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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Chris <cp...@earthlink.net> on 2004/07/21 00:44:10 UTC

Odd message

I'm not sure what to make of this.  First of all instead of being in my spam 
folder it was in my inbox.  I'll show the headers and maybe someone has an 
idea, this is from "view all headers" in Kmail:

Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-ELNK-AV: 0
X-Spam-DCC: MessageCare: chris.localdomain 1108; Body0Fuz10Fuz21
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on chris.localdomain
X-Spam-Level: ******************************************
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required~0 tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
        BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,OB_URI_RBL,RCVD_IN_DSBL,
        RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY,RCVD_IN_OPM,RCVD_IN_OPM_HTTP,
        RCVD_IN_SORBS,RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP,RM_t_bobbf,SARE_HTML_INV_TAG2,
        SARE_HTML_INV_TAG3,SARE_HTML_P_BREAKcb,SPAMCOP_URI_RBL,WS_URI_RBL
        autolearnO versionN63
X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times.
X-Spam-Report:

Below is when "viewing msg as plain txt"
 
 
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-ELNK-AV: 0
X-Spam-DCC: MessageCare: chris.localdomain 1108; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on chris.localdomain
X-Spam-Level: ******************************************
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0 tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
	BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,OB_URI_RBL,RCVD_IN_DSBL,
	RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY,RCVD_IN_OPM,RCVD_IN_OPM_HTTP,
	RCVD_IN_SORBS,RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP,RM_t_bobbf,SARE_HTML_INV_TAG2,
	SARE_HTML_INV_TAG3,SARE_HTML_P_BREAKcb,SPAMCOP_URI_RBL,WS_URI_RBL 
	autolearn=no version=2.63
X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times.

Now the hits are correct as well as the required along with the rest of the 
information.  Did SA burp on this one or something?

-- 
Chris
Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org
5:32pm up 21 days, 22:54, 2 users, load average: 0.56, 0.78, 1.08
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Re: Odd message

Posted by Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>.
At 06:44 PM 7/20/2004, Chris wrote:
>I'm not sure what to make of this.  First of all instead of being in my spam
>folder it was in my inbox.  I'll show the headers and maybe someone has an
>idea, this is from "view all headers" in Kmail:

It would appear that your mail client decided to treat the spam score as a 
QP encoded text character.

42 is decimal for ASCII "B", and QP characters are encoded by = followed by 
2 digits.

=42.8  decodes to B.8



X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required~0 tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
>         BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,OB_URI_RBL,RCVD_IN_DSBL,



>Below is when "viewing msg as plain txt"
>
>X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0 tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,


Re: Odd message

Posted by Bob Apthorpe <ap...@cynistar.net>.
Hi,

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:44:10 -0500 Chris <cp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure what to make of this.  First of all instead of being in my spam 
> folder it was in my inbox.  I'll show the headers and maybe someone has an 
> idea, this is from "view all headers" in Kmail:

Looks like Kmail is improperly decoding the headers as quoted-printable:

The following script is qp.pl:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

$rawhdr=<<"HERE";
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-ELNK-AV: 0
X-Spam-DCC: MessageCare: chris.localdomain 1108; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on chris.localdomain
X-Spam-Level: ******************************************
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0 tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
        BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,OB_URI_RBL,RCVD_IN_DSBL,
        RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY,RCVD_IN_OPM,RCVD_IN_OPM_HTTP,
        RCVD_IN_SORBS,RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP,RM_t_bobbf,SARE_HTML_INV_TAG2,
        SARE_HTML_INV_TAG3,SARE_HTML_P_BREAKcb,SPAMCOP_URI_RBL,WS_URI_RBL
        autolearn=no version=2.63
X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times.
HERE

open OFH, '|qpd.pl';
print OFH $rawhdr;
close OFH;

__END__

# The following is qpd.pl, needed due to MIME::Decoder's abyssmal "sod off, you
# procedural programming troglodytes!" documentation. It wouldn't kill you to
# let someone program against your effing module without having to jump
# through arcane IO redirection hoops or subclass it into something sensible.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use MIME::Decoder;
$decoder = new MIME::Decoder "quoted-printable" or die "unsupported";
$decoder->decode(\*STDIN, \*STDOUT);

Running qp.pl, I get

Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-ELNK-AV: 0
X-Spam-DCC: MessageCare: chris.localdomain 1108; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on chris.localdomain
X-Spam-Level: ******************************************
X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required=5.0 tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
        BAYES_99,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,OB_URI_RBL,RCVD_IN_DSBL,
        RCVD_IN_NJABL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY,RCVD_IN_OPM,RCVD_IN_OPM_HTTP,
        RCVD_IN_SORBS,RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP,RM_t_bobbf,SARE_HTML_INV_TAG2,
        SARE_HTML_INV_TAG3,SARE_HTML_P_BREAKcb,SPAMCOP_URI_RBL,WS_URI_RBL
        autolearn=no version=2.63
X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 0 times.

Compare:

Raw:     X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0 tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
Decoded: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required=5.0 tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
KMail:   X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required~0 tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,

Apparently MIME::Decode doesn't translate '=5.' to '~' as Kmail does.
Who knows what awful things you can make Kmail do by sending it an
appropriately malcoded message...? File a bug.

> Now the hits are correct as well as the required along with the rest of the 
> information.  Did SA burp on this one or something?

I think Kmail has indigestion. I traded Kmail for Sylpheed and haven't
looked back.

-- Bob

Re: Odd message

Posted by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com>.
At 03:44 PM 7/20/2004, you wrote:
>I'm not sure what to make of this.  First of all instead of being in my spam
>folder it was in my inbox.  I'll show the headers and maybe someone has an
>idea, this is from "view all headers" in Kmail:

<SNIP>

>Now the hits are correct as well as the required along with the rest of the
>information.  Did SA burp on this one or something?

Well, without knowing HOW a message is supposed to go into your spam 
folder, I don't think anyone here can tell you.

A little more information is needed. How is SA called? How is mail supposed 
to be 'moved'?

Evan 


Re: Odd message

Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
> Below is when "viewing msg as plain txt"
>
> X-Spam-Level: ******************************************
> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0 tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
>
> Now the hits are correct as well as the required along with the rest of
the
> information.  Did SA burp on this one or something?

I don't think SA burped, it seems to have rightly (I assume) classified this
as spam.  It is whatever comes after SA that takes that knowledge and routes
the message to the right place that somehow burpred.

        Loren


Re: Odd message

Posted by Chris <cp...@earthlink.net>.
On Wednesday 21 July 2004 12:45 pm, Jonas Eckerman wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:44:10 -0500, Chris wrote:
> >  maybe someone has an idea, this is from "view all headers" in
> >  Kmail:
>
> [...]
>
> >  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required~0
> >  tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
> >
> >  Below is when "viewing msg as plain txt"
>
> [...]
>
> >  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0
> >  tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,
>
> Seems like "Kmail" is buggy. It acts as if the headers are encoded with
> Quoted-Printable even though there's no such indicator. Get the author of
> "Kmail" to read the RFCs that specifies how MIME is used to encode 8-bit
> characters in headers.
>
> >  Did SA burp on this one or something?
>
> No. SA created perfectly valid and good headers.
>

Thanks Jonas and to all who replied.  I would imagine the bug has already 
been fixed.  I'm running a pretty old version of Kmail - 1.4.3 and KDE 
3.0.3 with Mandrake 9.0.  I've just never had the inclination to upgrade 
since the system is setup just the way I like it.  As I told Matt in 
another message, thats the only time I've seen this since I've been running 
SA (about 4 months) and it hasn't happened since.

Thanks again for all the replys.

-- 
Chris
Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org
8:22pm up 23 days, 1:43, 2 users, load average: 0.83, 0.84, 0.72
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Re: Odd message

Posted by Jonas Eckerman <jo...@frukt.org>.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:44:10 -0500, Chris wrote:

>  maybe someone has an idea, this is from "view all headers" in
>  Kmail:
[...]
>  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hitsB.8 required~0
>  tests«_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,

>  Below is when "viewing msg as plain txt"
[...]
>  X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=42.8 required=5.0
>  tests=AB_URI_RBL,AM_BODY_PLING,

Seems like "Kmail" is buggy. It acts as if the headers are encoded with Quoted-Printable even though there's no such indicator. Get the author of "Kmail" to read the RFCs that specifies how MIME is used to encode 8-bit characters in headers.

>  Did SA burp on this one or something?

No. SA created perfectly valid and good headers.

Regards
/Jonas

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