Performance and comparisons

[Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com>]

Hi all,
Is there any performance data or performance comparisons available for ODE.

I would also like to know how ODE will be compared against other
available BPEL engines. I mean what are the most compelling features
of ODE which will rank it higher than the other engines..

thanks,
Thilina

PS: Hope nobody will start a flame war. I just need the date :).
-- 
Thilina Gunarathne  - http://thilinag.blogspot.com

Re: Performance and comparisons

[Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>]

More recently, I've reached 200+ msgs/second on my laptop (dual-core) with
the Ode 1.1 branch.  I'm expecting the trunk (with all the
thread/transaction refactoring) to put us in overdrive once it's
stabilized.   But don't believe us, go benchmark it!  :)

alex

On 9/14/07, Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> To add on Paul's reply, Alex had done some performance measurements some
> time ago. See:
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Ode-Performance%3A-Round-I-tf3880525.html#a10997631
>
> We would probably fare better now as several of the improvements Alex
> mentions have been implemented. Which doesn't mean there's not more to do,
> there's actually still quite a bit of possible optimizations. An important
> thing to note on that side is that ODE support both persistent and in
> memory
> processes living at the same time within the same engine. So you can where
> you want to be fast and where you want to be reliable.
>
> Other than that, I believe the pi-calculus architecture is better. From a
> user standpoint you don't directly care much, but it has important
> implications on scalability and maintenance that you benefit from.
>
> Finally and most crucial: all committers are nice guys :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Matthieu
>
> On 9/14/07, Paul Brown <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Thilina --
> >
> > Well, albeit that I'm certainly biased, here are a few things that
> > folks won't argue with:
> >
> > - ODE is the only BPEL engine with a business-friendly,
> > extender-friendly license.  There are other engines, who shall remain
> > nameless, that are available under a GPL or LGPL license.
> >
> > - ODE has a diverse and open community that is neither controlled nor
> > dominated by any commercial entity.
> >
> > - ODE provides a good level of flexibility for integration into other
> > middleware (AXIS2, ServiceMix, TBD).
> >
> > - Since the olden days, ODE (since before it was ODE) has won customer
> > "bake-off" competitions against other BPEL engines.  Typically, ODE
> > was at least even on speed (pretty constant constraint of throughput)
> > and better on ergonomics and compliance.
> >
> > -- Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/07, Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Is there any performance data or performance comparisons available for
> > ODE.
> > >
> > > I would also like to know how ODE will be compared against other
> > > available BPEL engines. I mean what are the most compelling features
> > > of ODE which will rank it higher than the other engines..
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Thilina
> > >
> > > PS: Hope nobody will start a flame war. I just need the date :).
> > > --
> > > Thilina Gunarathne  - http://thilinag.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > paulrbrown@gmail.com
> > http://mult.ifario.us/
> >
>

Re: Performance and comparisons

[Matthieu Riou <ma...@offthelip.org>]

Hi,

To add on Paul's reply, Alex had done some performance measurements some
time ago. See:

http://www.nabble.com/Ode-Performance%3A-Round-I-tf3880525.html#a10997631

We would probably fare better now as several of the improvements Alex
mentions have been implemented. Which doesn't mean there's not more to do,
there's actually still quite a bit of possible optimizations. An important
thing to note on that side is that ODE support both persistent and in memory
processes living at the same time within the same engine. So you can where
you want to be fast and where you want to be reliable.

Other than that, I believe the pi-calculus architecture is better. From a
user standpoint you don't directly care much, but it has important
implications on scalability and maintenance that you benefit from.

Finally and most crucial: all committers are nice guys :-)

Cheers,
Matthieu

On 9/14/07, Paul Brown <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Thilina --
>
> Well, albeit that I'm certainly biased, here are a few things that
> folks won't argue with:
>
> - ODE is the only BPEL engine with a business-friendly,
> extender-friendly license.  There are other engines, who shall remain
> nameless, that are available under a GPL or LGPL license.
>
> - ODE has a diverse and open community that is neither controlled nor
> dominated by any commercial entity.
>
> - ODE provides a good level of flexibility for integration into other
> middleware (AXIS2, ServiceMix, TBD).
>
> - Since the olden days, ODE (since before it was ODE) has won customer
> "bake-off" competitions against other BPEL engines.  Typically, ODE
> was at least even on speed (pretty constant constraint of throughput)
> and better on ergonomics and compliance.
>
> -- Paul
>
>
>
> On 9/14/07, Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Is there any performance data or performance comparisons available for
> ODE.
> >
> > I would also like to know how ODE will be compared against other
> > available BPEL engines. I mean what are the most compelling features
> > of ODE which will rank it higher than the other engines..
> >
> > thanks,
> > Thilina
> >
> > PS: Hope nobody will start a flame war. I just need the date :).
> > --
> > Thilina Gunarathne  - http://thilinag.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
> --
> paulrbrown@gmail.com
> http://mult.ifario.us/
>

Re: Performance and comparisons

[Paul Brown <pa...@gmail.com>]

Hi, Thilina --

Well, albeit that I'm certainly biased, here are a few things that
folks won't argue with:

- ODE is the only BPEL engine with a business-friendly,
extender-friendly license.  There are other engines, who shall remain
nameless, that are available under a GPL or LGPL license.

- ODE has a diverse and open community that is neither controlled nor
dominated by any commercial entity.

- ODE provides a good level of flexibility for integration into other
middleware (AXIS2, ServiceMix, TBD).

- Since the olden days, ODE (since before it was ODE) has won customer
"bake-off" competitions against other BPEL engines.  Typically, ODE
was at least even on speed (pretty constant constraint of throughput)
and better on ergonomics and compliance.

-- Paul



On 9/14/07, Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is there any performance data or performance comparisons available for ODE.
>
> I would also like to know how ODE will be compared against other
> available BPEL engines. I mean what are the most compelling features
> of ODE which will rank it higher than the other engines..
>
> thanks,
> Thilina
>
> PS: Hope nobody will start a flame war. I just need the date :).
> --
> Thilina Gunarathne  - http://thilinag.blogspot.com
>


-- 
paulrbrown@gmail.com
http://mult.ifario.us/