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[DISCUSS] Drop Scala Shell
Hi everyone,
As was discussed quite a while ago, the community has planned to drop
support for Scala 2.11 [1]. I'm proposing to also drop the Scala Shell,
which was briefly discussed in the email thread for dropping Scala 2.11 [2].
The Scala Shell doesn't work on Scala 2.12 [3] and there hasn't been much
traction to get this working and it looks like the Flink community /
committers don't want to maintain it anymore. Alternatively, if there's
still someone interested in the Scala Shell, it could also be moved to a
3rd party repository. Removing the Scala Shell would/could help in getting
Scala 2.11 dropped quicker.
Let me know your thoughts.
Best regards,
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20845
[2]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra817c5b54e3de48d80e5b4e0ae67941d387ee25cf9779f5ae37d0486%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10911
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Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Scala Shell
Posted by Konstantin Knauf <kn...@apache.org>.
Thanks for bringing this up.
+1 for dropping the Scala Shell or moving it out of Apache Flink if there
is interest in the community to develop it further.
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:26 PM Seth Wiesman <sj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> The scala shell requires time and expertise that the contributors cannot
> provide. It will be great to let the broader community have the opportunity
> to foster and mature the scala shell outside the constraints imposed by the
> ASF.
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 9:02 AM Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Martijn,
> >
> > It is a pity that the flink community doesn't have resources to maintain
> > scala shell which is useful for interactive user experience. We
> > （Zeppelin）didn't use flink scala shell module directly, instead we
> > customized the flink scala shell. So we are still interested in scala
> shell
> > module, for us if no one want to maintain scala shell, it would be better
> > to have it as flink 3rd party library, maybe in flink-packages.org
> >
> >
> > Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com> 于2021年9月16日周四 下午7:21写道：
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > As was discussed quite a while ago, the community has planned to drop
> > > support for Scala 2.11 [1]. I'm proposing to also drop the Scala Shell,
> > > which was briefly discussed in the email thread for dropping Scala 2.11
> > > [2].
> > >
> > > The Scala Shell doesn't work on Scala 2.12 [3] and there hasn't been
> much
> > > traction to get this working and it looks like the Flink community /
> > > committers don't want to maintain it anymore. Alternatively, if there's
> > > still someone interested in the Scala Shell, it could also be moved to
> a
> > > 3rd party repository. Removing the Scala Shell would/could help in
> > getting
> > > Scala 2.11 dropped quicker.
> > >
> > > Let me know your thoughts.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20845
> > > [2]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra817c5b54e3de48d80e5b4e0ae67941d387ee25cf9779f5ae37d0486%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10911
> > >
> > >
> > > Martijn Visser | Product Manager
> > >
> > > martijn@ververica.com
> > >
> > > <https://www.ververica.com/>
> > >
> > >
> > > Follow us @VervericaData
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> >
> > Jeff Zhang
> >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Scala Shell
Posted by Seth Wiesman <sj...@gmail.com>.
+1
The scala shell requires time and expertise that the contributors cannot
provide. It will be great to let the broader community have the opportunity
to foster and mature the scala shell outside the constraints imposed by the
ASF.
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 9:02 AM Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Martijn,
>
> It is a pity that the flink community doesn't have resources to maintain
> scala shell which is useful for interactive user experience. We
> （Zeppelin）didn't use flink scala shell module directly, instead we
> customized the flink scala shell. So we are still interested in scala shell
> module, for us if no one want to maintain scala shell, it would be better
> to have it as flink 3rd party library, maybe in flink-packages.org
>
>
> Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com> 于2021年9月16日周四 下午7:21写道：
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > As was discussed quite a while ago, the community has planned to drop
> > support for Scala 2.11 [1]. I'm proposing to also drop the Scala Shell,
> > which was briefly discussed in the email thread for dropping Scala 2.11
> > [2].
> >
> > The Scala Shell doesn't work on Scala 2.12 [3] and there hasn't been much
> > traction to get this working and it looks like the Flink community /
> > committers don't want to maintain it anymore. Alternatively, if there's
> > still someone interested in the Scala Shell, it could also be moved to a
> > 3rd party repository. Removing the Scala Shell would/could help in
> getting
> > Scala 2.11 dropped quicker.
> >
> > Let me know your thoughts.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20845
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra817c5b54e3de48d80e5b4e0ae67941d387ee25cf9779f5ae37d0486%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10911
> >
> >
> > Martijn Visser | Product Manager
> >
> > martijn@ververica.com
> >
> > <https://www.ververica.com/>
> >
> >
> > Follow us @VervericaData
> >
> > --
> >
> > Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink
> > Conference
> >
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> >
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Jeff Zhang
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Scala Shell
Posted by Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>.
Sure, I would love to help on that.
Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com> 于2021年9月20日周一 下午3:01写道：
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Would you be interested in moving the Flink Scala Shell to a 3rd party
> repository and make it available on flink-packages.org ?
>
> I'm planning to open a vote thread on dropping the Scala Shell shortly.
> Thanks all for your input!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martijn
>
> I'll open up a
>
> On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 16:02, Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martijn,
>>
>> It is a pity that the flink community doesn't have resources to maintain
>> scala shell which is useful for interactive user experience. We
>> （Zeppelin）didn't use flink scala shell module directly, instead we
>> customized the flink scala shell. So we are still interested in scala
>> shell
>> module, for us if no one want to maintain scala shell, it would be better
>> to have it as flink 3rd party library, maybe in flink-packages.org
>>
>>
>> Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com> 于2021年9月16日周四 下午7:21写道：
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > As was discussed quite a while ago, the community has planned to drop
>> > support for Scala 2.11 [1]. I'm proposing to also drop the Scala Shell,
>> > which was briefly discussed in the email thread for dropping Scala 2.11
>> > [2].
>> >
>> > The Scala Shell doesn't work on Scala 2.12 [3] and there hasn't been
>> much
>> > traction to get this working and it looks like the Flink community /
>> > committers don't want to maintain it anymore. Alternatively, if there's
>> > still someone interested in the Scala Shell, it could also be moved to a
>> > 3rd party repository. Removing the Scala Shell would/could help in
>> getting
>> > Scala 2.11 dropped quicker.
>> >
>> > Let me know your thoughts.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20845
>> > [2]
>> >
>> >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra817c5b54e3de48d80e5b4e0ae67941d387ee25cf9779f5ae37d0486%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
>> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10911
>> >
>> >
>> > Martijn Visser | Product Manager
>> >
>> > martijn@ververica.com
>> >
>> > <https://www.ververica.com/>
>> >
>> >
>> > Follow us @VervericaData
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink
>> > Conference
>> >
>> > Stream Processing | Event Driven | Real Time
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Jeff Zhang
>>
>
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Best Regards
Jeff Zhang
Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Scala Shell
Posted by Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com>.
Hi Jeff,
Would you be interested in moving the Flink Scala Shell to a 3rd party
repository and make it available on flink-packages.org ?
I'm planning to open a vote thread on dropping the Scala Shell shortly.
Thanks all for your input!
Thanks,
Martijn
I'll open up a
On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 16:02, Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Martijn,
>
> It is a pity that the flink community doesn't have resources to maintain
> scala shell which is useful for interactive user experience. We
> （Zeppelin）didn't use flink scala shell module directly, instead we
> customized the flink scala shell. So we are still interested in scala shell
> module, for us if no one want to maintain scala shell, it would be better
> to have it as flink 3rd party library, maybe in flink-packages.org
>
>
> Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com> 于2021年9月16日周四 下午7:21写道：
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > As was discussed quite a while ago, the community has planned to drop
> > support for Scala 2.11 [1]. I'm proposing to also drop the Scala Shell,
> > which was briefly discussed in the email thread for dropping Scala 2.11
> > [2].
> >
> > The Scala Shell doesn't work on Scala 2.12 [3] and there hasn't been much
> > traction to get this working and it looks like the Flink community /
> > committers don't want to maintain it anymore. Alternatively, if there's
> > still someone interested in the Scala Shell, it could also be moved to a
> > 3rd party repository. Removing the Scala Shell would/could help in
> getting
> > Scala 2.11 dropped quicker.
> >
> > Let me know your thoughts.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20845
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra817c5b54e3de48d80e5b4e0ae67941d387ee25cf9779f5ae37d0486%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10911
> >
> >
> > Martijn Visser | Product Manager
> >
> > martijn@ververica.com
> >
> > <https://www.ververica.com/>
> >
> >
> > Follow us @VervericaData
> >
> > --
> >
> > Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink
> > Conference
> >
> > Stream Processing | Event Driven | Real Time
> >
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Jeff Zhang
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Drop Scala Shell
Posted by Jeff Zhang <zj...@gmail.com>.
Hi Martijn,
It is a pity that the flink community doesn't have resources to maintain
scala shell which is useful for interactive user experience. We
（Zeppelin）didn't use flink scala shell module directly, instead we
customized the flink scala shell. So we are still interested in scala shell
module, for us if no one want to maintain scala shell, it would be better
to have it as flink 3rd party library, maybe in flink-packages.org
Martijn Visser <ma...@ververica.com> 于2021年9月16日周四 下午7:21写道：
> Hi everyone,
>
> As was discussed quite a while ago, the community has planned to drop
> support for Scala 2.11 [1]. I'm proposing to also drop the Scala Shell,
> which was briefly discussed in the email thread for dropping Scala 2.11
> [2].
>
> The Scala Shell doesn't work on Scala 2.12 [3] and there hasn't been much
> traction to get this working and it looks like the Flink community /
> committers don't want to maintain it anymore. Alternatively, if there's
> still someone interested in the Scala Shell, it could also be moved to a
> 3rd party repository. Removing the Scala Shell would/could help in getting
> Scala 2.11 dropped quicker.
>
> Let me know your thoughts.
>
> Best regards,
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20845
> [2]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ra817c5b54e3de48d80e5b4e0ae67941d387ee25cf9779f5ae37d0486%40%3Cdev.flink.apache.org%3E
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10911
>
>
> Martijn Visser | Product Manager
>
> martijn@ververica.com
>
> <https://www.ververica.com/>
>
>
> Follow us @VervericaData
>
> --
>
> Join Flink Forward <https://flink-forward.org/> - The Apache Flink
> Conference
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