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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> on 2010/11/06 12:42:17 UTC
i give up
I give up. I cant get simple things to work and the scattered documentation
is not helping . I will wait till the year when there will be a Tapestry5 in
action book.
Re: i give up
Posted by Katia Aresti <ka...@gmail.com>.
Hi Josh,
Recently one Tapestry committer - Christophe Cordenier
-<http://spreadthesource.com/>[1] posted an announce to make people to
join him to create some projects
together in order to learn Tapestry. This initiative is helping to build
Tapestry demos in order to make beginners life easier.
Hotel-Booking-Demo [2] is an startup. Another demo is Tapestwitter [3],
which is going to be modified to add new Tapestry 5.2 features and a new
layout, with kind of components as you described you wish to learn. We will
create more complex demos from this base.
If you are motivated to learn and give Tapestry feedback, you could join the
team.
Tapestry 5.2 adds new features, and some of them are described and very well
explained on Igor's blog [4]
You will find very good tutorials in Howard's blog [5], as for example how
to understand what "Heartbeat" and "Environmental" means ... (honestly, this
is not an easy part)
Don't give up !!!! And do not blame tapestry neither because of maven, or
because maven plugin doesn't work. As this is Tapestry, not Maven project ;)
Katia
[1] : http://spreadthesource.com/
[2] : http://github.com/ccordenier/tapestry5-hotel-booking
[3] : http://github.com/lguerin/tapestwitter
[4] : http://blog.tapestry5.de/
[5] : http://tapestryjava.blogspot.com/
2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> Taha,
>
> I think i identify alot with you. I am already comfortable with wicket and
> have done several projects. But i was feeling that i would be more
> productive with tapestry. I even bought a book to learn from. This is my
> second attempt to tapestry. I think a framework as good as tapestry and
> with
> so many nitty gritties to be learnt out to have an up to date USer guide
> that gives the whole picture.
>
> regards.
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Taha Hafeez <tawus.tapestry@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > To be frank enough, I gave up tapestry atleast 5 times and this time even
> > the start was difficult... (Previous 4 times I went back to wicket, which
> > is
> > also a very good framework). But then it is so good that you keep coming
> > back to it.
> >
> > This is what I will suggest
> >
> > 1. Follow Tutorial #1
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tutorial1/<http://Tutorial%20#1>
> >
> > 2. Try Jump Start:
> http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au:8080/jumpstart/
> >
> > 3. Try a small project of yours in tapestry and if you face any problems,
> > you have this mailing list and believe me it is one of the best support I
> > have seen in any mailing list.
> >
> > Taha
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I give up. I cant get simple things to work and the scattered
> > documentation
> > > is not helping . I will wait till the year when there will be a
> Tapestry5
> > > in
> > > action book.
> > >
> >
>
Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Taha,
I think i identify alot with you. I am already comfortable with wicket and
have done several projects. But i was feeling that i would be more
productive with tapestry. I even bought a book to learn from. This is my
second attempt to tapestry. I think a framework as good as tapestry and with
so many nitty gritties to be learnt out to have an up to date USer guide
that gives the whole picture.
regards.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Taha Hafeez <ta...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
> To be frank enough, I gave up tapestry atleast 5 times and this time even
> the start was difficult... (Previous 4 times I went back to wicket, which
> is
> also a very good framework). But then it is so good that you keep coming
> back to it.
>
> This is what I will suggest
>
> 1. Follow Tutorial #1
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tutorial1/<http://Tutorial%20#1>
>
> 2. Try Jump Start: http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au:8080/jumpstart/
>
> 3. Try a small project of yours in tapestry and if you face any problems,
> you have this mailing list and believe me it is one of the best support I
> have seen in any mailing list.
>
> Taha
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I give up. I cant get simple things to work and the scattered
> documentation
> > is not helping . I will wait till the year when there will be a Tapestry5
> > in
> > action book.
> >
>
Re: i give up
Posted by Taha Hafeez <ta...@gmail.com>.
Hi Josh,
To be frank enough, I gave up tapestry atleast 5 times and this time even
the start was difficult... (Previous 4 times I went back to wicket, which is
also a very good framework). But then it is so good that you keep coming
back to it.
This is what I will suggest
1. Follow Tutorial #1
http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tutorial1/<http://Tutorial%20#1>
2. Try Jump Start: http://jumpstart.doublenegative.com.au:8080/jumpstart/
3. Try a small project of yours in tapestry and if you face any problems,
you have this mailing list and believe me it is one of the best support I
have seen in any mailing list.
Taha
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I give up. I cant get simple things to work and the scattered documentation
> is not helping . I will wait till the year when there will be a Tapestry5
> in
> action book.
>
Re: i give up
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
When you define a component in the Java class, using a field with the
@Component annotation, it has to "bind" to an element of the template with
the matching t:id attribute. Your template, Index.tml, does not have an
element with t:id="menuBar".
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sven
>
> Seems like i am getting somewhere.
>
> Kindly tell me, what causes this:
>
> An unexpected application exception has occurred.
>
> - org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.OperationException
> Embedded component(s) menuBar are defined within component class
> com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index (or a super-class of Index), but are not
> present in the component template
> (classpath:com/josh/tcontacts/pages/Index.tml).
> trace
> - Constructing instance of page class com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index
> - Creating ComponentAssembler for com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index
> - java.lang.RuntimeException
> Embedded component(s) menuBar are defined within component class
> com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index (or a super-class of Index), but are not
> present in the component template
> (classpath:com/josh/tcontacts/pages/Index.tml).
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Sven Homburg <homburgs@googlemail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > ${value} in the Menubar template should be ${item}
> >
> > with regards
> > Sven Homburg
> > Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
> > http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/11/6 Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>:
> > > class Menubar
> > > {
> > > @Property
> > > private List menuItems;
> > >
> > > @Property
> > > private String item;
> > >
> > > @Component(parameters = {"source=menuItems", "value=item"})
> > > private Loop itemLoop;
> > >
> > > @SetupRender
> > > void initSomeVars()
> > > {
> > > menuItems = new ArrayList()
> > > menuItems.add("First Item");
> > > menuItems.add("Second Item");
> > > }
> > > }
> > >
> > > Menubar.tml
> > > <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> > > <body>
> > > <t:content>
> > > <ul>
> > > <li t:id="itemLoop">${value}</li>
> > > </ul>
> > > <t:content>
> > > </body>
> > > </html>
> > >
> > > class Index
> > > {
> > > @Component
> > > private Menubar menubar
> > > }
> > >
> > > Index.tml
> > > <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> > > <body>
> > > <div t:id="menubar"/>
> > > </body>
> > > </html>
> > >
> > >
> > > with regards
> > > Sven Homburg
> > > Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
> > > http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>:
> > >> Thiago,
> > >>
> > >> I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am
> > fine
> > >> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> > >> enabling live reloading.
> > >>
> > >> What i am doing is very simple. All i want is to have markup contained
> > in a
> > >> file e.g what is in my Menubar.tml to be inserted into a page, e.g my
> > >> Index.tml page. I thought i would do that by creating my Menubar.tml
> and
> > >> Menubar.java as component and then adding it wherever i want in any
> page
> > by
> > >> doing something like <div t:type="menubar"/>. If someone can do this
> and
> > >> send me the files i will appreciate.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks all.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> > >> thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <
> joshnet2030@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is my scenario.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You're layout seems ok.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
> > >>>> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
> > >>>> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
> > >>> component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's
> > with
> > >>> your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component
> > to
> > >>> work.
> > >>>
> > >>> What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
> > >>> checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in
> the
> > same
> > >>> package/folder as your component?
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> > >>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant,
> > developer,
> > >>> and instructor
> > >>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
>
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator of Apache Tapestry
The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn
how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast!
(971) 678-5210
http://howardlewisship.com
Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Sven
Seems like i am getting somewhere.
Kindly tell me, what causes this:
An unexpected application exception has occurred.
- org.apache.tapestry5.ioc.internal.OperationException
Embedded component(s) menuBar are defined within component class
com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index (or a super-class of Index), but are not
present in the component template
(classpath:com/josh/tcontacts/pages/Index.tml).
trace
- Constructing instance of page class com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index
- Creating ComponentAssembler for com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index
- java.lang.RuntimeException
Embedded component(s) menuBar are defined within component class
com.josh.tcontacts.pages.Index (or a super-class of Index), but are not
present in the component template
(classpath:com/josh/tcontacts/pages/Index.tml).
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> ${value} in the Menubar template should be ${item}
>
> with regards
> Sven Homburg
> Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
> http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/11/6 Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>:
> > class Menubar
> > {
> > @Property
> > private List menuItems;
> >
> > @Property
> > private String item;
> >
> > @Component(parameters = {"source=menuItems", "value=item"})
> > private Loop itemLoop;
> >
> > @SetupRender
> > void initSomeVars()
> > {
> > menuItems = new ArrayList()
> > menuItems.add("First Item");
> > menuItems.add("Second Item");
> > }
> > }
> >
> > Menubar.tml
> > <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> > <body>
> > <t:content>
> > <ul>
> > <li t:id="itemLoop">${value}</li>
> > </ul>
> > <t:content>
> > </body>
> > </html>
> >
> > class Index
> > {
> > @Component
> > private Menubar menubar
> > }
> >
> > Index.tml
> > <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> > <body>
> > <div t:id="menubar"/>
> > </body>
> > </html>
> >
> >
> > with regards
> > Sven Homburg
> > Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
> > http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>:
> >> Thiago,
> >>
> >> I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am
> fine
> >> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> >> enabling live reloading.
> >>
> >> What i am doing is very simple. All i want is to have markup contained
> in a
> >> file e.g what is in my Menubar.tml to be inserted into a page, e.g my
> >> Index.tml page. I thought i would do that by creating my Menubar.tml and
> >> Menubar.java as component and then adding it wherever i want in any page
> by
> >> doing something like <div t:type="menubar"/>. If someone can do this and
> >> send me the files i will appreciate.
> >>
> >> Thanks all.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> >> thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here is my scenario.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You're layout seems ok.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
> >>>> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
> >>>> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
> >>> component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's
> with
> >>> your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component
> to
> >>> work.
> >>>
> >>> What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
> >>> checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in the
> same
> >>> package/folder as your component?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> >>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant,
> developer,
> >>> and instructor
> >>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>
>
Re: i give up
Posted by Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>.
${value} in the Menubar template should be ${item}
with regards
Sven Homburg
Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
2010/11/6 Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>:
> class Menubar
> {
> @Property
> private List menuItems;
>
> @Property
> private String item;
>
> @Component(parameters = {"source=menuItems", "value=item"})
> private Loop itemLoop;
>
> @SetupRender
> void initSomeVars()
> {
> menuItems = new ArrayList()
> menuItems.add("First Item");
> menuItems.add("Second Item");
> }
> }
>
> Menubar.tml
> <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> <body>
> <t:content>
> <ul>
> <li t:id="itemLoop">${value}</li>
> </ul>
> <t:content>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> class Index
> {
> @Component
> private Menubar menubar
> }
>
> Index.tml
> <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> <body>
> <div t:id="menubar"/>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> with regards
> Sven Homburg
> Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
> http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>:
>> Thiago,
>>
>> I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am fine
>> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
>> enabling live reloading.
>>
>> What i am doing is very simple. All i want is to have markup contained in a
>> file e.g what is in my Menubar.tml to be inserted into a page, e.g my
>> Index.tml page. I thought i would do that by creating my Menubar.tml and
>> Menubar.java as component and then adding it wherever i want in any page by
>> doing something like <div t:type="menubar"/>. If someone can do this and
>> send me the files i will appreciate.
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
>> thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is my scenario.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're layout seems ok.
>>>
>>>
>>> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
>>>> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
>>>
>>>
>>> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
>>>> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
>>> component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's with
>>> your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component to
>>> work.
>>>
>>> What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
>>> checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in the same
>>> package/folder as your component?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
>>> and instructor
>>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>>>
>>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks alot.
Am on my eclipse trying it out.
regards.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> class Menubar
> {
> @Property
> private List menuItems;
>
> @Property
> private String item;
>
> @Component(parameters = {"source=menuItems", "value=item"})
> private Loop itemLoop;
>
> @SetupRender
> void initSomeVars()
> {
> menuItems = new ArrayList()
> menuItems.add("First Item");
> menuItems.add("Second Item");
> }
> }
>
> Menubar.tml
> <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> <body>
> <t:content>
> <ul>
> <li t:id="itemLoop">${value}</li>
> </ul>
> <t:content>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> class Index
> {
> @Component
> private Menubar menubar
> }
>
> Index.tml
> <html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
> <body>
> <div t:id="menubar"/>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> with regards
> Sven Homburg
> Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
> http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>:
> > Thiago,
> >
> > I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am fine
> > with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> > enabling live reloading.
> >
> > What i am doing is very simple. All i want is to have markup contained in
> a
> > file e.g what is in my Menubar.tml to be inserted into a page, e.g my
> > Index.tml page. I thought i would do that by creating my Menubar.tml and
> > Menubar.java as component and then adding it wherever i want in any page
> by
> > doing something like <div t:type="menubar"/>. If someone can do this and
> > send me the files i will appreciate.
> >
> > Thanks all.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> > thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is my scenario.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You're layout seems ok.
> >>
> >>
> >> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
> >>> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
> >>>
> >>
> >> As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
> >>
> >>
> >> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
> >>> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
> >>>
> >>
> >> You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
> >> component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's with
> >> your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component to
> >> work.
> >>
> >> What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
> >> checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in the
> same
> >> package/folder as your component?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> >> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> >> and instructor
> >> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> >>
> >> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tapestry.apache.org
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>
>
Re: i give up
Posted by Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>.
class Menubar
{
@Property
private List menuItems;
@Property
private String item;
@Component(parameters = {"source=menuItems", "value=item"})
private Loop itemLoop;
@SetupRender
void initSomeVars()
{
menuItems = new ArrayList()
menuItems.add("First Item");
menuItems.add("Second Item");
}
}
Menubar.tml
<html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
<body>
<t:content>
<ul>
<li t:id="itemLoop">${value}</li>
</ul>
<t:content>
</body>
</html>
class Index
{
@Component
private Menubar menubar
}
Index.tml
<html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
<body>
<div t:id="menubar"/>
</body>
</html>
with regards
Sven Homburg
Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>:
> Thiago,
>
> I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am fine
> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> enabling live reloading.
>
> What i am doing is very simple. All i want is to have markup contained in a
> file e.g what is in my Menubar.tml to be inserted into a page, e.g my
> Index.tml page. I thought i would do that by creating my Menubar.tml and
> Menubar.java as component and then adding it wherever i want in any page by
> doing something like <div t:type="menubar"/>. If someone can do this and
> send me the files i will appreciate.
>
> Thanks all.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here is my scenario.
>>>
>>
>> You're layout seems ok.
>>
>>
>> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
>>> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
>>>
>>
>> As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
>>
>>
>> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
>>> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
>>>
>>
>> You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
>> component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's with
>> your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component to
>> work.
>>
>> What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
>> checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in the same
>> package/folder as your component?
>>
>> --
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
>> and instructor
>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>>
>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>>
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:40:13 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks guys,
You're welcome!
> My menubar thing worked. Am proceeding very well now and am liking it.
Cool! What was your error? I'm very curious to know. :)
> I am planning on starting a blog and sharing my lessons with the world.
That would be very nice. Don't forget to post its URL for us. ;)
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and instructor
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Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Muhammad. I hope to be good enough to help someone.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Muhammad Mohsen <m....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congrats :)
>
> I'd say that tapestry is not easy to be a second nature to anyone..but it's
> developers !
> First you have to understand it well because it's almost like nothing you
> have been seen before with respect to productivity and programming models
> (did I use the term right ?)
>
> Anyway, stay on it. Follow the documentation mentioned above..and this one
> too http://people.apache.org/~uli/tapestry-site/index.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Euli/tapestry-site/index.html>,
> Once I looked at
> the FAQ page, man it took a breath away !!..Felt like looking at a gold
> mine
> !! At last someone is speaking about the difference between pages and
> components, different @Inject annotation variances...and the mystery
> called Environmental etc, You will love it.
>
> I haven't tried much web frameworks but Tapestry is lovely. Only if it had
> the amount of developers working on it full time, we'd have it just the way
> we'd like a web framework to be soon enough to end the frustration. But
> sadly they are all almost busy with their jobs, and no one can blame them
> for that.
>
> Stay on the list, anyone will surely help if he could :)
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks guys,
> >
> > My menubar thing worked. Am proceeding very well now and am liking it.
> >
> > I am planning on starting a blog and sharing my lessons with the world.
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> > thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:55:09 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thiago,
> > >>
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > >
> > > I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am
> > fine
> > >> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> > >> enabling live reloading.
> > >>
> > >
> > > You'll learn and develop way faster with live class reloading. There's
> no
> > > reason for not using it (and many for using). Are you running jetty:run
> > in
> > > the command line or using m2eclipse? If under m2eclipse, there's one
> > gotcha:
> > > it configures Eclipse such that src/main/resources isn't copied to
> > > target/classes autimatically.
> > >
> > > How is your package structure? Where are you putting your files? I
> guess
> > > Tapestry isn't finding your component template due to it being in the
> > wrong
> > > place or not being included in the classpath. Component templates
> should
> > be
> > > in the same package as the corresponding class and have the same name,
> > case
> > > sensitive.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> > > Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant,
> developer,
> > > and instructor
> > > Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> > > http://www.arsmachina.com.br
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Regards,*
> *Muhammad Gelbana
> Java Software Programmer*
>
Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:14:29 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yeah, and that's the huge step i mentioned after that! After Tap, I saw
> some things about JSF but i find it too boring and overcomplicated in
> some basics to work with... And recently i'm working on a .net
> architecture with
> asp.netwebforms, and I see some huge differences also... Specially
> that
> asp.net (and i dare to say jsf too) is only productive with IDE support
> (for
> layout/code generation etc.). All the tapestry pages i developed so far
> were
> made by coding all of them on Eclipse without IDE graphic support nor
> code
> generation. Tapestry code is just simple and readable most of the times.
> But, some tools to make some things faster wouldn't hurt, also.
>
>
>> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
> it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers
>> Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can
>> still
> be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as it is.
>
> Great! If you need my help on anything just ask, amigo. It will be a
> great
> tool for converting many brazilian developers to Tap :)
>
>
> _______________________
> Everton Agner Ramos
>
>
> 2010/11/11 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
>
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:38:04 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Tapestry can be a little hard to understand and to use it effectively
>> in
>>> the beginning. Before meeting Tap, the only framework I really used was
>>> Struts 1.x, so i guess i took a huge step, and i just loved it.
>>>
>>
>> Struts is request-oriented, Tapestry, JSF and Wicket is component and
>> event-oriented, so you had to learn not just another framework, but a
>> completely different approach to Web applications.
>>
>>
>> Thiago, are you going to release a Tap book? Great!!
>>>
>>
>> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
>> it.
>> tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is
>> to
>> update it continuosly. Anyway, it can still be used to learn Tapestry
>> 5.2 as
>> it is.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
>> and instructor
>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>>
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>>
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Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
and instructor
Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
Consultor, desenvolvedor e instrutor em Java, Tapestry e Hibernate
Coordenador e professor da Especialização em Engenharia de Software com
Ênfase em Java da Faculdade Pitágoras
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Re: i give up
Posted by Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>.
Whoops, i meant:
> Yep... that's why some people think jsf is nice
_______________________
Everton Agner Ramos
2010/11/11 Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
> > The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
>
> I like C# specifically... but I don't trade java for it. Specially because
> most of the things i like about C# will exist in java soon. I like knowing
> all the sides of the force :P
>
>
>
> > That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
> it couldn't use some tooling. :)
>
> Yep... that's why people think jsf is nice, because it's a forced standart
> and people make all kinds of tools for it.
>
>
>
> > That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
> Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best
> > Java framework yet. :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't
> read English, so any tool that has Portuguese documentation
> > or books tend to be more used than others.
>
> True. And most of the developers who know english are too lazy to read. lol
>
>
> _______________________
> Everton Agner Ramos
>
>
> 2010/11/11 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:14:29 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, and that's the huge step i mentioned after that! After Tap, I saw
>>> some things about JSF but i find it too boring and overcomplicated in some
>>> basics to work with...
>>>
>>
>> That's my impression with JSF too . . .
>>
>>
>> And recently i'm working on a .net architecture with
>>> asp.netwebforms,
>>>
>>
>> The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
>>
>>
>> Tapestry code is just simple and readable most of the times.
>>> But, some tools to make some things faster wouldn't hurt, also.
>>>
>>
>> That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
>> it couldn't use some tooling. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
>>>>
>>> it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers
>>>
>>>> Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can
>>>> still
>>>>
>>> be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as it is.
>>>
>>> Great! If you need my help on anything just ask, amigo. It will be a
>>> great tool for converting many brazilian developers to Tap :)
>>>
>>
>> That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
>> Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best Java framework yet.
>> :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't read English, so any tool
>> that has Portuguese documentation or books tend to be more used than others.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
>> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
>> and instructor
>> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>>
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>
Re: i give up
Posted by Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>.
> The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
I like C# specifically... but I don't trade java for it. Specially because
most of the things i like about C# will exist in java soon. I like knowing
all the sides of the force :P
> That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
it couldn't use some tooling. :)
Yep... that's why people think jsf is nice, because it's a forced standart
and people make all kinds of tools for it.
> That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best
> Java framework yet. :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't read
English, so any tool that has Portuguese documentation
> or books tend to be more used than others.
True. And most of the developers who know english are too lazy to read. lol
_______________________
Everton Agner Ramos
2010/11/11 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:14:29 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, and that's the huge step i mentioned after that! After Tap, I saw
>> some things about JSF but i find it too boring and overcomplicated in some
>> basics to work with...
>>
>
> That's my impression with JSF too . . .
>
>
> And recently i'm working on a .net architecture with
>> asp.netwebforms,
>>
>
> The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
>
>
> Tapestry code is just simple and readable most of the times.
>> But, some tools to make some things faster wouldn't hurt, also.
>>
>
> That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
> it couldn't use some tooling. :)
>
>
>
> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
>>>
>> it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers
>>
>>> Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can
>>> still
>>>
>> be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as it is.
>>
>> Great! If you need my help on anything just ask, amigo. It will be a great
>> tool for converting many brazilian developers to Tap :)
>>
>
> That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
> Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best Java framework yet.
> :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't read English, so any tool
> that has Portuguese documentation or books tend to be more used than others.
>
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> and instructor
> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:14:29 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yeah, and that's the huge step i mentioned after that! After Tap, I saw
> some things about JSF but i find it too boring and overcomplicated in
> some basics to work with...
That's my impression with JSF too . . .
> And recently i'm working on a .net architecture with
> asp.netwebforms,
The Dark Side of the Force, as me and my friends call it. :P
> Tapestry code is just simple and readable most of the times.
> But, some tools to make some things faster wouldn't hurt, also.
That's true. I think Tapestry doesn't need tooling, but that doesn't mean
it couldn't use some tooling. :)
>> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
> it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers
>> Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can
>> still
> be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as it is.
>
> Great! If you need my help on anything just ask, amigo. It will be a
> great tool for converting many brazilian developers to Tap :)
That's exactly my plan! To make life better for Brazilian and other
Portuguese-speaking developers that doesn't use the best Java framework
yet. :) Unfortunately, most Brazilian developers don't read English, so
any tool that has Portuguese documentation or books tend to be more used
than others.
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
and instructor
Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
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Re: i give up
Posted by Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>.
> Struts is request-oriented, Tapestry, JSF and Wicket is component and
event-oriented, so you had to
> learn not just another framework, but a completely different approach to
Web applications.
Yeah, and that's the huge step i mentioned after that! After Tap, I saw some
things about JSF but i find it too boring and overcomplicated in some basics
to work with... And recently i'm working on a .net architecture with
asp.netwebforms, and I see some huge differences also... Specially
that
asp.net (and i dare to say jsf too) is only productive with IDE support (for
layout/code generation etc.). All the tapestry pages i developed so far were
made by coding all of them on Eclipse without IDE graphic support nor code
generation. Tapestry code is just simple and readable most of the times.
But, some tools to make some things faster wouldn't hurt, also.
> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers
> Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can still
be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as it is.
Great! If you need my help on anything just ask, amigo. It will be a great
tool for converting many brazilian developers to Tap :)
_______________________
Everton Agner Ramos
2010/11/11 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:38:04 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Tapestry can be a little hard to understand and to use it effectively in
>> the beginning. Before meeting Tap, the only framework I really used was
>> Struts 1.x, so i guess i took a huge step, and i just loved it.
>>
>
> Struts is request-oriented, Tapestry, JSF and Wicket is component and
> event-oriented, so you had to learn not just another framework, but a
> completely different approach to Web applications.
>
>
> Thiago, are you going to release a Tap book? Great!!
>>
>
> Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for it.
> tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is to
> update it continuosly. Anyway, it can still be used to learn Tapestry 5.2 as
> it is.
>
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> and instructor
> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:38:04 -0200, Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Tapestry can be a little hard to understand and to use it effectively in
> the beginning. Before meeting Tap, the only framework I really used was
> Struts 1.x, so i guess i took a huge step, and i just loved it.
Struts is request-oriented, Tapestry, JSF and Wicket is component and
event-oriented, so you had to learn not just another framework, but a
completely different approach to Web applications.
> Thiago, are you going to release a Tap book? Great!!
Yes, and for free. :) I just hadn't the time to build a little site for
it. tapestry.com.br is mine. :) My book covers Tapestry 5.1 and my plan is
to update it continuosly. Anyway, it can still be used to learn Tapestry
5.2 as it is.
--
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Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
and instructor
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Re: i give up
Posted by Everton Agner <to...@gmail.com>.
Tapestry can be a little hard to understand and to use it effectively in the
beginning. Before meeting Tap, the only framework I really used was Struts
1.x, so i guess i took a huge step, and i just loved it. But i needed to
read the whole "Tapestry 5: Building Web Applications" book to understand
most of things, specially because i never met component based web
frameworks. Some other developers who worked with me by that time just
didn't want to understand things, just code it. So, they failed most of the
time. I guess it's the same as doing SQL before knowing what is a database
and how it works.
One more thing that scared me back then was the Tap IoC code in the modules
classes. But I was new to IoC itself too, so I guess it could be explained
by that. Now I love it.
Some times i thought if Tap wouldn't be too High-tech for me lol
>> could you post a link to your portuguese T5 documentation/article/book?
> I haven't released it yet. :(
Thiago, are you going to release a Tap book? Great!!
_______________________
Everton Agner Ramos
2010/11/11 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:05:27 -0200, françois facon <fr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> If you are not afraid by the weather of Lille (North of France) :( ,
>> perhaps I can make you a proposal. :)
>> because I'm looking for a salary software engineers to work on Tapestry
>> full time.
>>
>
> I think I wasn't clear: I was talking about developing Tapestry itself full
> time. I'm in a job now working in very nice Tapestry-powered projects. :)
>
> Anyway, thanks, François! Lille seems to be a very beautiful city. :)
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> and instructor
> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
>
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 08:05:27 -0200, françois facon <fr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> If you are not afraid by the weather of Lille (North of France) :( ,
> perhaps I can make you a proposal. :)
> because I'm looking for a salary software engineers to work on Tapestry
> full time.
I think I wasn't clear: I was talking about developing Tapestry itself
full time. I'm in a job now working in very nice Tapestry-powered
projects. :)
Anyway, thanks, François! Lille seems to be a very beautiful city. :)
--
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and instructor
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Re: i give up
Posted by françois facon <fr...@gmail.com>.
2010/11/6 Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:44:22 -0200, Muhammad Mohsen <m....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> If anyone wants to pay me to work on Tapestry full time, please tell me. :)
> ;)
>
If you are not afraid by the weather of Lille (North of France) :( ,
perhaps I can make you a proposal. :)
because I'm looking for a salary software engineers to work on Tapestry full
time.
Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:45:49 -0200, Nicolas Barrera <nb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thiago,
Hi, Nicolas!
> could you post a link to your portuguese T5 documentation/article/book?
I haven't released it yet. :(
> just curious, as I 'm learning both right now.., T5 and portuguese :D
Cool! I'll post a link when it's ready. :)
Abraço! :D
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Re: i give up
Posted by Nicolas Barrera <nb...@gmail.com>.
Thiago,
could you post a link to your portuguese T5 documentation/article/book?
just curious, as I 'm learning both right now.., T5 and portuguese :D
cheers!
Nicolás.-
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:44:22 -0200, Muhammad Mohsen <m....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> First you have to understand it well because it's almost like nothing you
>> have been seen before with respect to productivity and programming models
>> (did I use the term right ?)
>>
>
> Part of its fundamental concepts (pages and components modelled and treated
> as objects) have some similarity with Wicket, but the implementation details
> are quite different.
>
>
> Anyway, stay on it. Follow the documentation mentioned above..and this one
>> too http://people.apache.org/~uli/tapestry-site/index.html<http://people.apache.org/%7Euli/tapestry-site/index.html>,
>> Once I looked at the FAQ page, man it took a breath away !!..
>>
>
> The Tapestry weakness has always been the documentation, but the new one
> it's becoming waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the current one.
>
>
> Felt like looking at a gold mine !! At last someone is speaking about the
>> difference between pages and
>> components, different @Inject annotation variances...and the mystery
>> called Environmental etc, You will love it.
>>
>
> @Environmental and the Environment are not hard to use, just to understand
> at first sight. :) Think of it as one way of a page or component to pass
> some info both up and down in the tree.
>
>
> I haven't tried much web frameworks but Tapestry is lovely.
>>
>
> In my humble opinion:
>
> * Struts 1 sucks big time. I started hating it when I started to teach it.
> * Struts 2 (aka WebWork) is what Struts 1 should have been in first place.
> It's a nice framework, but it's request-oriented. Tapestry, Wicket and JSF
> are component and event oriented, making programming easier and better.
> * JSF is complex.
> * I've never programmed in other Web frameworks.
>
> Only if it had the amount of developers working on it fulltime, we'd have
>> it just the way
>>
>> we'd like a web framework to be soon enough to end the frustration. But
>> sadly they are all almost busy with their jobs, and no one can blame them
>> for that.
>>
>
> If anyone wants to pay me to work on Tapestry full time, please tell me. :)
> ;)
>
>
> Stay on the list, anyone will surely help if he could :)
>>
>
> That's one of the Tapestry's advantages. :)
>
> --
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> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> and instructor
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:44:22 -0200, Muhammad Mohsen <m....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> First you have to understand it well because it's almost like nothing you
> have been seen before with respect to productivity and programming models
> (did I use the term right ?)
Part of its fundamental concepts (pages and components modelled and
treated as objects) have some similarity with Wicket, but the
implementation details are quite different.
> Anyway, stay on it. Follow the documentation mentioned above..and this
> one too http://people.apache.org/~uli/tapestry-site/index.html, Once I
> looked at the FAQ page, man it took a breath away !!..
The Tapestry weakness has always been the documentation, but the new one
it's becoming waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the current one.
> Felt like looking at a gold mine !! At last someone is speaking about
> the difference between pages and
> components, different @Inject annotation variances...and the mystery
> called Environmental etc, You will love it.
@Environmental and the Environment are not hard to use, just to understand
at first sight. :) Think of it as one way of a page or component to pass
some info both up and down in the tree.
> I haven't tried much web frameworks but Tapestry is lovely.
In my humble opinion:
* Struts 1 sucks big time. I started hating it when I started to teach it.
* Struts 2 (aka WebWork) is what Struts 1 should have been in first place.
It's a nice framework, but it's request-oriented. Tapestry, Wicket and JSF
are component and event oriented, making programming easier and better.
* JSF is complex.
* I've never programmed in other Web frameworks.
> Only if it had the amount of developers working on it fulltime, we'd
> have it just the way
> we'd like a web framework to be soon enough to end the frustration. But
> sadly they are all almost busy with their jobs, and no one can blame them
> for that.
If anyone wants to pay me to work on Tapestry full time, please tell me.
:) ;)
> Stay on the list, anyone will surely help if he could :)
That's one of the Tapestry's advantages. :)
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Re: i give up
Posted by Muhammad Mohsen <m....@gmail.com>.
Congrats :)
I'd say that tapestry is not easy to be a second nature to anyone..but it's
developers !
First you have to understand it well because it's almost like nothing you
have been seen before with respect to productivity and programming models
(did I use the term right ?)
Anyway, stay on it. Follow the documentation mentioned above..and this one
too http://people.apache.org/~uli/tapestry-site/index.html, Once I looked at
the FAQ page, man it took a breath away !!..Felt like looking at a gold mine
!! At last someone is speaking about the difference between pages and
components, different @Inject annotation variances...and the mystery
called Environmental etc, You will love it.
I haven't tried much web frameworks but Tapestry is lovely. Only if it had
the amount of developers working on it full time, we'd have it just the way
we'd like a web framework to be soon enough to end the frustration. But
sadly they are all almost busy with their jobs, and no one can blame them
for that.
Stay on the list, anyone will surely help if he could :)
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks guys,
>
> My menubar thing worked. Am proceeding very well now and am liking it.
>
> I am planning on starting a blog and sharing my lessons with the world.
>
> regards.
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
> thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:55:09 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thiago,
> >>
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> > I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am
> fine
> >> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> >> enabling live reloading.
> >>
> >
> > You'll learn and develop way faster with live class reloading. There's no
> > reason for not using it (and many for using). Are you running jetty:run
> in
> > the command line or using m2eclipse? If under m2eclipse, there's one
> gotcha:
> > it configures Eclipse such that src/main/resources isn't copied to
> > target/classes autimatically.
> >
> > How is your package structure? Where are you putting your files? I guess
> > Tapestry isn't finding your component template due to it being in the
> wrong
> > place or not being included in the classpath. Component templates should
> be
> > in the same package as the corresponding class and have the same name,
> case
> > sensitive.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> > Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> > and instructor
> > Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> > http://www.arsmachina.com.br
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Java Software Programmer*
Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks guys,
My menubar thing worked. Am proceeding very well now and am liking it.
I am planning on starting a blog and sharing my lessons with the world.
regards.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:55:09 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thiago,
>>
>
> Hi!
>
>
> I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am fine
>> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
>> enabling live reloading.
>>
>
> You'll learn and develop way faster with live class reloading. There's no
> reason for not using it (and many for using). Are you running jetty:run in
> the command line or using m2eclipse? If under m2eclipse, there's one gotcha:
> it configures Eclipse such that src/main/resources isn't copied to
> target/classes autimatically.
>
> How is your package structure? Where are you putting your files? I guess
> Tapestry isn't finding your component template due to it being in the wrong
> place or not being included in the classpath. Component templates should be
> in the same package as the corresponding class and have the same name, case
> sensitive.
>
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> and instructor
> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:55:09 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thiago,
Hi!
> I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am fine
> with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
> enabling live reloading.
You'll learn and develop way faster with live class reloading. There's no
reason for not using it (and many for using). Are you running jetty:run in
the command line or using m2eclipse? If under m2eclipse, there's one
gotcha: it configures Eclipse such that src/main/resources isn't copied to
target/classes autimatically.
How is your package structure? Where are you putting your files? I guess
Tapestry isn't finding your component template due to it being in the
wrong place or not being included in the classpath. Component templates
should be in the same package as the corresponding class and have the same
name, case sensitive.
--
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and instructor
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Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thiago,
I am using Eclipse with maven and running it via mvn jetty:run. I am fine
with restarting jetty when i make a change so i dont care much about
enabling live reloading.
What i am doing is very simple. All i want is to have markup contained in a
file e.g what is in my Menubar.tml to be inserted into a page, e.g my
Index.tml page. I thought i would do that by creating my Menubar.tml and
Menubar.java as component and then adding it wherever i want in any page by
doing something like <div t:type="menubar"/>. If someone can do this and
send me the files i will appreciate.
Thanks all.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Here is my scenario.
>>
>
> You're layout seems ok.
>
>
> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
>> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
>>
>
> As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
>
>
> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
>> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
>>
>
> You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
> component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's with
> your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component to
> work.
>
> What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
> checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in the same
> package/folder as your component?
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
> and instructor
> Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
>
> http://www.arsmachina.com.br
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:30:36 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Here is my scenario.
You're layout seems ok.
> That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
> same with tapestry and i know its possible.
As far as I know, Wicket is the most similar framework to Tapestry.
> How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
> various components and compose the pages as neccessary.
You can do that. Tapestry is meant to be easy and quick to create a
component. You're probably stumbling into some detail (I guess it's with
your environment, not your Tapestry cod) that prevents your component to
work.
What's your environment? Eclipse? m2eclipse? Jetty? Tomcat? Have you
checked if your component template is being put in the classpath in the
same package/folder as your component?
--
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Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
and instructor
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Re: i give up
Posted by Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Thiago for your encouragement.
Here is my layout class.
<html xmlns:t="http://tapestry.apache.org/schema/tapestry_5_1_0.xsd">
<head>
</head>
<body>
<t:body/>
</body>
</html>
package com.josh.tcontacts.components;
import org.apache.tapestry5.annotations.Import;
@Import(stylesheet={"context:css/style.css"})
public class Layout {
}
Here is my scenario.
I have learnt how to create pages and how to create the layout component.
Learning how to use the individual ready made tapestry components is not
going to be a problem since the component reference is quite good.
My main problem so far is to manage the layout and to compose pages. I am
used to decomposing my pages into components. E.g i can have the header
component, the menus component, the EditUser component e.tc. when ever i
want to create a new page, i can create the page and which will "inherit"
from the main layout but then be "Composed" of other components . You may
have suspected that i have worked with wicket before i decided to try
tapestry. I could create panels in wicket and compose other pages using the
panels. That way i never repeat any markup . Now i wanted to achieve the
same with tapestry and i know its possible. If i can be able to compose
pages, then working with the readily available components is not an issue.
Again , if i were to create each page and inherit the Layout, that wont be a
problem. How ever, i really need to be sure that i can split the markup into
various components and compose the pages as neccessary. I have read the book
by Kolesnikov but its referring mostly to tapestry 5.0 while there are major
features introduced in 5.2.x. So i used the book to learn the basic concepts
which i have understood. how ever, i wanted to learn the current stuff
regarding the UI components, annotations .e.t.c.
I hope you have a picture of my situation.
Again thanks alot for your help.
Regards.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo <
thiagohp@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:42:17 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I give up.
>>
>
> In my humble opinion, you're giving up too fast. In addition, your chosen
> path wasn't the best one. I think you should try to learn how to write pages
> and *use* components first. You should try to write your own components
> after learning how to use them. I'm a teacher and, by my experience, people
> learn more and faster when they're tackling one thing at a time, only moving
> forward when they've learned the previous studied object well.
>
>
> I cant get simple things to work and the scattered documentation is not
>> helping.
>>
>
> Tapestry's documentation is being rewritten at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TAPESTRY/Documentation.
>
>
> I will wait till the year when there will be a Tapestry5 in action book.
>>
>
> If you read German, Igor Drobiazko, one of the Tapestry commiters wrote
> one. As far as I know, he's in the process of translating it to English. If
> you read Portuguese, I wrote one too. :)
>
> --
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> Consultor, desenvolvedor e instrutor em Java, Tapestry e Hibernate
> Coordenador e professor da Especialização em Engenharia de Software com
> Ênfase em Java da Faculdade Pitágoras
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Re: i give up
Posted by "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <th...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:42:17 -0200, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I give up.
In my humble opinion, you're giving up too fast. In addition, your chosen
path wasn't the best one. I think you should try to learn how to write
pages and *use* components first. You should try to write your own
components after learning how to use them. I'm a teacher and, by my
experience, people learn more and faster when they're tackling one thing
at a time, only moving forward when they've learned the previous studied
object well.
> I cant get simple things to work and the scattered documentation is not
> helping.
Tapestry's documentation is being rewritten at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TAPESTRY/Documentation.
> I will wait till the year when there will be a Tapestry5 in action book.
If you read German, Igor Drobiazko, one of the Tapestry commiters wrote
one. As far as I know, he's in the process of translating it to English.
If you read Portuguese, I wrote one too. :)
--
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Consultor, desenvolvedor e instrutor em Java, Tapestry e Hibernate
Coordenador e professor da Especialização em Engenharia de Software com
Ênfase em Java da Faculdade Pitágoras
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Re: i give up
Posted by Sven Homburg <ho...@googlemail.com>.
i remember my early days wirth tapestry.
i was in the same situation as nearly most tapesty beginners, i "feel"
that tapestry is a big pitch
but i was far away from understanding the philosophy behind tapestry.
it was a stony way, without personal help and no books.
but since a few years (since Tapestry 5), i feel extremly well with tapestry.
i recommend you, stay on this road and take advantage of the community,
that is very fast an extremly polished
with regards
Sven Homburg
Founder of the Chenille Kit Project
http://chenillekit.codehaus.org
2010/11/6 Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>
>
> I give up. I cant get simple things to work and the scattered documentation
> is not helping . I will wait till the year when there will be a Tapestry5 in
> action book.
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