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Posted to users@netbeans.apache.org by "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com> on 2019/02/27 18:02:04 UTC

Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by Marc Collin <ma...@gmail.com>.
create a bat file ...

Le mar. 5 mars 2019 à 19:47, Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com> a écrit :

>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
>> I certainly can unzip the file.
>>
>> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
>> downloaded application.
>>
>> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
>> installer.
>>
>
> But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
>
> What are they afraid of?
>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
>> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
>> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
>> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
>> in the works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows
>> (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?
>>
>>

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>.
I feel your pain, but you currently have no options that won't result in
you violating your company policies.

Unless you want to research how to make an installer for Windows and
contribute that to Netbeans.

Does this daemon block running Java code that you write?

What if you write a command line tool that you launch with java -jar ? Does
that get blocked?

Because that is basically how you would start NetBeans from a zip download.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 20:03 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:

> Not JRE,
>
> Our company software certification program.
>
>
>
> *From: *Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
> Visa is paranoid about security.
>
> I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech
> governance approval and certification.
>
> There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
>
> Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
>
> I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to
> bypass certs
>
> Bypass certs?
>
> Do you mean certs in jre?
>
>
>
> by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
> I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
>
>
>
> *From: *Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
> I certainly can unzip the file.
>
> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
> downloaded application.
>
> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
> installer.
>
>
>
> But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
>
>
>
> What are they afraid of?
>
>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>
>
>
> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>
>
>
> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>
>

RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by "Thomson, Duncan" <du...@mitre.org>.
I would be very interested to hear why they insist on a windows installer.   What security advantages do they cite


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From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:34 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

I feel your pain, but you currently have no options that won't result in you violating your company policies.

Unless you want to research how to make an installer for Windows and contribute that to Netbeans.

Does this daemon block running Java code that you write?

What if you write a command line tool that you launch with java -jar ? Does that get blocked?

Because that is basically how you would start NetBeans from a zip download.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 20:03 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>.
Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by "Thomson, Duncan" <du...@mitre.org>.
Sorry that was meant to say: IMHO it’s a good thing to have a policy to ensure only trusted software is installed.  But deciding what to trust is not so easy.


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From: Thomson, Duncan <du...@mitre.org>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 9:39 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>, Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

IMHO it’s a good thing to h


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From: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by "Thomson, Duncan" <du...@mitre.org>.
IMHO it’s a good thing to h


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From: Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Not JRE,
Our company software certification program.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:

> Visa is paranoid about security.
>
> I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech
> governance approval and certification.
>
> There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
>
> Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
>
> I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to
> bypass certs
>
Bypass certs?
Do you mean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
> I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.
>
>
>
> *From: *Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:
>
> I certainly can unzip the file.
>
> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
> downloaded application.
>
> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
> installer.
>
>
>
> But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.
>
>
>
> What are they afraid of?
>
>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>
>
>
> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>
>
>
> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>
>

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>.
Visa is paranoid about security.
I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.
There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.
Certification group won’t accept software without installer.
I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to bypass certs by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine.
I wasn’t able to do it on Mac.

From: Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:

> I certainly can unzip the file.
>
> Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any
> downloaded application.
>
> I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without
> installer.
>

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.

What are they afraid of?

>
>
> *From: *Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
> *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+
>
>
>
> Yes, there’s a PR for that.
>
>
>
> No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.
>
>
>
> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>
>

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>.
I certainly can unzip the file.
Problem that due to company’s security constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.
I have to submit it for security assessment, but won’t accept it without installer.

From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <us...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com>> wrote:
Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by Chris Olsen <co...@mchsi.com>.
Mr. Wielenga --

> Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
> can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
> in the works.

  I actually might be able to respond to your thoughts, and I am far from a complete newbie.  I have been programming both as a hobby and in my profession (teacher and now professor) of statistics.  When I began teaching statistics in 1976 there was no such thing as statistical software for me to use in my classes.  Through those years of Basic, of C++, and now Java, I have been writing statistics programs to support my teaching.  When I accidentally read about the Java FX and its capabilities I began a project that I now have been working on for 5 years or so.  The easy installation of Java and Netbeans was wonderful for me -- my old Linux and DOS skills were severely atrophied!

  Now, I see Netbeans moving to Apache, FX separated from Java, a "new" (since Java 8) module orientation (?) that I need to learn about, and -- to my frustration -- no installation wizard.

  My lifeline to productivity in my day job, and I am involved with continuing projects which require an online presence; thus I approach with trepidation any task which would require my traveling back down to the system level.  If I were to in some way err and create problems with my system, I cannot easily or quickly recover.

  The directions (E.g. YouTube) I have seen online concerning installation (and presumably updating) of OpenJDK, FX, and Apache Netbeans are (a) not in complete agreement, and (b) do not seem to stop at simply unzipping a zip file and creating a shortcut.  Having said that, I must tip a hat to those who have offered up the directions; they are very clear and very helpful!!  And the discussion here since my very recent joining have been very illuminating and valuable.  

  But my forte is mathematics and statistics, not my C: drive.  I suspect my situation is somewhat unique, but it is at least an existence proof (as we say in mathematics) that an installation wizard is a wonderful thing to have available.

  Apologies for the length -- thank you and the rest of the Community for all the given and future help.

  -- Chris Olsen
     Grinnell College

  

----- Original Message -----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
To: Gary Greenberg <gg...@visa.com>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org
Sent: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 13:15:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:

> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>


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Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Yes, there’s a PR for that.

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed.

Personally though I don’t get why a developer, even a complete newbie,
can’t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is
in the works.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <gg...@visa.com> wrote:

> Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi)
> into Netbeans distribution?
>