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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> on 2007/03/22 19:21:16 UTC
M4 or beta-1, that is the question
I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to
get some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting to
look at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this
month I'd like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
Thoughts?
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@laskowski.net.pl>.
On 3/24/07, Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The milestone naming is fine. But whatever we do, let's do it
> consistently in the future too. We are establishing a precedent here.
>
> 1) stay with milestones even when we are feature complete.
> 2) have milestones before we are feature complete and switch to beta
> when we are feature complete.
I'd say the 2nd option is what I like the most.
Jacek
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Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Prasad Kashyap <go...@gmail.com>.
The milestone naming is fine. But whatever we do, let's do it
consistently in the future too. We are establishing a precedent here.
1) stay with milestones even when we are feature complete.
2) have milestones before we are feature complete and switch to beta
when we are feature complete.
Any which way is fine as long as we consistently adopt the same naming
convention in the future too.
Cheers
Prasad
On 3/23/07, Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 22, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>
> > I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to
> > get some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting
> > to look at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this
> > month I'd like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
> >
> > So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
>
> Personally, I'd say we should stick with the milestone naming. No
> need to introduce a new naming convention.
>
> --kevan
>
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Anita Kulshreshtha <a_...@yahoo.com>.
On Mar 22, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to
> get some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting
> to look at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this
> month I'd like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
> So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
According to this definition (excerpt below) we should use M4:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=N0a&defl=en&q=define:Beta+version&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
Thanks
Anita
"Formally, it is a product in that is in its final stages of testing.
Often, especially with FOSS, a beta version of a product (or beta
product), will be made available to the public for general use and may
contain minor bugs. This is done so that the product can be tested on a
large-scale in the field, and allow people to start using new tools as
soon as possible."
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Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Mar 22, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to
> get some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting
> to look at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this
> month I'd like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
>
> So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
Personally, I'd say we should stick with the milestone naming. No
need to introduce a new naming convention.
--kevan
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 to milestone
On 3/23/07, Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would stick to milestone.
>
> Cheers!
> Hernan
>
> Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> > I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to get
> > some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting to look
> > at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this month I'd
> > like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
> >
> > So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
--
Davanum Srinivas :: http://wso2.org/ :: Oxygen for Web Services Developers
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
I would stick to milestone.
Cheers!
Hernan
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to get
> some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting to look
> at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this month I'd
> like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
>
> So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
>
> Thoughts?
>
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Watching dev@tomcat I noticed that when they cut a release they
actually hold a vote to determine if its alpha / beta / stable. Our
terminology is different of course but we could do something similar
from a procedural point of view. This also provides a pretty easy way
for the dev community at large to chime in with their opinions, even
if their votes are non-binding.
Best wishes,
Paul
On 3/22/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to
> get some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting to
> look at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this
> month I'd like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
>
> So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
>
> Thoughts?
>
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@laskowski.net.pl>.
On 3/22/07, Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com> wrote:
> Why not just go M<whatever> up until we are ready to do
> RC<whatever>. I don't really see value the beta stage... but thats
> just me :-)
And me. I like the naming. So the next release would be M4 whereas
when TCK passes it will go as RC1 and after a two weeks or so it's to
be a GA. I assume, the time periods between releases will likely be
different.
+1 for M4.
Jacek
--
Jacek Laskowski
http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
Why not just go M<whatever> up until we are ready to do
RC<whatever>. I don't really see value the beta stage... but thats
just me :-)
--jason
On Mar 22, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to
> get some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting
> to look at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this
> month I'd like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
>
> So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
>
> Thoughts?
Re: M4 or beta-1, that is the question
Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
I think it's another milestone until we either reach function complete
and/or tck passing. Either of those two criteria would push this to
something closer to a release and therefore merit a name that indicates
we're "almost" there. Until that time I think this is another milestone.
Joe
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> I'm starting to look at the end of the month release. I wanted to get
> some feedback on where everyone thinks we're at. I'm starting to look
> at outstanding snapshots and the like. For the end of this month I'd
> like to cut a branch on Mon / Tue.
>
> So the real question is do we go with a beta or a milestone?
>
> Thoughts?
>