Re: Business Objects vs Data Objects [was Re: JXTemplates-what' s in a name?]

[Leon Widdershoven <qa...@dds.nl>]

I have no clue. Is there no application server which can deal with time 
stamped libraries? The
way dynamic generation in xsp works (not the implementation of which I 
know next to nothing,
but the fact that your classes are always up to date) is a very strong 
convenience feature.

If that could be extended to the application jar's (e.g. 
cocoon/WB-INF/lib, not tomcat/libs) in the
way the sitemap has a check-reload that would make it so much easier to 
develop web applications,
especially since development seems to shift away from xsp to flowscript, 
with the flowscript
acting as a controller and not containing the business logic.

Leon

Ralph Goers wrote:

>What presentation framework allows you to replace a jar without redeploying?
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>Ralph
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Leon Widdershoven [mailto:qaz@dds.nl] 
>Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 3:33 PM
>To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Business Objects vs Data Objects [was Re: JXTemplates-what' s
>in a name?]
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>Compared to a full distributed application container it probably is "just".
>In comparison with anything else it isn't.
>And restarting your cocoon when adding a jar (cause you updated a 
>feature, removed
>a bug, or added an application) will also not make larger sites very happy.
>
>Leon
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>Ralph Goers wrote:
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>>Antonio,
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>>People who say Cocoon is "just" a web publishing framework are nuts.  We
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>>very little flowscript and find it to be a very powerful presentation
>>framework. I saw a comparison of various frameworks a while ago and Cocoon
>>easily came out on top except that it had no built in support for Business
>>Delegates. I spent some time and implemented that myself and Cocoon is
>>working great so far.
>>
>>Ralph
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:agallardo@agssa.net] 
>>Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:09 AM
>>To: users@cocoon.apache.org
>>Subject: RE: Business Objects vs Data Objects [was Re: JXTemplates-what' s
>>in a name?]
>>BEAWARE: I am far to be a guru in this area.
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>>Currently, I found myself asking about the "viability" of using EJB for
>>the overall task in some applications. Recently, Ralph's posts, triggered
>>in my mind the idea of how will be the best approach to use J2EE (that
>>include EJB) with Cocoon. I read some articles about that too. And there
>>are diferent approach. Some articles tell you that Cocoon need to be used
>>just as a publishing framework while using J2EE. But I think: This was
>>before flow. But, now we have Flow and I don't like the idea of stripdown
>>Cocoon wings when I know how much it can do and help.... Of course this is
>>a very large discussion and a interesting one.
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