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[users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

I have FormMail in a directory called CGI-Excutables directory. I 
have /cgi-bin/ alias to this directory as the default. I seem to have 
permissions set up properly but going to a virtual domain site like 
http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl

yields a permission error:
You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/FormMail.pl on this server.

Any ideas what I am missing here?
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Re: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by Alex Pilson <al...@flagshipinteractive.com>.
At 6:06 PM +0100 12/2/02, Sander Holthaus - Orange XL wrote:
>You should post some more info on your current configuration. Also, what
>does you error-log say? Your error-log will probably say exactly what the
>problem is.

I am going to look now.

>
>Off-topic but VERY IMPORTANT:
>  a) Certain versions of FormMail are exploitable. Are you sure you have the
>latest version?

Exactly my concern as well. This is for a client that doesn't want to 
pay for consultation, seem it would have been faster to re-code the 
form for PHP or Lasso now :). I normally use PHP or Lasso 5/6 for 
server-side stuff. I downloaded the latest one today from Matt.

>  b) If you are planning to use FormMail, rename it! There are many spambots
>who actively look for exploitable FormMail-scripts. EVEN if you have have a
>secure version of FormMail, all those exploitrequests to it will use
>valueble resources.

Great idea. Thanks! Very good information!
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Re: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by Sander Holthaus - Orange XL <in...@orangexl.com>.
You should post some more info on your current configuration. Also, what
does you error-log say? Your error-log will probably say exactly what the
problem is.

Off-topic but VERY IMPORTANT:
 a) Certain versions of FormMail are exploitable. Are you sure you have the
latest version?
 b) If you are planning to use FormMail, rename it! There are many spambots
who actively look for exploitable FormMail-scripts. EVEN if you have have a
secure version of FormMail, all those exploitrequests to it will use
valueble resources.

Kind Regards,
Sander Holthaus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Pilson" <al...@flagshipinteractive.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?


> I have FormMail in a directory called CGI-Excutables directory. I
> have /cgi-bin/ alias to this directory as the default. I seem to have
> permissions set up properly but going to a virtual domain site like
> http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl
>
> yields a permission error:
> You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/FormMail.pl on this server.
>
> Any ideas what I am missing here?
> --
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>      FlagShip Interactive, Inc.
>      alex@flagshipinteractive.com
>      404.728.4417
>      404.642.8225 CELL
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RE: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by Alex Pilson <al...@flagshipinteractive.com>.
At 11:20 AM -0600 12/2/02, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>At 09:53 AM 12.2.2002 -0700, Remo Mattei wrote:
>>I would not use formmail.pl you may want to check formmail.php a better
>>way to go I think. There are other php mailer that do not have the
>>security holes that formmail had.
>>
>>
>>Remo Mattei
>>Network Security Engineer
>>cell 801-209-8554
>>email remo@italy1.com
>>
>
>Where do you get the formmail.php....?? Is that Matt's too? And appreciate
>any URLs handy for the other phps.

http://www.kdg-42.com/~scripts/
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RE: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by Remo Mattei <re...@italy1.com>.
Have you looked at:
http://www.hotscripts.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/Form_Processors/more6
.html

hotscripts is a very good site.


Remo Mattei
Network Security Engineer
cell 801-209-8554
email remo@italy1.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack L. Stone [mailto:jackstone@sage-one.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:21 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org; users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

At 09:53 AM 12.2.2002 -0700, Remo Mattei wrote:
>I would not use formmail.pl you may want to check formmail.php a better
>way to go I think. There are other php mailer that do not have the
>security holes that formmail had.
>
>
>Remo Mattei
>Network Security Engineer
>cell 801-209-8554
>email remo@italy1.com
>

Where do you get the formmail.php....?? Is that Matt's too? And
appreciate
any URLs handy for the other phps.
Thanks!

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
jackstone@sage-one.net

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RE: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>.
At 09:53 AM 12.2.2002 -0700, Remo Mattei wrote:
>I would not use formmail.pl you may want to check formmail.php a better
>way to go I think. There are other php mailer that do not have the
>security holes that formmail had.
>
>
>Remo Mattei
>Network Security Engineer
>cell 801-209-8554
>email remo@italy1.com
>

Where do you get the formmail.php....?? Is that Matt's too? And appreciate
any URLs handy for the other phps.
Thanks!

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
jackstone@sage-one.net

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RE: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by Remo Mattei <re...@italy1.com>.
I would not use formmail.pl you may want to check formmail.php a better
way to go I think. There are other php mailer that do not have the
security holes that formmail had.


Remo Mattei
Network Security Engineer
cell 801-209-8554
email remo@italy1.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Pilson [mailto:alex@flagshipinteractive.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:43 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

At 10:39 AM -0600 12/2/02, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>At 11:34 AM 12.2.2002 -0500, Alex Pilson wrote:
>>I have FormMail in a directory called CGI-Excutables directory. I
>>have /cgi-bin/ alias to this directory as the default. I seem to have
>>permissions set up properly but going to a virtual domain site like
>>http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl
>>
>>yields a permission error:
>>You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/FormMail.pl on this
server.
>>
>>Any ideas what I am missing here?
>>--
>><--------------------------------------------------------------->
>>      Alex Pilson
>
>Have you configured formmail.pl itself as authorized domain...?? ...and
>there is a recipient line as well. Both tell formmail.pl it's okay for
>those and those only.....

Yep. I will double check it. BUT it seems that the error is not from 
formmail but from Apache itself.
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Re: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by Alex Pilson <al...@flagshipinteractive.com>.
At 10:39 AM -0600 12/2/02, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>At 11:34 AM 12.2.2002 -0500, Alex Pilson wrote:
>>I have FormMail in a directory called CGI-Excutables directory. I
>>have /cgi-bin/ alias to this directory as the default. I seem to have
>>permissions set up properly but going to a virtual domain site like
>>http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl
>>
>>yields a permission error:
>>You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/FormMail.pl on this server.
>>
>>Any ideas what I am missing here?
>>--
>><--------------------------------------------------------------->
>>      Alex Pilson
>
>Have you configured formmail.pl itself as authorized domain...?? ...and
>there is a recipient line as well. Both tell formmail.pl it's okay for
>those and those only.....

Yep. I will double check it. BUT it seems that the error is not from 
formmail but from Apache itself.
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     FlagShip Interactive, Inc.
     alex@flagshipinteractive.com
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Re: [users@httpd] FormMail.pl / cgi-bin?

Posted by "Jack L. Stone" <ja...@sage-one.net>.
At 11:34 AM 12.2.2002 -0500, Alex Pilson wrote:
>I have FormMail in a directory called CGI-Excutables directory. I 
>have /cgi-bin/ alias to this directory as the default. I seem to have 
>permissions set up properly but going to a virtual domain site like 
>http://www.mydomain.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl
>
>yields a permission error:
>You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/FormMail.pl on this server.
>
>Any ideas what I am missing here?
>-- 
><--------------------------------------------------------------->
>     Alex Pilson

Have you configured formmail.pl itself as authorized domain...?? ...and
there is a recipient line as well. Both tell formmail.pl it's okay for
those and those only.....

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
jackstone@sage-one.net

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