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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> on 2014/02/11 00:58:37 UTC
A new release is desirable
Hi all
I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two three
months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6 months.
What can we release next? Some suggestions:
- rdf.core
- platform.content
- storage (virtuoso)
- ...
WDYT?
Regards
Hasan
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi Reto, all
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> Hi Hasan, all,
>
> So today I did quite some changes that are think are good to have in the
> release.
> - Some fixes around System graph and documentation
> - Some changes so that our bundles have less dependencies (CLEREZZA-844 is
> still open)
> - Resolved the SKOS08/04 issue as suggested by Rupert
>
> Thanks for all of these.
> Now for the release:
>
> One option would be to release all. This would mean all bundles have a
> post-incubating release. For this we probably would want to remove the
> obsolete ext.org.apache.jena[.tdb] projects. A downside of this approach is
> that the new version (of the tdb based launcher) will have some features
> missing that were there in the incubating version (most notably the
> authentication methods other than basic).
>
I think it's better to keep those features available for the moment.
So I would not opt for this option.
>
> Another approach is to release what's in the bundlelists. The bundlelists
> are all in the provisioning folder[1]. We could release them all together,
> the feature-project alongside with all their dependency. This should be
> self-contained (an exception might be some dependency with scope test.
>
> We could also release the bundlelists/features one by one or in batches.
> For example in the following order:
>
> 0) parent (yes, that's no a feature)
> 1) felixosgi
> 2) felixweb
> 3) rdf
> 4) shell (optionally with launchers/shell-launcher)
> 5) platform.graphnodeprovider
> 6) jaxrs-whiteboard *
> 7) typerendering (optionally with launchers/typerendering-launcher)
> 8) typehandlerspace
> 9) rdf.web
> 10) platform.content (optionally with launchers/linked-data-launcher and/or
> full-launcher)
>
I agree with this approach. I tend to release them in batches rather than
all together.
>
> * I've just noticed that this relied on some Stanbol 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT for the
> Jersey 2.0 Jax-RS support. So we should either get stanbol to release those
> bundles (which might be a bit hard as the 0.12 release is still on the way,
> and a full 1.0.0 stanbol would in turn require clerezza to release some
> bundles) or provide replacement for those bundles (easy and justified as
> clerezza doesn't need the whole stanbol web support but only JAX-RS
> whiteboard).
>
> Ok, so to summarize:all the information on what can be release together
> should be there,if it's not clear then I should fix this.
>
> My proposal: We release feature by feature. Somebody other than me
> coordinates the release. (1 and 2 are a very easy staring point as they
> have no clerezza dependencies). I take care about the * so once we are at 6
> things are ready.
>
> WDYT?
>
@all: I think we don't need to vote on this approach. Otherwise please
shout.
Ok. I can take care of 0, 1, 2 and 3. I would need your support if there
are problems.
Please volunteer to help here taking care of other features.
Cheers
Hasan
>
> Reto
>
> 1.
>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=clerezza.git;a=tree;f=provisioning;h=0dee59767bed0958c900f38f5c2af27714de235b;hb=HEAD
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Reto, all
> >
> > @Reto: Could you please organize the releases? I think you know the best
> > what bundles, features, partialbundlelists which are ready.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Hasan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Part of the motivation of creating the bundlelits/features was also to
> > see
> > > the dependencies between the bundles more clearly and thus facilitate
> > > releases. I thought the bundlelists could also be the basis for making
> a
> > > more hierarchical project structure. The creation of bundlelists showed
> > > that the shell has a lot of dependencies that should be avoided for
> > keeping
> > > it portable (CLEREZZA-844). It has also shown that because of
> > > GraphNodeProvider in not split from its implementation (CLEREZZA-838)
> > > TypeRendering and TypeHandlerSpace have quite some avoidable platform
> > > dependencies.
> > >
> > > The creation of bundlelists is not yet finished. Nevertheless the ones
> > that
> > > are there some show some sets of of bundles that can be released
> > together.
> > > The maven project description states on which other bundlelists a
> > > bundlelist depends on.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Reto
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Actually I had it on my todo list for quite some time. But haven't
> > found
> > > > yet the time to do so.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Minto
> > > >
> > > > Enrico Daga schreef op 11-2-2014 10:48:
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Enrico
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11 February 2014 08:49, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> +1
> > > > >>
> > > > >> also adds the bundlelists.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> > > > >> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> +1
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Tommaso
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi all
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two
> > > three
> > > > >>>> months after we have made some valuable contributions in the
> past
> > 6
> > > > >>> months.
> > > > >>>> What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> > > > >>>> - rdf.core
> > > > >>>> - platform.content
> > > > >>>> - storage (virtuoso)
> > > > >>>> - ...
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> WDYT?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Regards
> > > > >>>> Hasan
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
> > > > Software innovator / renovator
> > > > Xup BV
> > > >
> > > > Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com>.
Hi Hasan, all,
So today I did quite some changes that are think are good to have in the
release.
- Some fixes around System graph and documentation
- Some changes so that our bundles have less dependencies (CLEREZZA-844 is
still open)
- Resolved the SKOS08/04 issue as suggested by Rupert
Now for the release:
One option would be to release all. This would mean all bundles have a
post-incubating release. For this we probably would want to remove the
obsolete ext.org.apache.jena[.tdb] projects. A downside of this approach is
that the new version (of the tdb based launcher) will have some features
missing that were there in the incubating version (most notably the
authentication methods other than basic).
Another approach is to release what's in the bundlelists. The bundlelists
are all in the provisioning folder[1]. We could release them all together,
the feature-project alongside with all their dependency. This should be
self-contained (an exception might be some dependency with scope test.
We could also release the bundlelists/features one by one or in batches.
For example in the following order:
0) parent (yes, that's no a feature)
1) felixosgi
2) felixweb
3) rdf
4) shell (optionally with launchers/shell-launcher)
5) platform.graphnodeprovider
6) jaxrs-whiteboard *
7) typerendering (optionally with launchers/typerendering-launcher)
8) typehandlerspace
9) rdf.web
10) platform.content (optionally with launchers/linked-data-launcher and/or
full-launcher)
* I've just noticed that this relied on some Stanbol 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT for the
Jersey 2.0 Jax-RS support. So we should either get stanbol to release those
bundles (which might be a bit hard as the 0.12 release is still on the way,
and a full 1.0.0 stanbol would in turn require clerezza to release some
bundles) or provide replacement for those bundles (easy and justified as
clerezza doesn't need the whole stanbol web support but only JAX-RS
whiteboard).
Ok, so to summarize:all the information on what can be release together
should be there,if it's not clear then I should fix this.
My proposal: We release feature by feature. Somebody other than me
coordinates the release. (1 and 2 are a very easy staring point as they
have no clerezza dependencies). I take care about the * so once we are at 6
things are ready.
WDYT?
Reto
1.
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=clerezza.git;a=tree;f=provisioning;h=0dee59767bed0958c900f38f5c2af27714de235b;hb=HEAD
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> Hi Reto, all
>
> @Reto: Could you please organize the releases? I think you know the best
> what bundles, features, partialbundlelists which are ready.
>
> Cheers
> Hasan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
>
> > Part of the motivation of creating the bundlelits/features was also to
> see
> > the dependencies between the bundles more clearly and thus facilitate
> > releases. I thought the bundlelists could also be the basis for making a
> > more hierarchical project structure. The creation of bundlelists showed
> > that the shell has a lot of dependencies that should be avoided for
> keeping
> > it portable (CLEREZZA-844). It has also shown that because of
> > GraphNodeProvider in not split from its implementation (CLEREZZA-838)
> > TypeRendering and TypeHandlerSpace have quite some avoidable platform
> > dependencies.
> >
> > The creation of bundlelists is not yet finished. Nevertheless the ones
> that
> > are there some show some sets of of bundles that can be released
> together.
> > The maven project description states on which other bundlelists a
> > bundlelist depends on.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Reto
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Actually I had it on my todo list for quite some time. But haven't
> found
> > > yet the time to do so.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Minto
> > >
> > > Enrico Daga schreef op 11-2-2014 10:48:
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Enrico
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11 February 2014 08:49, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1
> > > >>
> > > >> also adds the bundlelists.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> > > >> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tommaso
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi all
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two
> > three
> > > >>>> months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past
> 6
> > > >>> months.
> > > >>>> What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> > > >>>> - rdf.core
> > > >>>> - platform.content
> > > >>>> - storage (virtuoso)
> > > >>>> - ...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> WDYT?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Regards
> > > >>>> Hasan
> > > >>>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
> > > Software innovator / renovator
> > > Xup BV
> > >
> > > Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi Reto, all
@Reto: Could you please organize the releases? I think you know the best
what bundles, features, partialbundlelists which are ready.
Cheers
Hasan
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> Part of the motivation of creating the bundlelits/features was also to see
> the dependencies between the bundles more clearly and thus facilitate
> releases. I thought the bundlelists could also be the basis for making a
> more hierarchical project structure. The creation of bundlelists showed
> that the shell has a lot of dependencies that should be avoided for keeping
> it portable (CLEREZZA-844). It has also shown that because of
> GraphNodeProvider in not split from its implementation (CLEREZZA-838)
> TypeRendering and TypeHandlerSpace have quite some avoidable platform
> dependencies.
>
> The creation of bundlelists is not yet finished. Nevertheless the ones that
> are there some show some sets of of bundles that can be released together.
> The maven project description states on which other bundlelists a
> bundlelist depends on.
>
> Cheers,
> Reto
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Actually I had it on my todo list for quite some time. But haven't found
> > yet the time to do so.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Minto
> >
> > Enrico Daga schreef op 11-2-2014 10:48:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11 February 2014 08:49, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> also adds the bundlelists.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> > >> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> +1
> > >>>
> > >>> Tommaso
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi all
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two
> three
> > >>>> months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6
> > >>> months.
> > >>>> What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> > >>>> - rdf.core
> > >>>> - platform.content
> > >>>> - storage (virtuoso)
> > >>>> - ...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WDYT?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards
> > >>>> Hasan
> > >>>>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
> > Software innovator / renovator
> > Xup BV
> >
> > Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
> >
> >
>
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com>.
Part of the motivation of creating the bundlelits/features was also to see
the dependencies between the bundles more clearly and thus facilitate
releases. I thought the bundlelists could also be the basis for making a
more hierarchical project structure. The creation of bundlelists showed
that the shell has a lot of dependencies that should be avoided for keeping
it portable (CLEREZZA-844). It has also shown that because of
GraphNodeProvider in not split from its implementation (CLEREZZA-838)
TypeRendering and TypeHandlerSpace have quite some avoidable platform
dependencies.
The creation of bundlelists is not yet finished. Nevertheless the ones that
are there some show some sets of of bundles that can be released together.
The maven project description states on which other bundlelists a
bundlelist depends on.
Cheers,
Reto
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl> wrote:
> +1
>
> Actually I had it on my todo list for quite some time. But haven't found
> yet the time to do so.
>
> Regards,
>
> Minto
>
> Enrico Daga schreef op 11-2-2014 10:48:
> > +1
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Enrico
> >
> >
> > On 11 February 2014 08:49, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> also adds the bundlelists.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> >> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Tommaso
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two three
> >>>> months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6
> >>> months.
> >>>> What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> >>>> - rdf.core
> >>>> - platform.content
> >>>> - storage (virtuoso)
> >>>> - ...
> >>>>
> >>>> WDYT?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Hasan
> >>>>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
> Software innovator / renovator
> Xup BV
>
> Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
>
>
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl>.
+1
Actually I had it on my todo list for quite some time. But haven't found
yet the time to do so.
Regards,
Minto
Enrico Daga schreef op 11-2-2014 10:48:
> +1
>
> Cheers,
> Enrico
>
>
> On 11 February 2014 08:49, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> also adds the bundlelists.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Tommaso
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two three
>>>> months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6
>>> months.
>>>> What can we release next? Some suggestions:
>>>> - rdf.core
>>>> - platform.content
>>>> - storage (virtuoso)
>>>> - ...
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Hasan
>>>>
>
>
--
ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
Software innovator / renovator
Xup BV
Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Enrico Daga <en...@gmail.com>.
+1
Cheers,
Enrico
On 11 February 2014 08:49, Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> also adds the bundlelists.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Tommaso
> >
> >
> > 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
> >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two three
> > > months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6
> > months.
> > > What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> > > - rdf.core
> > > - platform.content
> > > - storage (virtuoso)
> > > - ...
> > >
> > > WDYT?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Hasan
> > >
> >
>
--
Enrico Daga
--
http://www.enridaga.net
skype: enri-pan
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Reto Gmür <re...@wymiwyg.com>.
+1
also adds the bundlelists.
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> +1
>
> Tommaso
>
>
> 2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two three
> > months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6
> months.
> > What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> > - rdf.core
> > - platform.content
> > - storage (virtuoso)
> > - ...
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Regards
> > Hasan
> >
>
Re: A new release is desirable
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
+1
Tommaso
2014-02-11 0:58 GMT+01:00 Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>:
> Hi all
>
> I think it's high time to prepare a new release in the next two three
> months after we have made some valuable contributions in the past 6 months.
> What can we release next? Some suggestions:
> - rdf.core
> - platform.content
> - storage (virtuoso)
> - ...
>
> WDYT?
>
> Regards
> Hasan
>