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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> on 2017/06/20 06:27:25 UTC
"Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who we
have a 'Status' column where we instruct people to add 'Need Vote' if
they want to become a committer.
This goes against my understanding of the current Apache process where
people should first get involved and show contributions before being
considered externally for a vote.
So I suggest we either remove that column or replace it with 'Apache
Hat' or something where we could use: 'Mentor / commiter / (p)pmc
member / contributor / user" or similar.
--emi
Re: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Yup.
Gj
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017, Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who we
> have a 'Status' column where we instruct people to add 'Need Vote' if
> they want to become a committer.
>
> This goes against my understanding of the current Apache process where
> people should first get involved and show contributions before being
> considered externally for a vote.
>
> So I suggest we either remove that column or replace it with 'Apache
> Hat' or something where we could use: 'Mentor / commiter / (p)pmc
> member / contributor / user" or similar.
>
> --emi
>
Re: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.
I've change the
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who
column to roles and left only Committer / Mentor in there. Everything
else is empty.
--emi
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Sounds good.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've already removed the paragraph from "How to Participate" about the
>> "Need vote" label.
>>
>> Personally I wouldn't mind if we remove the column altogether. Having
>> too many categories also introduces a block for new users wanting to
>> fill the table perhaps.
>>
>> I think a better name would be 'Roles' for that column. Then it makes
>> sense to see 'Mentor' or 'Committer' there while everybody else will
>> just leave it empty.
>>
>> --emi
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Cezariusz Marek
>> <ce...@comarch.pl> wrote:
>> > Yes, it's misleading. The page "How to Participate" says to put "Need
>> vote" there, but someone from Apache changed it to "Interested". Now we
>> have a mix, but none of the values is really useful (apart from committers
>> of course). I like the Emilian's idea to replace it with the suggested
>> values.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cezariusz Marek
>> > Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
>> > Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Emilian Bold [mailto:emilian.bold@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:27 AM
>> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
>> >
>> > On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who we
>> have a 'Status' column where we instruct people to add 'Need Vote' if they
>> want to become a committer.
>> >
>> > This goes against my understanding of the current Apache process where
>> people should first get involved and show contributions before being
>> considered externally for a vote.
>> >
>> > So I suggest we either remove that column or replace it with 'Apache
>> Hat' or something where we could use: 'Mentor / commiter / (p)pmc member /
>> contributor / user" or similar.
>> >
>> > --emi
>> >
>>
Re: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Sounds good.
Gj
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I've already removed the paragraph from "How to Participate" about the
> "Need vote" label.
>
> Personally I wouldn't mind if we remove the column altogether. Having
> too many categories also introduces a block for new users wanting to
> fill the table perhaps.
>
> I think a better name would be 'Roles' for that column. Then it makes
> sense to see 'Mentor' or 'Committer' there while everybody else will
> just leave it empty.
>
> --emi
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Cezariusz Marek
> <ce...@comarch.pl> wrote:
> > Yes, it's misleading. The page "How to Participate" says to put "Need
> vote" there, but someone from Apache changed it to "Interested". Now we
> have a mix, but none of the values is really useful (apart from committers
> of course). I like the Emilian's idea to replace it with the suggested
> values.
> >
> > --
> > Cezariusz Marek
> > Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
> > Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Emilian Bold [mailto:emilian.bold@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:27 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
> >
> > On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who we
> have a 'Status' column where we instruct people to add 'Need Vote' if they
> want to become a committer.
> >
> > This goes against my understanding of the current Apache process where
> people should first get involved and show contributions before being
> considered externally for a vote.
> >
> > So I suggest we either remove that column or replace it with 'Apache
> Hat' or something where we could use: 'Mentor / commiter / (p)pmc member /
> contributor / user" or similar.
> >
> > --emi
> >
>
Re: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.
I've already removed the paragraph from "How to Participate" about the
"Need vote" label.
Personally I wouldn't mind if we remove the column altogether. Having
too many categories also introduces a block for new users wanting to
fill the table perhaps.
I think a better name would be 'Roles' for that column. Then it makes
sense to see 'Mentor' or 'Committer' there while everybody else will
just leave it empty.
--emi
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Cezariusz Marek
<ce...@comarch.pl> wrote:
> Yes, it's misleading. The page "How to Participate" says to put "Need vote" there, but someone from Apache changed it to "Interested". Now we have a mix, but none of the values is really useful (apart from committers of course). I like the Emilian's idea to replace it with the suggested values.
>
> --
> Cezariusz Marek
> Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
> Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emilian Bold [mailto:emilian.bold@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:27 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
>
> On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who we have a 'Status' column where we instruct people to add 'Need Vote' if they want to become a committer.
>
> This goes against my understanding of the current Apache process where people should first get involved and show contributions before being considered externally for a vote.
>
> So I suggest we either remove that column or replace it with 'Apache Hat' or something where we could use: 'Mentor / commiter / (p)pmc member / contributor / user" or similar.
>
> --emi
>
RE: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
Posted by Cezariusz Marek <ce...@comarch.pl>.
Yes, it's misleading. The page "How to Participate" says to put "Need vote" there, but someone from Apache changed it to "Interested". Now we have a mix, but none of the values is really useful (apart from committers of course). I like the Emilian's idea to replace it with the suggested values.
--
Cezariusz Marek
Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
-----Original Message-----
From: Emilian Bold [mailto:emilian.bold@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:27 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: "Need vode" should not be used on Who's Who page
On https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who we have a 'Status' column where we instruct people to add 'Need Vote' if they want to become a committer.
This goes against my understanding of the current Apache process where people should first get involved and show contributions before being considered externally for a vote.
So I suggest we either remove that column or replace it with 'Apache Hat' or something where we could use: 'Mentor / commiter / (p)pmc member / contributor / user" or similar.
--emi