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Posted to users@felix.apache.org by Matt Madhavan <ma...@gmail.com> on 2011/12/07 20:41:10 UTC
Urgent - PAX -logging Vs Logback
Hello,
I would like to know the Pros and cons of PaxLogging vs Logback. I have
used PaxLogging a lot but the my client's Enterprise team (different team)
that sets directions, would like to use Logback.
Can someone let me know what are the pros and cons between the two and
especially in the OSGi world?
Thanks in advance!
Matt
Re: Urgent - PAX -logging Vs Logback
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Actually, a logback backend for pax-logging has been contributed a few
weeks ago, see [1].
This hasn't been released yet, but you should have no problems giving
it a try anyway.
[1] https://github.com/ops4j/org.ops4j.pax.logging/commit/8317bd6c00a62d350ae826f078e584b31cfb9a7b
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 07:38, Sam Spycher <sa...@spycher.info> wrote:
> Hi Matt
>
> You may want to check this thread on the karaf list:
>
> http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-td3177504.html
>
> The gist of which is that opinions differ on pros and cons between pax
> logging (with default backend log4j) and logback. Pax is more osgi-aware
> and logback is simply the next generation of pax's backend log4j (same
> developers) .
>
> So yes a pax implementation with logback would be great. The problem with
> that seems mainly to lie with configadmin and configuration of log4j via a
> properties file vs. configuration of logback via XML: in configadmin you
> would be forced to set an entire logback XML config over one property,
> whilst currently you can configure log4j settings individually.
>
> Hth,
> Sam
>
> -
>
> Sent from my phone
> On Dec 7, 2011 9:47 PM, "Toni Menzel" <to...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:
>
>> For starters, LogBack is a Logging implementation, right ?
>> Pax Logging is a capture-all logging service for all major interfaces and
>> does provide a minimalistic implementation. But you want to use Pax Logging
>> + Logback in an OSGi scenario. Thats at least what i know of Logback.
>> Most of that knowledge i pull from times where log4j was hot. So i might be
>> wrong if log back might actually replace pax logging in some ways. That i
>> don't know.
>>
>> @Matt, you are sure cross posting this on felix, aries and ops4j ?
>>
>> cheers, Toni
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Matt Madhavan <mattmadhavan@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> > I would like to know the Pros and cons of PaxLogging vs Logback. I have
>> > used PaxLogging a lot but the my client's Enterprise team (different
>> team)
>> > that sets directions, would like to use Logback.
>> >
>> > Can someone let me know what are the pros and cons between the two and
>> > especially in the OSGi world?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>
>>
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Re: Urgent - PAX -logging Vs Logback
Posted by Sam Spycher <sa...@spycher.info>.
Hi Matt
You may want to check this thread on the karaf list:
http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Running-Karaf-without-PAX-Logging-td3177504.html
The gist of which is that opinions differ on pros and cons between pax
logging (with default backend log4j) and logback. Pax is more osgi-aware
and logback is simply the next generation of pax's backend log4j (same
developers) .
So yes a pax implementation with logback would be great. The problem with
that seems mainly to lie with configadmin and configuration of log4j via a
properties file vs. configuration of logback via XML: in configadmin you
would be forced to set an entire logback XML config over one property,
whilst currently you can configure log4j settings individually.
Hth,
Sam
-
Sent from my phone
On Dec 7, 2011 9:47 PM, "Toni Menzel" <to...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:
> For starters, LogBack is a Logging implementation, right ?
> Pax Logging is a capture-all logging service for all major interfaces and
> does provide a minimalistic implementation. But you want to use Pax Logging
> + Logback in an OSGi scenario. Thats at least what i know of Logback.
> Most of that knowledge i pull from times where log4j was hot. So i might be
> wrong if log back might actually replace pax logging in some ways. That i
> don't know.
>
> @Matt, you are sure cross posting this on felix, aries and ops4j ?
>
> cheers, Toni
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Matt Madhavan <mattmadhavan@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I would like to know the Pros and cons of PaxLogging vs Logback. I have
> > used PaxLogging a lot but the my client's Enterprise team (different
> team)
> > that sets directions, would like to use Logback.
> >
> > Can someone let me know what are the pros and cons between the two and
> > especially in the OSGi world?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Matt
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>
>
Re: Urgent - PAX -logging Vs Logback
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
For starters, LogBack is a Logging implementation, right ?
Pax Logging is a capture-all logging service for all major interfaces and
does provide a minimalistic implementation. But you want to use Pax Logging
+ Logback in an OSGi scenario. Thats at least what i know of Logback.
Most of that knowledge i pull from times where log4j was hot. So i might be
wrong if log back might actually replace pax logging in some ways. That i
don't know.
@Matt, you are sure cross posting this on felix, aries and ops4j ?
cheers, Toni
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Matt Madhavan <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello,
> I would like to know the Pros and cons of PaxLogging vs Logback. I have
> used PaxLogging a lot but the my client's Enterprise team (different team)
> that sets directions, would like to use Logback.
>
> Can someone let me know what are the pros and cons between the two and
> especially in the OSGi world?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Matt
>
--
Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>
Re: Urgent - PAX -logging Vs Logback
Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
For starters, LogBack is a Logging implementation, right ?
Pax Logging is a capture-all logging service for all major interfaces and
does provide a minimalistic implementation. But you want to use Pax Logging
+ Logback in an OSGi scenario. Thats at least what i know of Logback.
Most of that knowledge i pull from times where log4j was hot. So i might be
wrong if log back might actually replace pax logging in some ways. That i
don't know.
@Matt, you are sure cross posting this on felix, aries and ops4j ?
cheers, Toni
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Matt Madhavan <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello,
> I would like to know the Pros and cons of PaxLogging vs Logback. I have
> used PaxLogging a lot but the my client's Enterprise team (different team)
> that sets directions, would like to use Logback.
>
> Can someone let me know what are the pros and cons between the two and
> especially in the OSGi world?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Matt
>
--
Toni Menzel Source <http://tonimenzel.com>