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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> on 2005/11/18 20:52:19 UTC
JAX-WS/JBI (Re: [VOTE] sponsor ActiveMQ & ServiceMix to become sub-projects of Geronimo)
James,
Could we expect any help, in any form, in any of the WS-* projects? i
guess not, from your email it is very clear that the involvement you
think about would be just a drop-in replacement for other things and
not much more. I thought for a few moments that since there is SO much
WS-* focus in JBI, there could be lots of areas for cooperation.
Sigh!! We'll live. If you think of something else, you know where to
reach us.
Team,
FYI, As i mentioned previously
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel/18601) for any
future J2EE implementation of Geronimo JAX-WS is needed and we (WS
folks) need help with its implementation.
thanks,
dims
On 11/18/05, James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 18 Nov 2005, at 17:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way
> >
> > ServiceMix folks have not shown much interest in any WS projects at
> > Apache though I have seen their interest in so many non-Apache WS
> > projects including Celtix and JAX-WS RI (example see
> > http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/celtix-dev/2005-08/msg00112.html).
>
> We're waiting patiently for JAX-WS support in Axis before we can use
> it along with the other 2 JAX-WS implementations. Using SAAJ was a no
> brainer for Axis 1 and didn't require any email traffic since it all
> just worked.
>
> > I
> > don't really know why Axis and Synapse are mentioned on the proposal.
>
> We've already said before on the incubator list that we'd like to add
> JBI support to Synapse and ensure that we can deploy Synapse inside
> ServiceMix as a JBI component. Also when there's a working JAX-WS
> provider in Axis we'll give it a good going over in ServiceMix as
> well. That's just for starters; who knows what other collaboration
> there might be with other WS projects in the future.
>
>
> > Anyway, Best of luck with incubation.
>
Re: JAX-WS/JBI (Re: [VOTE] sponsor ActiveMQ & ServiceMix to become sub-projects of Geronimo)
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, i just get frustrated sometimes with lack of help. There's so
much to do and so little time. I know we have to plan *NOW* for JAXB
2.0 and JAX-WS to be able to get to the next rev of J2EE soon. I hope
some folks here can jump in to WS land and help implement them. When i
saw how closely some folks (not just James) were working with other
non-Apache WS projects it's a bit demoralizing as well to say the
least. Now that i have gotten it off my chest i feel better. Sorry
again for the rash tone.
thanks,
dims
On 11/18/05, Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com> wrote:
> Wow, it sounds like there is something very personal between you
> two. You are both great guys and have a reputation for being very
> reasonable. Can you guys maybe get together on the phone and work it
> out?
>
> I hope we can maintain the friendly tone we have been having lately
> on this mailing list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -dain
>
> On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > James,
> > Could we expect any help, in any form, in any of the WS-* projects? i
> > guess not, from your email it is very clear that the involvement you
> > think about would be just a drop-in replacement for other things and
> > not much more. I thought for a few moments that since there is SO much
> > WS-* focus in JBI, there could be lots of areas for cooperation.
> > Sigh!! We'll live. If you think of something else, you know where to
> > reach us.
> >
> > Team,
> > FYI, As i mentioned previously
> > (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel/18601) for any
> > future J2EE implementation of Geronimo JAX-WS is needed and we (WS
> > folks) need help with its implementation.
> >
> > thanks,
> > dims
> >
> > On 11/18/05, James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 18 Nov 2005, at 17:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >>> [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way
> >>>
> >>> ServiceMix folks have not shown much interest in any WS projects at
> >>> Apache though I have seen their interest in so many non-Apache WS
> >>> projects including Celtix and JAX-WS RI (example see
> >>> http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/celtix-dev/2005-08/msg00112.html).
> >>
> >> We're waiting patiently for JAX-WS support in Axis before we can use
> >> it along with the other 2 JAX-WS implementations. Using SAAJ was a no
> >> brainer for Axis 1 and didn't require any email traffic since it all
> >> just worked.
> >>
> >>> I
> >>> don't really know why Axis and Synapse are mentioned on the
> >>> proposal.
> >>
> >> We've already said before on the incubator list that we'd like to add
> >> JBI support to Synapse and ensure that we can deploy Synapse inside
> >> ServiceMix as a JBI component. Also when there's a working JAX-WS
> >> provider in Axis we'll give it a good going over in ServiceMix as
> >> well. That's just for starters; who knows what other collaboration
> >> there might be with other WS projects in the future.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Anyway, Best of luck with incubation.
> >>
>
>
--
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
Re: JAX-WS/JBI (Re: [VOTE] sponsor ActiveMQ & ServiceMix to become sub-projects of Geronimo)
Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Wow, it sounds like there is something very personal between you
two. You are both great guys and have a reputation for being very
reasonable. Can you guys maybe get together on the phone and work it
out?
I hope we can maintain the friendly tone we have been having lately
on this mailing list.
Thanks,
-dain
On Nov 18, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> James,
> Could we expect any help, in any form, in any of the WS-* projects? i
> guess not, from your email it is very clear that the involvement you
> think about would be just a drop-in replacement for other things and
> not much more. I thought for a few moments that since there is SO much
> WS-* focus in JBI, there could be lots of areas for cooperation.
> Sigh!! We'll live. If you think of something else, you know where to
> reach us.
>
> Team,
> FYI, As i mentioned previously
> (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.geronimo.devel/18601) for any
> future J2EE implementation of Geronimo JAX-WS is needed and we (WS
> folks) need help with its implementation.
>
> thanks,
> dims
>
> On 11/18/05, James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 18 Nov 2005, at 17:50, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>> [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way
>>>
>>> ServiceMix folks have not shown much interest in any WS projects at
>>> Apache though I have seen their interest in so many non-Apache WS
>>> projects including Celtix and JAX-WS RI (example see
>>> http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/celtix-dev/2005-08/msg00112.html).
>>
>> We're waiting patiently for JAX-WS support in Axis before we can use
>> it along with the other 2 JAX-WS implementations. Using SAAJ was a no
>> brainer for Axis 1 and didn't require any email traffic since it all
>> just worked.
>>
>>> I
>>> don't really know why Axis and Synapse are mentioned on the
>>> proposal.
>>
>> We've already said before on the incubator list that we'd like to add
>> JBI support to Synapse and ensure that we can deploy Synapse inside
>> ServiceMix as a JBI component. Also when there's a working JAX-WS
>> provider in Axis we'll give it a good going over in ServiceMix as
>> well. That's just for starters; who knows what other collaboration
>> there might be with other WS projects in the future.
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, Best of luck with incubation.
>>