which didn't work out for us.
-Ian
From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatadazz@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2013 17:34
To: dev@flex.apache.org; Ian.Appleby@bcs.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
What do you mean by "Flexyness" ? :)
2013/1/17 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
We used to use an approach not dissimilar from this before the Google maps
API for flash, but ultimately found it to be restrictive.
It also incurred some significant performance overheads when you start doing
more complicated integrations.
I don't see any alternatives if you want Google imagery under their current
license, but I don't know how far down this line you can go without losing
the "flexyness".
- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatadazz@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2013 17:15
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
We do have one.
I will also share that soon.
Cheers,
Alain
2013/1/17 Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>
> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of 'components'
> (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
> interesting thing.
> Cheers,
>
> Tomislav
>
>
> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>
>> Hallo Markus,
>>
>> Thx for the inputs.
>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j
>> all in Java.
>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>
>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Hi Alain,
>>>
>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>
>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>> into the flex app.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>
>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>
>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#**misc.maps.GoogleMaps<http://flex4j.app
>>>> spot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps>
>>>>
>>>> Flex4j is build on top of
>>>> Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/**flash4j<http://emitrom.com/flash4j>)
>>>> which
>>>>
>>> itself
>>>
>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>>>>
>>> library.
>>>
>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As
>>>> you
>>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>> see it
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>> integrate
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>> API
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>
>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without
>>>>>>> going through their API.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> external
>>>>>
>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
What do you mean by "Flexyness" ? :)
2013/1/17 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
> We used to use an approach not dissimilar from this before the Google maps
> API for flash, but ultimately found it to be restrictive.
> It also incurred some significant performance overheads when you start
> doing
> more complicated integrations.
>
> I don't see any alternatives if you want Google imagery under their current
> license, but I don't know how far down this line you can go without losing
> the "flexyness".
>
> - Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatadazz@gmail.com]
> Sent: 17 January 2013 17:15
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>
> We do have one.
> I will also share that soon.
> Cheers,
>
> Alain
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>
>
> > There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
> 'components'
> > (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> > If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
> > interesting thing.
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tomislav
> >
> >
> > On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >
> >> Hallo Markus,
> >>
> >> Thx for the inputs.
> >> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> >> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j
> >> all in Java.
> >> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
> >>
> >> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >>
> >> Hi Alain,
> >>>
> >>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
> >>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
> >>>
> >>> Example:
> >>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> >>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> >>> - or another tab in your explorer
> >>> - the content is always behind the map
> >>>
> >>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
> >>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
> >>> into the flex app.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>
> >>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> >>>> Here is a life demo :
> >>>>
> >>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#**misc.maps.GoogleMaps<http://flex4j.app
> >>>> spot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps>
> >>>>
> >>>> Flex4j is build on top of
> >>>> Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/**flash4j<http://emitrom.com/flash4j>)
> >>>> which
> >>>>
> >>> itself
> >>>
> >>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> >>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
> >>>>
> >>> library.
> >>>
> >>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As
> >>>> you
> >>>>
> >>> can
> >>>
> >>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
> >>>> see it
> >>>>
> >>> in
> >>>
> >>>> action.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
> >>>>> integrate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> the
> >>>
> >>>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps
> API.
> >>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
> >>>>>> API
> >>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> if
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> coming
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> be
> >>>
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without
> >>>>>>> going through their API.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Mark
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> external
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their
> >>>>>> new
> >>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
> >>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> >>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
> >>>>>>>>> Not
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
> >>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
> >>>>>>>>>> illegal
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>.
We used to use an approach not dissimilar from this before the Google maps
API for flash, but ultimately found it to be restrictive.
It also incurred some significant performance overheads when you start doing
more complicated integrations.
I don't see any alternatives if you want Google imagery under their current
license, but I don't know how far down this line you can go without losing
the "flexyness".
- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatadazz@gmail.com]
Sent: 17 January 2013 17:15
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
We do have one.
I will also share that soon.
Cheers,
Alain
2013/1/17 Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>
> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of 'components'
> (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
> interesting thing.
> Cheers,
>
> Tomislav
>
>
> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>
>> Hallo Markus,
>>
>> Thx for the inputs.
>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j
>> all in Java.
>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>
>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Hi Alain,
>>>
>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>
>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>> into the flex app.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>
>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>
>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#**misc.maps.GoogleMaps<http://flex4j.app
>>>> spot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps>
>>>>
>>>> Flex4j is build on top of
>>>> Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/**flash4j<http://emitrom.com/flash4j>)
>>>> which
>>>>
>>> itself
>>>
>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>>>>
>>> library.
>>>
>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As
>>>> you
>>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>> see it
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>> integrate
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>> API
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>
>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without
>>>>>>> going through their API.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> external
>>>>>
>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
We do have one.
I will also share that soon.
Cheers,
Alain
2013/1/17 Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>
> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of 'components'
> (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
> interesting thing.
> Cheers,
>
> Tomislav
>
>
> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>
>> Hallo Markus,
>>
>> Thx for the inputs.
>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j all
>> in Java.
>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>
>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>
>> Hi Alain,
>>>
>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays
>>> over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>
>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into the
>>> flex app.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>
>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>
>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#**misc.maps.GoogleMaps<http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps>
>>>>
>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/**flash4j<http://emitrom.com/flash4j>)
>>>> which
>>>>
>>> itself
>>>
>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>>>>
>>> library.
>>>
>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you
>>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see it
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> coming
>>>>>
>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> external
>>>>>
>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>.
I agree. We looked at rewriting the whole Google flash api to use the for-js
web services, but the license is the stumbling block.
There's just no way to get the same experience within the current license
terms.
-Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [mailto:nicholas@spoon.as]
Sent: 20 January 2013 16:52
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
-Nick
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
> work fine.
>
> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
> apps. Right?
>
> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that the
> map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we couldn't
> just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>
> > There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> > If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
> > an
> interesting thing.
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tomislav
> >
> > On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >> Hallo Markus,
> >>
> >> Thx for the inputs.
> >> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> >> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
> >> Flash4j
> all
> >> in Java.
> >> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
> >>
> >> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >>
> >>> Hi Alain,
> >>>
> >>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
> >>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
> >>>
> >>> Example:
> >>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> >>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> >>> - or another tab in your explorer
> >>> - the content is always behind the map
> >>>
> >>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
> >>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
> >>> into
> the
> >>> flex app.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>
> >>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> >>>> Here is a life demo :
> >>>>
> >>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
> >>>>
> >>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
> >>>> which
> >>> itself
> >>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> >>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
> >>>> based
> >>> library.
> >>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
> >>>> As you
> >>> can
> >>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
> >>>> see
> it
> >>> in
> >>>> action.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
> >>>>>> integrate
> >>> the
> >>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
> >>>>>> Maps
> API.
> >>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
> >>>>>>> API
> even
> >>>>> if
> >>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
> >>>>>>> data is
> >>>>> coming
> >>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
> would
> >>> be
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
> >>>>>>> without
> going
> >>>>>>> through their API.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Mark
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>> external
> >>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
> >>>>>>> their
> new
> >>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
> >>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
> >>>>>>>> Development
> with
> >>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
> >>>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> >>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
> Not
> >>>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
> >>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
> >>>>>>>>>>> illegal
> >>>>>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
> >>>>>>>>>>> personal
> >>>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
> >>>>> APIs?
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Maybe someone should just talk to someone at Google. I can't imagine that they have idealistic problems with Flex including a Google Maps component.
Does anyone have connections to someone that we could talk to about this?
On Jan 22, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Kessler CTR Mark J wrote:
> So the only real stumbling block is the "wrapper" clause. But it says you can "obtain Google's written consent". Could we get a consent for some flex component that could be used as a wrapper?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Appleby [mailto:Ian.Appleby@bcs.org]
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 15:53
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Google Maps
>
> We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a couple of
> things:
>
> 10.1.1. General Restrictions.
> (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not access
> or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means other
> than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly authorized
> means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles or
> imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
> interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
>
> (c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
> decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a substitute
> or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless this is
> expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
>
> 10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
> Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
> (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not
> (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
>
> (a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the Service,
> unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you are
> not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
> (such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data) in an
> API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation that
> reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you are
> not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your Maps
> API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
> beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or content
> constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
> Implementation.
>
> The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what constitutes
> "the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a substitute
> flash library based on the Google services..
> It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had very
> positive responses in the past.
>
> -Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>
> I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is
> it against the agreement?
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
>> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
>> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
>>
>> -Nick
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
>>> work fine.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
>>> apps. Right?
>>>
>>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
>>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
>>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
>>>> an
>>> interesting thing.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Tomislav
>>>>
>>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
>>>>> Flash4j
>>> all
>>>>> in Java.
>>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>>>>> into
>>> the
>>>>>> flex app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>> library.
>>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
>>>>>>> As you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>>>>> see
>>> it
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
>>>>>>>>> Maps
>>> API.
>>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>>>>>> API
>>> even
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
>>>>>>>>>> data is
>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>> going
>>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
>>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
So the only real stumbling block is the "wrapper" clause. But it says you can "obtain Google's written consent". Could we get a consent for some flex component that could be used as a wrapper?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Appleby [mailto:Ian.Appleby@bcs.org]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 15:53
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Google Maps
We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a couple of
things:
10.1.1. General Restrictions.
(a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not access
or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means other
than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly authorized
means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles or
imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
(c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a substitute
or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless this is
expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
(Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not
(nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
(a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the Service,
unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you are
not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
(such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data) in an
API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation that
reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you are
not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your Maps
API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or content
constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
Implementation.
The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what constitutes
"the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a substitute
flash library based on the Google services..
It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had very
positive responses in the past.
-Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is
it against the agreement?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
>> work fine.
>>
>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
>> apps. Right?
>>
>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>>
>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
>>> an
>> interesting thing.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tomislav
>>>
>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>>
>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
>>>> Flash4j
>> all
>>>> in Java.
>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>>
>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>>
>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example:
>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>>>> into
>> the
>>>>> flex app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
>>>>>> which
>>>>> itself
>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
>>>>>> based
>>>>> library.
>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
>>>>>> As you
>>>>> can
>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>>>> see
>> it
>>>>> in
>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
>>>>>>>> Maps
>> API.
>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>>>>> API
>> even
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
>>>>>>>>> data is
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
>>>>>>>>> without
>> going
>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
>>>>>>>>> their
>> new
>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
>>>>>>>>>> Development
>> with
>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>> Not
>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
Should work yes.
Actually wrapping the JS API in ActionScript should be pretty
straighforward.
The other thing should be displaying the map itself.
Something like the FlexIFrame component could help.
2013/1/20 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> I've never done WGT work, but I assume that the APIs don't need GWT.
> Shouldn't vanilla Javascript work?
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>
> > Yes ExternalInterface could work. But wil require some work for the
> > ActionScript JS interction. Well actually FaBridge could help. What s
> > missing in ActionScript is the concept of JavaScriptObject a.k.a
> > OverlayTypes.
> >
> >
> https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsOverlay
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/20 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Yup. I was thinking something like ExternalInterface.
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >>
> >>> One solution could be to use ExternalInterface to interact with the JS
> >> API.
> >>> But that s a nightmare to do from ActionScript.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/20 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
> >>>
> >>>> We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a
> >> couple
> >>>> of
> >>>> things:
> >>>>
> >>>> 10.1.1. General Restrictions.
> >>>> (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not
> >>>> access
> >>>> or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means
> >> other
> >>>> than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly
> >> authorized
> >>>> means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles
> >> or
> >>>> imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
> >>>> interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
> >>>>
> >>>> (c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer
> or
> >>>> decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a
> >> substitute
> >>>> or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless
> >> this is
> >>>> expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
> >>>>
> >>>> 10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted
> to
> >>>> Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section
> 8
> >>>> (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must
> >> not
> >>>> (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> (a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the
> >>>> Service,
> >>>> unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you
> >> are
> >>>> not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or
> Content
> >>>> (such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data)
> >> in an
> >>>> API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation
> >> that
> >>>> reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you
> >> are
> >>>> not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your
> >> Maps
> >>>> API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
> >>>> beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or
> >> content
> >>>> constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
> >>>> Implementation.
> >>>>
> >>>> The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what
> >> constitutes
> >>>> "the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a
> >>>> substitute
> >>>> flash library based on the Google services..
> >>>> It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had
> >> very
> >>>> positive responses in the past.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Ian
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
> >>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs,
> >> why is
> >>>> it against the agreement?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license
> >> agreement.
> >>>>> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component
> should
> >>>>>> work fine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about
> web
> >>>>>> apps. Right?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
> >>>>>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
> >>>>>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display
> list?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
> >>>>>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> >>>>>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
> >>>>>>> an
> >>>>>> interesting thing.
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tomislav
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hallo Markus,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thx for the inputs.
> >>>>>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> >>>>>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
> >>>>>>>> Flash4j
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>> in Java.
> >>>>>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1
> release.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Alain,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
> >>>>>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex
> application.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Example:
> >>>>>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> >>>>>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> >>>>>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
> >>>>>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML
> frame
> >>>>>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
> >>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> flex app.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <
> >> jazzmatadazz@gmail.com
> >>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> >>>>>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>> itself
> >>>>>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> >>>>>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
> >>>>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>>>> library.
> >>>>>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
> >>>>>>>>>> As you
> >>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
> >>>>>>>>>> see
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <
> jazzmatadazz@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> integrate
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maps
> >>>>>> API.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> API
> >>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> data is
> >>>>>>>>>>> coming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal
> way
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> through their API.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>>> external
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would
> use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into
> anyhow
> >> ?
> >>>>>> Not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
> >>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
I've never done WGT work, but I assume that the APIs don't need GWT. Shouldn't vanilla Javascript work?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> Yes ExternalInterface could work. But wil require some work for the
> ActionScript JS interction. Well actually FaBridge could help. What s
> missing in ActionScript is the concept of JavaScriptObject a.k.a
> OverlayTypes.
>
> https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsOverlay
>
>
> 2013/1/20 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>
>> Yup. I was thinking something like ExternalInterface.
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>
>>> One solution could be to use ExternalInterface to interact with the JS
>> API.
>>> But that s a nightmare to do from ActionScript.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/20 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
>>>
>>>> We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a
>> couple
>>>> of
>>>> things:
>>>>
>>>> 10.1.1. General Restrictions.
>>>> (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not
>>>> access
>>>> or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means
>> other
>>>> than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly
>> authorized
>>>> means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles
>> or
>>>> imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
>>>> interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
>>>>
>>>> (c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
>>>> decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a
>> substitute
>>>> or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless
>> this is
>>>> expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
>>>>
>>>> 10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
>>>> Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
>>>> (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must
>> not
>>>> (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
>>>>
>>>> (a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the
>>>> Service,
>>>> unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you
>> are
>>>> not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
>>>> (such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data)
>> in an
>>>> API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation
>> that
>>>> reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you
>> are
>>>> not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your
>> Maps
>>>> API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
>>>> beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or
>> content
>>>> constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
>>>> Implementation.
>>>>
>>>> The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what
>> constitutes
>>>> "the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a
>>>> substitute
>>>> flash library based on the Google services..
>>>> It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had
>> very
>>>> positive responses in the past.
>>>>
>>>> -Ian
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>
>>>> I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs,
>> why is
>>>> it against the agreement?
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license
>> agreement.
>>>>> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
>>>>>> work fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
>>>>>> apps. Right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
>>>>>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
>>>>>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>>>>>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>>>>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>> interesting thing.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomislav
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>>>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>>>>>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
>>>>>>>> Flash4j
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> in Java.
>>>>>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>>>>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>>>>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> flex app.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <
>> jazzmatadazz@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> library.
>>>>>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
>>>>>>>>>> As you
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maps
>>>>>> API.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>> API
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data is
>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow
>> ?
>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
>>>>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
Yes ExternalInterface could work. But wil require some work for the
ActionScript JS interction. Well actually FaBridge could help. What s
missing in ActionScript is the concept of JavaScriptObject a.k.a
OverlayTypes.
https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuideCodingBasicsOverlay
2013/1/20 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> Yup. I was thinking something like ExternalInterface.
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>
> > One solution could be to use ExternalInterface to interact with the JS
> API.
> > But that s a nightmare to do from ActionScript.
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/20 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
> >
> >> We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a
> couple
> >> of
> >> things:
> >>
> >> 10.1.1. General Restrictions.
> >> (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not
> >> access
> >> or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means
> other
> >> than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly
> authorized
> >> means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles
> or
> >> imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
> >> interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
> >>
> >> (c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
> >> decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a
> substitute
> >> or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless
> this is
> >> expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
> >>
> >> 10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
> >> Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
> >> (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must
> not
> >> (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
> >>
> >> (a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the
> >> Service,
> >> unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you
> are
> >> not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
> >> (such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data)
> in an
> >> API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation
> that
> >> reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you
> are
> >> not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your
> Maps
> >> API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
> >> beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or
> content
> >> constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
> >> Implementation.
> >>
> >> The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what
> constitutes
> >> "the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a
> >> substitute
> >> flash library based on the Google services..
> >> It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had
> very
> >> positive responses in the past.
> >>
> >> -Ian
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
> >> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>
> >> I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs,
> why is
> >> it against the agreement?
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license
> agreement.
> >>> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
> >>>
> >>> -Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
> >>>> work fine.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
> >>>> apps. Right?
> >>>>
> >>>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
> >>>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
> >>>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
> >>>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> >>>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
> >>>>> an
> >>>> interesting thing.
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tomislav
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >>>>>> Hallo Markus,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thx for the inputs.
> >>>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> >>>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
> >>>>>> Flash4j
> >>>> all
> >>>>>> in Java.
> >>>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Alain,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
> >>>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Example:
> >>>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> >>>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> >>>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
> >>>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
> >>>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
> >>>>>>> into
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> flex app.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <
> jazzmatadazz@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> >>>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
> >>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>> itself
> >>>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> >>>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
> >>>>>>>> based
> >>>>>>> library.
> >>>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
> >>>>>>>> As you
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
> >>>>>>>> see
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
> >>>>>>>>>> integrate
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
> >>>>>>>>>> Maps
> >>>> API.
> >>>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
> >>>>>>>>>>> API
> >>>> even
> >>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
> >>>>>>>>>>> data is
> >>>>>>>>> coming
> >>>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
> >>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>> going
> >>>>>>>>>>> through their API.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Mark
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
> >>>>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>> external
> >>>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
> >>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Development
> >>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow
> ?
> >>>> Not
> >>>>>>>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
> >>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
> >>>>>>>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
> >>>>>>>>> APIs?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Yup. I was thinking something like ExternalInterface.
On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> One solution could be to use ExternalInterface to interact with the JS API.
> But that s a nightmare to do from ActionScript.
>
>
> 2013/1/20 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
>
>> We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a couple
>> of
>> things:
>>
>> 10.1.1. General Restrictions.
>> (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not
>> access
>> or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means other
>> than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly authorized
>> means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles or
>> imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
>> interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
>>
>> (c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
>> decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a substitute
>> or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless this is
>> expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
>>
>> 10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
>> Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
>> (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not
>> (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
>>
>> (a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the
>> Service,
>> unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you are
>> not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
>> (such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data) in an
>> API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation that
>> reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you are
>> not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your Maps
>> API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
>> beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or content
>> constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
>> Implementation.
>>
>> The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what constitutes
>> "the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a
>> substitute
>> flash library based on the Google services..
>> It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had very
>> positive responses in the past.
>>
>> -Ian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>
>> I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is
>> it against the agreement?
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>
>>> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
>>> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
>>>> work fine.
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
>>>> apps. Right?
>>>>
>>>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
>>>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
>>>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>>>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
>>>>> an
>>>> interesting thing.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomislav
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>>>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
>>>>>> Flash4j
>>>> all
>>>>>> in Java.
>>>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>>>>>> into
>>>> the
>>>>>>> flex app.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <jazzmatadazz@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>> library.
>>>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
>>>>>>>> As you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>>>>>> see
>>>> it
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
>>>>>>>>>> Maps
>>>> API.
>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>>>>>>> API
>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
>>>>>>>>>>> data is
>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
>>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
>>>>>>>>>>>> Development
>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
>>>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
One solution could be to use ExternalInterface to interact with the JS API.
But that s a nightmare to do from ActionScript.
2013/1/20 Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>
> We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a couple
> of
> things:
>
> 10.1.1. General Restrictions.
> (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not
> access
> or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means other
> than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly authorized
> means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles or
> imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
> interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
>
> (c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
> decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a substitute
> or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless this is
> expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
>
> 10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
> Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
> (Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not
> (nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
>
> (a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the
> Service,
> unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you are
> not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
> (such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data) in an
> API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation that
> reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you are
> not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your Maps
> API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
> beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or content
> constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
> Implementation.
>
> The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what constitutes
> "the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a
> substitute
> flash library based on the Google services..
> It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had very
> positive responses in the past.
>
> -Ian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
> Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>
> I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is
> it against the agreement?
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
> > You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
> > Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
> >> work fine.
> >>
> >> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
> >> apps. Right?
> >>
> >> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
> >> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
> >> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
> >>
> >> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
> >> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> >>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
> >>> an
> >> interesting thing.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Tomislav
> >>>
> >>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >>>> Hallo Markus,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thx for the inputs.
> >>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> >>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
> >>>> Flash4j
> >> all
> >>>> in Java.
> >>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Alain
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Alain,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
> >>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Example:
> >>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> >>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> >>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
> >>>>> - the content is always behind the map
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
> >>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
> >>>>> into
> >> the
> >>>>> flex app.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <jazzmatadazz@gmail.com
> >:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> >>>>>> Here is a life demo :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>> itself
> >>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> >>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
> >>>>>> based
> >>>>> library.
> >>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
> >>>>>> As you
> >>>>> can
> >>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
> >>>>>> see
> >> it
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>> action.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
> >>>>>>>> integrate
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
> >>>>>>>> Maps
> >> API.
> >>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
> >>>>>>>>> API
> >> even
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
> >>>>>>>>> data is
> >>>>>>> coming
> >>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
> >> would
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
> >>>>>>>>> without
> >> going
> >>>>>>>>> through their API.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Mark
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
> >>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>> external
> >>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
> >>>>>>>>> their
> >> new
> >>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
> >>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
> >>>>>>>>>> Development
> >> with
> >>>>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
> >>>>>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
> >> Not
> >>>>>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
> >>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
> >>>>>>>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
> >>>>>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
> >>>>>>> APIs?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>.
We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a couple of
things:
10.1.1. General Restrictions.
(a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not access
or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means other
than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly authorized
means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles or
imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).
(c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a substitute
or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless this is
expressly permitted or required by applicable law.
10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
(Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not
(nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:
(a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the Service,
unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you are
not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
(such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data) in an
API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation that
reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you are
not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your Maps
API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or content
constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
Implementation.
The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what constitutes
"the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit. You can't make a substitute
flash library based on the Google services..
It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had very
positive responses in the past.
-Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com]
Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is
it against the agreement?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should
>> work fine.
>>
>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
>> apps. Right?
>>
>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that
>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we
>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>>
>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be
>>> an
>> interesting thing.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tomislav
>>>
>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>>
>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from
>>>> Flash4j
>> all
>>>> in Java.
>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>>
>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>>
>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map
>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example:
>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration
>>>>> into
>> the
>>>>> flex app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j)
>>>>>> which
>>>>> itself
>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS
>>>>>> based
>>>>> library.
>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps.
>>>>>> As you
>>>>> can
>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to
>>>>>> see
>> it
>>>>> in
>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to
>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google
>>>>>>>> Maps
>> API.
>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google
>>>>>>>>> API
>> even
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the
>>>>>>>>> data is
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly
>>>>>>>>> without
>> going
>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to
>>>>>>>>> their
>> new
>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi"
>>>>>>>>> <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript
>>>>>>>>>> Development
>> with
>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api
>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>> Not
>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>> <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is it against the agreement?
On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should work
>> fine.
>>
>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
>> apps. Right?
>>
>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that the map
>> data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we couldn't just
>> grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>>
>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
>> interesting thing.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tomislav
>>>
>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>>
>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j
>> all
>>>> in Java.
>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>>
>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Alain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>>
>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays
>>>>> over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example:
>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into
>> the
>>>>> flex app.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which
>>>>> itself
>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>>>>> library.
>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you
>>>>> can
>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see
>> it
>>>>> in
>>>>>> action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps
>> API.
>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API
>> even
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without
>> going
>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their
>> new
>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development
>> with
>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>> Not
>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
-Nick
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should work
> fine.
>
> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web
> apps. Right?
>
> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that the map
> data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we couldn't just
> grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>
> > There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> > If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
> interesting thing.
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tomislav
> >
> > On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> >> Hallo Markus,
> >>
> >> Thx for the inputs.
> >> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> >> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j
> all
> >> in Java.
> >> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
> >>
> >> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Alain
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> >>
> >>> Hi Alain,
> >>>
> >>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays
> >>> over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
> >>>
> >>> Example:
> >>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> >>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> >>> - or another tab in your explorer
> >>> - the content is always behind the map
> >>>
> >>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
> >>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into
> the
> >>> flex app.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Marcus Fritze
> >>>
> >>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> >>>> Here is a life demo :
> >>>>
> >>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
> >>>>
> >>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which
> >>> itself
> >>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> >>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
> >>> library.
> >>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you
> >>> can
> >>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see
> it
> >>> in
> >>>> action.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate
> >>> the
> >>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps
> API.
> >>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alain
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API
> even
> >>>>> if
> >>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
> >>>>> coming
> >>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way
> would
> >>> be
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without
> going
> >>>>>>> through their API.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Mark
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
> >>>>> external
> >>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their
> new
> >>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development
> with
> >>>>>> Flex.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> >>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
> Not
> >>>>>>> familiar
> >>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
> >>>>>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
> >>>>>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
> >>>>> APIs?
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should work fine.
As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web apps. Right?
How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an interesting thing.
> Cheers,
>
> Tomislav
>
> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>> Hallo Markus,
>>
>> Thx for the inputs.
>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j all
>> in Java.
>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>
>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>>
>>> Hi Alain,
>>>
>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays
>>> over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>
>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into the
>>> flex app.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>
>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>
>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>
>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which
>>> itself
>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>>> library.
>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you
>>> can
>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see it
>>> in
>>>> action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate
>>> the
>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
>>>>> coming
>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would
>>> be
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>>> external
>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be an
interesting thing.
Cheers,
Tomislav
On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
> Hallo Markus,
>
> Thx for the inputs.
> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j all
> in Java.
> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>
> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alain
>
>
> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
>
>> Hi Alain,
>>
>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays
>> over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>
>> Example:
>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>> - or another tab in your explorer
>> - the content is always behind the map
>>
>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into the
>> flex app.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Marcus Fritze
>>
>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>
>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>
>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which
>> itself
>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
>> library.
>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>
>>>
>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you
>> can
>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see it
>> in
>>> action.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate
>> the
>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even
>>>> if
>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
>>>> coming
>>>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would
>> be
>>>>> to
>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>>>> external
>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
>>>>> have
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hallo Markus,
Thx for the inputs.
Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the
GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from Flash4j all
in Java.
Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
Regards,
Alain
2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>
> Hi Alain,
>
> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays
> over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>
> Example:
> - open Google Maps in your explorer
> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
> - or another tab in your explorer
> - the content is always behind the map
>
> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame
> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into the
> flex app.
>
> Best regards
>
> Marcus Fritze
>
> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Work is in progress to release it soon.
> > Here is a life demo :
> >
> > http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
> >
> > Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which
> itself
> > is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> > Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based
> library.
> > Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
> >
> >
> > For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you
> can
> > see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see it
> in
> > action.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> >
> >> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> >> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate
> the
> >>> Maps JS with Flex.
> >>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
> >>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Alain
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even
> >> if
> >>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
> >> coming
> >>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would
> be
> >>> to
> >>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
> >>>> through their API.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Mark
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> >>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >>>>
> >>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
> >> external
> >>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
> >>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
> >>> Flex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
> >>> have
> >>>> not
> >>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> >>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
> >>>> familiar
> >>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Charles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Huh?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
> >>>> beacuse
> >>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
> >>> APIs
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
> >> APIs?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
> >>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
> >>>>>>> sent from the road
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Alain,
you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
Example:
- open Google Maps in your explorer
- klick on "About" in the top right corner
- or another tab in your explorer
- the content is always behind the map
Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration into the flex app.
Best regards
Marcus Fritze
Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>:
> Work is in progress to release it soon.
> Here is a life demo :
>
> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>
> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which itself
> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based library.
> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>
>
> For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you can
> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see it in
> action.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
>
>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate the
>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alain
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even
>> if
>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
>> coming
>>>> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would be
>>> to
>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
>>>> through their API.
>>>>
>>>> -Mark
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>
>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
>> external
>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
>>> Flex.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
>>> have
>>>> not
>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
>>>> familiar
>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
>> APIs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
Work is in progress to release it soon.
Here is a life demo :
http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) which itself
is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS based library.
Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
For the upcoming 3.1 release we added support for Google Maps. As you can
see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to see it in
action.
2013/1/16 aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>
> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate the
> > Maps JS with Flex.
> > As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
> > I should be able to share some more details in a few.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Alain
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
> >
> > >
> > > I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even
> if
> > > it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is
> coming
> > > through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would be
> > to
> > > scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
> > > through their API.
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> > > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: Google Maps
> > >
> > > This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using
> external
> > > interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
> > > version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> > >
> > > On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
> > Flex.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> > > >
> > > > > Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
> > have
> > > not
> > > > > gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> > > > > Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
> > > familiar
> > > > > at all with what the Flex lib did
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > -Charles
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Huh?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
> > > beacuse
> > > > > > > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
> > APIs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript
> APIs?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > > > > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > > > > > sent from the road
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by aYo ~ <ay...@binitie.com>.
Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works
On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate the
> Maps JS with Flex.
> As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alain
>
>
> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>
> >
> > I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even if
> > it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is coming
> > through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would be
> to
> > scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
> > through their API.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Google Maps
> >
> > This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using external
> > interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
> > version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
> >
> > On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with
> Flex.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> > >
> > > > Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I
> have
> > not
> > > > gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> > > > Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
> > familiar
> > > > at all with what the Flex lib did
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > -Charles
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Huh?
> > > > >
> > > > > If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
> > beacuse
> > > > > > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal
> APIs
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > > > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > > > > sent from the road
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to integrate the
Maps JS with Flex.
As a matter a fact we provide a 100% binding of the Google Maps API.
I should be able to share some more details in a few.
Cheers,
Alain
2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>
>
> I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even if
> it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is coming
> through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would be to
> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going
> through their API.
>
> -Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>
> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using external
> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>
> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with Flex.
> >
> >
> > 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> >
> > > Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I have
> not
> > > gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> > > Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
> familiar
> > > at all with what the Flex lib did
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > -Charles
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Huh?
> > > >
> > > > If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
> beacuse
> > > > > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > > > sent from the road
> > > >
> > >
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google API even if it's the JavaScript one you are fine. Just as long as the data is coming through their API using your dev key. However the illegal way would be to scrap their websites or try to access the data directly without going through their API.
-Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akessner@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using external
interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with Flex.
>
>
> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>
> > Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I have
not
> > gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> > Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
familiar
> > at all with what the Flex lib did
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > -Charles
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Huh?
> > >
> > > If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> > >
> > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> > >
> > > > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
beacuse
> > > > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
> > > >
> > > > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > > sent from the road
> > >
> >
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about using external
interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to their new
version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with Flex.
>
>
> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>
> > Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I have
not
> > gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> > Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not
familiar
> > at all with what the Flex lib did
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > -Charles
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Huh?
> > >
> > > If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> > >
> > > On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> > >
> > > > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal
beacuse
> > > > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
> > > >
> > > > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Charles A. Monteiro
> > > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > > sent from the road
> > >
> >
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Alain Ekambi <ja...@gmail.com>.
Another reason why we went away from ActionScript Development with Flex.
2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>
> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I have not
> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not familiar
> at all with what the Flex lib did
>
> thanks
>
> -Charles
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Huh?
> >
> > If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
> >
> > On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> >
> > > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
> > > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
> > >
> > > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
> >
> > --
> > Charles A. Monteiro
> > www.monteirosfusion.com
> > sent from the road
> >
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Charles Monteiro <ch...@nycsmalltalk.org>.
Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api but I have not
gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ? Not familiar
at all with what the Flex lib did
thanks
-Charles
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Huh?
>
> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>
> > It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
> > google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
> >
> > 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
>
> --
> Charles A. Monteiro
> www.monteirosfusion.com
> sent from the road
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Huh?
If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
> google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
>
> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>
>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Tolga Kaya <to...@gmail.com>.
It could be done but as I previously stated it would be illegal beacuse
google prevents accessing the map data other than its personal APIs
2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Can't we just replicate what they did using the Javascript APIs?
On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
> *Note*: The Google Maps API for Flash has been officially deprecated as of
> September 2, 2011. The API will continue to work until September 2, 2014.
> We encourage you to migrate your code to version
> 3<https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/> of
> the Maps JavaScript API.
>
> https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/flash/tutorial-flex
>
> 2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
>
>> Forgive my ignorance, but what did the swcs provide that we're losing?
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>
>>> Google is changing their API, and dropping support for the old version
>> next
>>> year. The SWC they currently support only supports their "v1" API which
>> is
>>> retiring. They are not making a new one.
>>>
>>> I wonder if ModestMaps will support the new API....
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What does the js Api return that is different from the flex api? And
>> can
>>>> we build a converter before Sept 14' ?
>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 7:02 AM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use
>>>> them
>>>>>> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
>>>>>> bounds ahead of everybody else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all
>> based
>>>>> on it but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but
>>>> their
>>>>> public spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled
>>>> data
>>>>> in urban areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality
>> like
>>>>> elevation profile & routing.
>>>>>
>>>>> google dropping flex was a crying shame.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Tolga Kaya <to...@gmail.com>.
*Note*: The Google Maps API for Flash has been officially deprecated as of
September 2, 2011. The API will continue to work until September 2, 2014.
We encourage you to migrate your code to version
3<https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/> of
the Maps JavaScript API.
https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/flash/tutorial-flex
2013/1/15 Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>
> Forgive my ignorance, but what did the swcs provide that we're losing?
>
> On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
> > Google is changing their API, and dropping support for the old version
> next
> > year. The SWC they currently support only supports their "v1" API which
> is
> > retiring. They are not making a new one.
> >
> > I wonder if ModestMaps will support the new API....
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What does the js Api return that is different from the flex api? And
> can
> >> we build a converter before Sept 14' ?
> >> On Jan 15, 2013 7:02 AM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use
> >> them
> >>>> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
> >>>>
> >>>> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
> >>>> bounds ahead of everybody else.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all
> based
> >>> on it but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but
> >> their
> >>> public spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled
> >> data
> >>> in urban areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality
> like
> >>> elevation profile & routing.
> >>>
> >>> google dropping flex was a crying shame.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Forgive my ignorance, but what did the swcs provide that we're losing?
On Jan 15, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> Google is changing their API, and dropping support for the old version next
> year. The SWC they currently support only supports their "v1" API which is
> retiring. They are not making a new one.
>
> I wonder if ModestMaps will support the new API....
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What does the js Api return that is different from the flex api? And can
>> we build a converter before Sept 14' ?
>> On Jan 15, 2013 7:02 AM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use
>> them
>>>> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
>>>>
>>>> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
>>>> bounds ahead of everybody else.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all based
>>> on it but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but
>> their
>>> public spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled
>> data
>>> in urban areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality like
>>> elevation profile & routing.
>>>
>>> google dropping flex was a crying shame.
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Google is changing their API, and dropping support for the old version next
year. The SWC they currently support only supports their "v1" API which is
retiring. They are not making a new one.
I wonder if ModestMaps will support the new API....
-Nick
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What does the js Api return that is different from the flex api? And can
> we build a converter before Sept 14' ?
> On Jan 15, 2013 7:02 AM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> >
> >> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use
> them
> >> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
> >>
> >> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
> >> bounds ahead of everybody else.
> >>
> >
> > ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all based
> > on it but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but
> their
> > public spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled
> data
> > in urban areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality like
> > elevation profile & routing.
> >
> > google dropping flex was a crying shame.
> >
> >
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
What does the js Api return that is different from the flex api? And can
we build a converter before Sept 14' ?
On Jan 15, 2013 7:02 AM, "Paul Hastings" <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
>
>> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use them
>> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
>>
>> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
>> bounds ahead of everybody else.
>>
>
> ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all based
> on it but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but their
> public spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled data
> in urban areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality like
> elevation profile & routing.
>
> google dropping flex was a crying shame.
>
>
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 1/15/2013 11:34 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:
> I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use them
> in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
>
> The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
> bounds ahead of everybody else.
ESRI's flex API is pretty good (our bread & butter GIS apps are all based on it
but these are all tied to client's big buck arcGIS servers) but their public
spatial data is nowhere near google's, especially larger scaled data in urban
areas. ESRI's coarser data also effects other functionality like elevation
profile & routing.
google dropping flex was a crying shame.
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I use ESRI's maps in my applications with great success. I even use them
in my mobile apps. I highly recommend them.
The POI is not nearly as populated as Google's, but they are leaps and
bounds ahead of everybody else.
-Nick
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Raman Sangra <RS...@healthpi.com.au>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been developing on Flex for quite some time. Looking at the work
> you guys have been busy doing, I feel Flex may still find way out to be
> best UI development SDK. One big question in my mind is what happens to
> MAPS, Google as we know holds the best and most updated data of world
> wide maps, and POI information.
>
> They are going to disable the Maps Flash API by Sep. 2014. This is a
> real downplay for business applications. However if we see flex as
> simply a game/animation development SDK, it would be ok. But there are
> serious business apps that were built for business users. These business
> users are all shifting to mobile devices ipads and other tablets.
>
> I guess mobile devices may get targeted via AIR apps, but still the
> integration of some free qualified maps API either Google, ESRI or other
> provider would really be a big help.
>
> My thoughts, I would appreciate some other opinions and perspectives.
>
> Regards,
> Raman S.
>
>
RE: Google Maps
Posted by Raman Sangra <RS...@healthpi.com.au>.
Yepp, did had a good look while back, but it's not just the API, the
maps themselves are nowhere near to Google maps in terms of satellite
shots, street view etc.
Since all big players have no inclination to Flex ( Google, Microsoft,
Apple), there is little chance quality free maps will be available for
Flex.
Raman
-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby [mailto:bobbymzilla@netscape.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 10:26 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps
You could check out Mapquest's API. It seems to be updated for Flex and
they have a mobile api that's supported.
Bobby Rafferty
@bobbyworld
Re: Google Maps
Posted by Bobby <bo...@netscape.net>.
You could check out Mapquest's API. It seems to be updated for Flex and they have a mobile api that's supported.
Bobby Rafferty
@bobbyworld