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Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager - Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Ivan Rako <ir...@srce.hr>.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 03:53:01PM -0400, Sanders, Arbin D wrote:
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Hello there,
at our University computing centre we have 3 VMware ESXi 4.1 hosts. Each
host has 6 quad-core CPUs (alltogether 24 cores) and 256 GB RAM. Each VM
has 2 GB and 1 vCPU. We have made several stress tests (each VM with
Bonnie++) and we have successfully started 100 VMs per one host.
Best regards,
Ivan Rako
University Computing Centre
University of Zagreb, Croatia
--
You only live once, and if you play it right, once is all you need.
Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>.
This link may be helpful
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2000935
On May 24, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Alexander Patterson <al...@csueastbay.edu> wrote:
> I'm not sure from what I have been reading, might want to contact your
> VMware Rep and see what they can do if you plan on upgrading to 5.
>
> WIth ESXI 4.1
>
> Infrastructure limitations
> Some limitations in ESX Server 4 may constrain the design of data centers:
> Guest system maximum RAM: 255 GB
> Host system maximum RAM: 1 TB[
> Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
> Number of Primary Nodes in ESX Cluster high availability: 5
> Number of hosts in a Distributed Resource Scheduler cluster: 32
> Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 8
> Maximum number of processors per host: 160
> Maximum number of cores per processor: 12
> Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 320
> VMFS-3 limits files to 262,144 (218) blocks, which translates to 256
> GB for 1 MB block sizes (the default) or up to 2 TB for 8 MB block
> sizes.However, on a VMFS Boot drive, it is usually very difficult to
> use anything other than 1 MB Block size
>
> With ESXI 5 there has been some changes to these limits
> Guest system maximum RAM: 1 TB
> Host system maximum RAM: 2 TB
> Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
> Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 32
> Maximum number of processors per host: 160
> Maximum number of cores per processor: 25
> Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 512
> VMFS-3 is supported and has the same limits as before
> VMFS-5 however has a max volume size of 64 TB and a max file size of 2
> TB - 512 B
> How much vRAM does a VMware vSphere Hypervisor license provide?
> vSphere Hypervisor license provides a vRAM entitlement of 32GB per
> server, regardless of the number of physical processors. vSphere
> Hypervisor can be used on servers with maximum physical RAM capacity
> of 32GB.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>> Alexander,
>>
>> What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? Could I get more than 20 VMs?
>>
>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>
>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>> North Carolina Central University
>> 712 Cecil Street
>> Suite 3014
>> Durham, NC 27707
>> 919.530.6307
>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>
>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patterson@csueastbay.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
>> The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x version had no such memory limits.
>> VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with the upcoming version.
>>
>> Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
>>
>> We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
>>
>> More info here
>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>>>
>>> North Carolina Central University
>>>
>>> 712 Cecil Street
>>>
>>> Suite 3014
>>>
>>> Durham, NC 27707
>>>
>>> 919.530.6307
>>>
>>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is some info:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>>>
>>> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dmitri Chebotarov
>>>
>>> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>>>
>>> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
>>> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>>>
>>> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>>>
>>> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>>>
>>> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Young Hyun Oh
>>> IBM Tivoli
>>>
>>> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the
>>> number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources
>>> (CPU, RAM
>>>
>>> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
>>> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>>> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
>>> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>>>
>>> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
>>> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
>>> As always, your mileage may vary.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Al Quiros
>>> Florida International University
>>>
>>>
>>> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
>>>>
>>> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
>>> <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>>>
>>> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>>>
>>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>>
>>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>>> North Carolina Central University
>>> 712 Cecil Street
>>> Suite 3014
>>> Durham, NC 27707
>>> 919.530.6307
>>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>>
>>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>>
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Alex Patterson
>> User Support Services
>> Operating System Analyst
>> California State University, East Bay
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
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>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Alex Patterson
> User Support Services
> Operating System Analyst
> California State University, East Bay
Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>.
This link may be helpful
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2000935
On May 24, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Alexander Patterson <al...@csueastbay.edu> wrote:
> I'm not sure from what I have been reading, might want to contact your
> VMware Rep and see what they can do if you plan on upgrading to 5.
>
> WIth ESXI 4.1
>
> Infrastructure limitations
> Some limitations in ESX Server 4 may constrain the design of data centers:
> Guest system maximum RAM: 255 GB
> Host system maximum RAM: 1 TB[
> Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
> Number of Primary Nodes in ESX Cluster high availability: 5
> Number of hosts in a Distributed Resource Scheduler cluster: 32
> Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 8
> Maximum number of processors per host: 160
> Maximum number of cores per processor: 12
> Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 320
> VMFS-3 limits files to 262,144 (218) blocks, which translates to 256
> GB for 1 MB block sizes (the default) or up to 2 TB for 8 MB block
> sizes.However, on a VMFS Boot drive, it is usually very difficult to
> use anything other than 1 MB Block size
>
> With ESXI 5 there has been some changes to these limits
> Guest system maximum RAM: 1 TB
> Host system maximum RAM: 2 TB
> Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
> Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 32
> Maximum number of processors per host: 160
> Maximum number of cores per processor: 25
> Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 512
> VMFS-3 is supported and has the same limits as before
> VMFS-5 however has a max volume size of 64 TB and a max file size of 2
> TB - 512 B
> How much vRAM does a VMware vSphere Hypervisor license provide?
> vSphere Hypervisor license provides a vRAM entitlement of 32GB per
> server, regardless of the number of physical processors. vSphere
> Hypervisor can be used on servers with maximum physical RAM capacity
> of 32GB.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>> Alexander,
>>
>> What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? Could I get more than 20 VMs?
>>
>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>
>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>> North Carolina Central University
>> 712 Cecil Street
>> Suite 3014
>> Durham, NC 27707
>> 919.530.6307
>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>
>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patterson@csueastbay.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
>> The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x version had no such memory limits.
>> VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with the upcoming version.
>>
>> Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
>>
>> We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
>>
>> More info here
>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
>>
>> -Alex
>>
>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>>>
>>> North Carolina Central University
>>>
>>> 712 Cecil Street
>>>
>>> Suite 3014
>>>
>>> Durham, NC 27707
>>>
>>> 919.530.6307
>>>
>>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
>>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is some info:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>>>
>>> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dmitri Chebotarov
>>>
>>> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>>>
>>> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
>>> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>>>
>>> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>>>
>>> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>>>
>>> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Young Hyun Oh
>>> IBM Tivoli
>>>
>>> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the
>>> number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources
>>> (CPU, RAM
>>>
>>> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
>>> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>>> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
>>> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>>>
>>> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
>>> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
>>> As always, your mileage may vary.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Al Quiros
>>> Florida International University
>>>
>>>
>>> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
>>>>
>>> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
>>> <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>>>
>>> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>>> "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>>>
>>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>>
>>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>>> North Carolina Central University
>>> 712 Cecil Street
>>> Suite 3014
>>> Durham, NC 27707
>>> 919.530.6307
>>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>>
>>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>>
>>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Alex Patterson
>> User Support Services
>> Operating System Analyst
>> California State University, East Bay
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com ______________________________________________________________________
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service.
>> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Alex Patterson
> User Support Services
> Operating System Analyst
> California State University, East Bay
Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Alexander Patterson <al...@csueastbay.edu>.
I'm not sure from what I have been reading, might want to contact your
VMware Rep and see what they can do if you plan on upgrading to 5.
WIth ESXI 4.1
Infrastructure limitations
Some limitations in ESX Server 4 may constrain the design of data centers:
Guest system maximum RAM: 255 GB
Host system maximum RAM: 1 TB[
Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
Number of Primary Nodes in ESX Cluster high availability: 5
Number of hosts in a Distributed Resource Scheduler cluster: 32
Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 8
Maximum number of processors per host: 160
Maximum number of cores per processor: 12
Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 320
VMFS-3 limits files to 262,144 (218) blocks, which translates to 256
GB for 1 MB block sizes (the default) or up to 2 TB for 8 MB block
sizes.However, on a VMFS Boot drive, it is usually very difficult to
use anything other than 1 MB Block size
With ESXI 5 there has been some changes to these limits
Guest system maximum RAM: 1 TB
Host system maximum RAM: 2 TB
Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 32
Maximum number of processors per host: 160
Maximum number of cores per processor: 25
Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 512
VMFS-3 is supported and has the same limits as before
VMFS-5 however has a max volume size of 64 TB and a max file size of 2
TB - 512 B
How much vRAM does a VMware vSphere Hypervisor license provide?
vSphere Hypervisor license provides a vRAM entitlement of 32GB per
server, regardless of the number of physical processors. vSphere
Hypervisor can be used on servers with maximum physical RAM capacity
of 32GB.
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
> Alexander,
>
> What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? Could I get more than 20 VMs?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager - Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patterson@csueastbay.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> Hello,
>
> ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
> The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x version had no such memory limits.
> VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with the upcoming version.
>
> Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
>
> We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
>
> More info here
> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
>
> -Alex
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>>
>>
>>
>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>
>>
>>
>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>>
>> North Carolina Central University
>>
>> 712 Cecil Street
>>
>> Suite 3014
>>
>> Durham, NC 27707
>>
>> 919.530.6307
>>
>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is some info:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>>
>> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>>
>>
>>
>> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dmitri Chebotarov
>>
>> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>>
>> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
>> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>>
>> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>>
>> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>>
>> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Young Hyun Oh
>> IBM Tivoli
>>
>> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the
>> number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources
>> (CPU, RAM
>>
>> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
>> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>> "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
>> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>>
>> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
>> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
>> As always, your mileage may vary.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Al Quiros
>> Florida International University
>>
>>
>> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
>> >
>> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
>> <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>>
>> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>> "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>>
>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>
>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>> North Carolina Central University
>> 712 Cecil Street
>> Suite 3014
>> Durham, NC 27707
>> 919.530.6307
>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Alexander Patterson <al...@csueastbay.edu>.
I'm not sure from what I have been reading, might want to contact your
VMware Rep and see what they can do if you plan on upgrading to 5.
WIth ESXI 4.1
Infrastructure limitations
Some limitations in ESX Server 4 may constrain the design of data centers:
Guest system maximum RAM: 255 GB
Host system maximum RAM: 1 TB[
Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
Number of Primary Nodes in ESX Cluster high availability: 5
Number of hosts in a Distributed Resource Scheduler cluster: 32
Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 8
Maximum number of processors per host: 160
Maximum number of cores per processor: 12
Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 320
VMFS-3 limits files to 262,144 (218) blocks, which translates to 256
GB for 1 MB block sizes (the default) or up to 2 TB for 8 MB block
sizes.However, on a VMFS Boot drive, it is usually very difficult to
use anything other than 1 MB Block size
With ESXI 5 there has been some changes to these limits
Guest system maximum RAM: 1 TB
Host system maximum RAM: 2 TB
Number of hosts in a high availability cluster: 32
Maximum number of processors per virtual machine: 32
Maximum number of processors per host: 160
Maximum number of cores per processor: 25
Maximum number of virtual machines per host: 512
VMFS-3 is supported and has the same limits as before
VMFS-5 however has a max volume size of 64 TB and a max file size of 2
TB - 512 B
How much vRAM does a VMware vSphere Hypervisor license provide?
vSphere Hypervisor license provides a vRAM entitlement of 32GB per
server, regardless of the number of physical processors. vSphere
Hypervisor can be used on servers with maximum physical RAM capacity
of 32GB.
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
> Alexander,
>
> What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? Could I get more than 20 VMs?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager - Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patterson@csueastbay.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> Hello,
>
> ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
> The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x version had no such memory limits.
> VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with the upcoming version.
>
> Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
>
> We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
>
> More info here
> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
>
> -Alex
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>>
>>
>>
>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>
>>
>>
>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>>
>> North Carolina Central University
>>
>> 712 Cecil Street
>>
>> Suite 3014
>>
>> Durham, NC 27707
>>
>> 919.530.6307
>>
>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>
>>
>>
>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>
>>
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
>> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is some info:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>>
>>
>>
>> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>>
>> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>>
>>
>>
>> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dmitri Chebotarov
>>
>> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>>
>> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
>> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>>
>> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>>
>> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>>
>> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Young Hyun Oh
>> IBM Tivoli
>>
>> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the
>> number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources
>> (CPU, RAM
>>
>> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
>> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>> "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
>> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>>
>> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
>> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
>> As always, your mileage may vary.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Al Quiros
>> Florida International University
>>
>>
>> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
>> >
>> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
>> <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>>
>> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
>> "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>>
>> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>>
>> Arbin Darren Sanders
>>
>> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>> North Carolina Central University
>> 712 Cecil Street
>> Suite 3014
>> Durham, NC 27707
>> 919.530.6307
>> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>>
>> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>>
>> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
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> Alex Patterson
> User Support Services
> Operating System Analyst
> California State University, East Bay
>
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California State University, East Bay
RE: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by "Sanders, Arbin D" <as...@NCCU.EDU>.
Alexander,
What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? Could I get more than 20 VMs?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager - Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patterson@csueastbay.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Hello,
ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x version had no such memory limits.
VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with the upcoming version.
Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
More info here
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
-Alex
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>
> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>
>
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
>
>
> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>
> North Carolina Central University
>
> 712 Cecil Street
>
> Suite 3014
>
> Durham, NC 27707
>
> 919.530.6307
>
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
>
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>
>
>
> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
>
> Here is some info:
>
>
>
> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>
>
>
> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>
>
>
> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>
> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>
>
>
> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
>
> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>
> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>
> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>
> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>
> Best regards,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Young Hyun Oh
> IBM Tivoli
>
> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the
> number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources
> (CPU, RAM
>
> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>
> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
> As always, your mileage may vary.
>
> Regards,
> Al Quiros
> Florida International University
>
>
> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
> >
> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
> <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>
> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
> All,
>
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager - Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
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RE: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by "Sanders, Arbin D" <as...@NCCU.EDU>.
Alexander,
What if I use the paid version of vSphere5? And I have 96 GB of memory? Could I get more than 20 VMs?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager - Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Patterson [mailto:alexander.patterson@csueastbay.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:17 PM
To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Hello,
ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x version had no such memory limits.
VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with the upcoming version.
Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each VM.
More info here
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
-Alex
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>
> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>
>
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
>
>
> IT Manager - Academic Computing
>
> North Carolina Central University
>
> 712 Cecil Street
>
> Suite 3014
>
> Durham, NC 27707
>
> 919.530.6307
>
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> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
>
> Here is some info:
>
>
>
> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>
>
>
> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>
>
>
> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>
> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>
>
>
> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
>
> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>
> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>
> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>
> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>
> Best regards,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Young Hyun Oh
> IBM Tivoli
>
> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the
> number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources
> (CPU, RAM
>
> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>
> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
> As always, your mileage may vary.
>
> Regards,
> Al Quiros
> Florida International University
>
>
> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
> >
> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
> <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>
> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
> All,
>
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager - Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Alexander Patterson <al...@csueastbay.edu>.
Hello,
ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x
version had no such memory limits.
VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with
the upcoming version.
Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of
ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each
VM.
More info here
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
-Alex
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>
> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>
>
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
>
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing
>
> North Carolina Central University
>
> 712 Cecil Street
>
> Suite 3014
>
> Durham, NC 27707
>
> 919.530.6307
>
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
>
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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>
>
>
> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
>
> Here is some info:
>
>
>
> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>
>
>
> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>
>
>
> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>
> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>
>
>
> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
>
> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>
> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>
> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>
> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>
> Best regards,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Young Hyun Oh
> IBM Tivoli
>
> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM
>
> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>, "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>
> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
> As always, your mileage may vary.
>
> Regards,
> Al Quiros
> Florida International University
>
>
> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
> >
> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>
> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
> All,
>
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Alexander Patterson <al...@csueastbay.edu>.
Hello,
ESXI 5 is limit by licenses with the amount of ram you can run on each machine.
The 8 GB vRAM limit is for the upcoming 5.0 free Hypervisor, the 4.x
version had no such memory limits.
VM makes you pay now if you want to use X amount of ram per host with
the upcoming version.
Making 4.1 I Free Version a much more attractive option to go with
We have each of our blades running ESXI 4.1 with 16 Cores and 48 GB of
ram and we have 20 VM's per blade but we give 1.5 GB of ram to each
VM.
More info here
http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1014006
-Alex
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Sanders, Arbin D <as...@nccu.edu> wrote:
>
> I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
>
>
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
>
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing
>
> North Carolina Central University
>
> 712 Cecil Street
>
> Suite 3014
>
> Durham, NC 27707
>
> 919.530.6307
>
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
>
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system.
>
>
>
> From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
> To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
>
> Here is some info:
>
>
>
> http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
>
>
>
> This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
>
>
>
> There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
>
> I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
>
>
>
> What hypervisor do use for VCL?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
>
> Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
>
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175
>
> Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
>
> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>
> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>
> Best regards,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Young Hyun Oh
> IBM Tivoli
>
> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM
>
> From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>, "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>
> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
> As always, your mileage may vary.
>
> Regards,
> Al Quiros
> Florida International University
>
>
> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU
> >
> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
>
> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
> All,
>
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
> For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
>
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RE: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by "Sanders, Arbin D" <as...@NCCU.EDU>.
I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
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From: Dmitri Chebotarov [mailto:dchebota@gmu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:01 PM
To: vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Here is some info:
http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
What hypervisor do use for VCL?
Thanks.
--
Thank you,
Dmitri Chebotarov
Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175
Fax: (703) 993-3404
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
Best regards,
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Young Hyun Oh
IBM Tivoli
[cid:1__=08BBF09BDFC124708f9e8a93df938@us.ibm.com]Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM
From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>>
To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>, "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>,
Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
________________________________
Hello,
As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Al Quiros
Florida International University
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>>
Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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RE: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by "Sanders, Arbin D" <as...@NCCU.EDU>.
I am planning on using a free version of vSphere 5 depending on the how many VMs I can get. I would like to get 50 VMs per host.
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
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Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Here is some info:
http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
What hypervisor do use for VCL?
Thanks.
--
Thank you,
Dmitri Chebotarov
Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175
Fax: (703) 993-3404
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
Best regards,
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Young Hyun Oh
IBM Tivoli
[cid:1__=08BBF09BDFC124708f9e8a93df938@us.ibm.com]Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM
From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>>
To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>, "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>,
Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
________________________________
Hello,
As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Al Quiros
Florida International University
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>>
Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
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Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>.
Here is some info:
http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
What hypervisor do use for VCL?
Thanks.
--
Thank you,
Dmitri Chebotarov
Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175
Fax: (703) 993-3404
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>
> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>
> Best regards,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Young Hyun Oh
> IBM Tivoli
>
> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM
>
> From: Evelio Quiros <evquir@fiu.edu (mailto:evquir@fiu.edu)>
> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)" <vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)>, "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)'" <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)>,
> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>
> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
> As always, your mileage may vary.
>
> Regards,
> Al Quiros
> Florida International University
>
>
> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU (mailto:asanders@NCCU.EDU)>
> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)" <vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)'" <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)'" <vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)>
> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> All,
>
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>.
Here is some info:
http://myvirtualcloud.net/?p=1155
This is for VMware View which could be approximated to VCL.
There is also limits per VMFS datastore (if you not using NFS).
I have seen different recommendations for VM number per ESXi host per shared VMFS - VMWare recommends 16 VMs per Host for shared VMFS for VMFS-v3.
What hypervisor do use for VCL?
Thanks.
--
Thank you,
Dmitri Chebotarov
Virtual Computing Lab Systems Engineer, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175
Fax: (703) 993-3404
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 at 11:42 , Young h Oh wrote:
> Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with 2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with 64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to decide the max number of VMs per host.
>
> In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
>
> Best regards,
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Young Hyun Oh
> IBM Tivoli
>
> Evelio Quiros ---05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM---Hello, As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM
>
> From: Evelio Quiros <evquir@fiu.edu (mailto:evquir@fiu.edu)>
> To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)" <vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)>, "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)'" <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)>,
> Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
> As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
>
> For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
> On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
> As always, your mileage may vary.
>
> Regards,
> Al Quiros
> Florida International University
>
>
> From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <asanders@NCCU.EDU (mailto:asanders@NCCU.EDU)>
> Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)" <vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)>
> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
> To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)'" <vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org)>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)'" <vcl-user@incubator.apache.org (mailto:vcl-user@incubator.apache.org)>
> Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
>
> All,
>
> What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
>
> Arbin Darren Sanders
>
> IT Manager – Academic Computing
> North Carolina Central University
> 712 Cecil Street
> Suite 3014
> Durham, NC 27707
> 919.530.6307
> 919.530.5097 (Fax)
>
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Young h Oh <oh...@us.ibm.com>.
Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the
computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with
2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with
64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable
facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also
consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are
more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to
decide the max number of VMs per host.
In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM
on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP
VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run
up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
Best regards,
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Young Hyun Oh
IBM Tivoli
From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
<vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
"'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'"
<vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Hello,
As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available
resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other
admins, please share your opinions.
For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically
allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP
machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor
the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is
over-worked.
On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not
place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important
thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many
VM per host by experience.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Al Quiros
Florida International University
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>
Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>, "
'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to
the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Young h Oh <oh...@us.ibm.com>.
Normally, you can calculate the average number of VMs depends on the
computing power (CPU). For example, 1 physical core can supports 2 VMs with
2 GB RAM. If you have 2 CPUs with 16 cores, then you might run 32VMs with
64GB RAM. However, the max number of VMs per host depends on variable
facts as Al Quiros mentioned, In addition to Al's comments, you might also
consider the application you want to run on guest VMs. If applications are
more computation intensive, the number of CPUs would be important fact to
decide the max number of VMs per host.
In our environment, we don't use VMware but running RHEL 6 x64 with KVM
on IBM blade hosts with 16 CPUs and 24GB RAM. We run average 15 Windows XP
VMs with 1GB memory without much performance overhead. However, we can run
up to 22 VMs but the performance was not good.
Best regards,
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Young Hyun Oh
IBM Tivoli
From: Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>
To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org"
<vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
"'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'"
<vc...@incubator.apache.org>,
Date: 05/24/2012 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Hello,
As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available
resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other
admins, please share your opinions.
For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically
allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP
machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor
the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is
over-worked.
On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not
place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important
thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many
VM per host by experience.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Al Quiros
Florida International University
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>
Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>, "
'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to
the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
For the Latest ITS Updates and Tips Join Us Online
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>.
Hello,
As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Al Quiros
Florida International University
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>>
Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>.
Hello,
As you know, the number of Virtual Machines per host depends on available resources (CPU, RAM, Disk), as well as the demands of the image.
As a general guide, I have found the following to be reasonable. Other admins, please share your opinions.
For a single VM host with 12 virtual CPU and 98 GB RAM, I typically allocate 25 Windows VM. When necessary, I have raised it to 32 Windows XP machines. For linux based images, I have used 50 VM without issues. Monitor the performance tab on your vSphere client to see if the host is over-worked.
On Virtual Machines that require higher performance, I usually will not place them on a host with more than 10 working VM. But the most important thing is to watch the performance closely. You will get a feel for how many VM per host by experience.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Regards,
Al Quiros
Florida International University
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>>
Reply-To: "vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
To: "'vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>, "'vcl-user@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>'" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
IT Manager – Academic Computing
North Carolina Central University
712 Cecil Street
Suite 3014
Durham, NC 27707
919.530.6307
919.530.5097 (Fax)
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Re: Max Number of VMs per Host
Posted by "Creech, David" <CR...@ecu.edu>.
We are using ESXi 4.1 as our vmhost and we are limited to about 4 VM's per host. This is mainly due to the fact that our vm's are running on local disks (not network storage) so we limit it to 4 to try and minimize the I/O on the disks (for performance).
Thanks!
David Creech
Technology Support Specialist
Computer Lab Coordinator
ITCS - Academic Computing
Austin Building - 102
East Carolina University
252-328-9544
creechd@ecu.edu<x-...@ecu.edu>
From: <Sanders>, Arbin D <as...@NCCU.EDU>>
Reply-To: "vcl-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>" <vc...@incubator.apache.org>>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:53 PM
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Subject: Max Number of VMs per Host
All,
What is the number of VMs do you all run per VMware host? Is it limited to the RAM limitation for vSphere 5? How many purchase vSphere licenses?
Arbin Darren Sanders
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