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[VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.

The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]

To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.

I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.

The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html 

The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Anders Hammar <an...@hammar.net>.

+1

/Anders

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:54 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by gaurav <ga...@gmail.com>.

+1

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:20 AM Tushar Kapila <tg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 can be a separate project if anyone wants to pursue it.
>
> On Wed, 29 May, 2019, 09:38 Bernd Prager, <be...@prager.ws> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On 29/5/62 01:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> > small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> > missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including
> > our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> > subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> > >
> > > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> > based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014.
> Due
> > to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> > sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> > https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> > >
> > > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within
> Maven;
> > that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> > >
> > > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> > >
> > > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> > update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> > >
> > > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> > >
> > > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > > [ ] -1 No, because...
> > --
> > Bernd Prager
> >
> > Mobile: +66.91.770.5758
> > Skype: bernd.prager@outlook.com
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Tushar Kapila <tg...@gmail.com>.

+1 can be a separate project if anyone wants to pursue it.

On Wed, 29 May, 2019, 09:38 Bernd Prager, <be...@prager.ws> wrote:

> +1
>
> On 29/5/62 01:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
> --
> Bernd Prager
>
> Mobile: +66.91.770.5758
> Skype: bernd.prager@outlook.com
> PGP Public
> Key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBDA6C225628DB3CD
> PGP Fingerprint: 0AA3 952C F211 E98A CD18 9E55 BDA6 C225 628D B3CD
>
>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Bernd Prager <be...@prager.ws>.

+1

On 29/5/62 01:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html 
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Bruno Borges <br...@gmail.com>.

Non-binding vote: +1



On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:55 AM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.

Whaouuu it's still here !!!
+1

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:51 PM Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +100 from me...
>
> Kind regard
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
> On 28.05.19 20:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Arnaud Héritier <ah...@gmail.com>.

Whaouuu it's still here !!!
+1

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:51 PM Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +100 from me...
>
> Kind regard
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
> On 28.05.19 20:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.

Hi,

+100 from me...

Kind regard
Karl Heinz Marbaise

On 28.05.19 20:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Bruno Borges <br...@gmail.com>.

Non-binding vote: +1



On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:55 AM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by je...@udby.com.

Hi!

+1 - about time! :-)

Cheers

Jesper

On 28.05.2019 20:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to
> the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain
> we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these
> projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s)
> of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> 
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December
> 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think
> it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files
> to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/
> [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> 
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within
> Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> 
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> 
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> 
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html 
> 
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

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[RESULT] [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.

Hi,

The vote has passed with the following result:

+1 (or more): Bruno Borges, Jesper Udby, Anders Hammar, Tibor Digana, Enrico Olivelli, Manfred Moser, Karl Heinz Marbaise, Olivier Lamy, Sylwester Lachiewicz, Stephen Connolly, James Gough, Gabriel Belingueres, Hoa Phan, Robert Scholte

PMC quorum: reached

I will continue with the steps required to retire this plugin.

On 28-5-2019 20:54:53, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.

The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]

To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.

I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.

The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html

The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.

Hi,

+100 from me...

Kind regard
Karl Heinz Marbaise

On 28.05.19 20:54, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Sylwester Lachiewicz <sl...@gmail.com>.

+1
Sylwester

W dniu śr., 29.05.2019 o 01:03 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> napisał(a):

> +1
>
> On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 04:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> > small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> > missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including
> > our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> > and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> > based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014.
> Due
> > to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> > sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> > https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> > that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> > update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
>
>
>
> --
> Olivier Lamy
> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.

+1

On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 04:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...



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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by James Gough <jp...@gmail.com>.

+1

On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 19:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.

+1


On 28-5-2019 20:54:53, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.

The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]

To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.

I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.

The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html 

The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.

+1

On Tue 28 May 2019 at 19:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by James Gough <jp...@gmail.com>.

+1

On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 19:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>.

+1 ( non binding )

Enrico

Il mar 28 mag 2019, 21:43 Tibor Digana <ti...@apache.org> ha scritto:

> +1
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:55 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> > small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> > missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including
> > our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> > and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> > based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014.
> Due
> > to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> > sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> > https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> > that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> > update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
>

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>.

+1 ( non binding )

Enrico

Il mar 28 mag 2019, 21:43 Tibor Digana <ti...@apache.org> ha scritto:

> +1
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:55 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> > small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> > missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including
> > our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> > and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> > based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014.
> Due
> > to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> > sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> > https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> > that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> > update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
>

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Tibor Digana <ti...@apache.org>.

+1

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:55 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Anders Hammar <an...@hammar.net>.

+1

/Anders

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:54 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Tibor Digana <ti...@apache.org>.

+1

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:55 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

[RESULT] [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.

Hi,

The vote has passed with the following result:

PMC quorum: reached

I will continue with the steps required to retire this plugin.

On 28-5-2019 20:54:53, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,

To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's the maven-antrun-plugin.

I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update the documentation and freeze the codebase.

The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html

The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Manfred Moser <ma...@simpligility.com>.

Somewhere between +5 and +10 ;-)

Robert Scholte wrote on 2019-05-28 11:54:

> Hi,
> 
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the small
> number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're missing
> enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including our
> ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects and
> decide if it is worth maintaining.
> 
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files based on
> a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due to the
> different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/
> [https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> 
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven; that's
> the maven-antrun-plugin.
> 
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> 
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should update
> the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> 
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html 
> 
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...


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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Hoa Phan <s5...@gmail.com>.

+1 it's the right thing to do.

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:51 AM Gabriel Belingueres <be...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1
>
> Regards
> Gabriel
>
> El mar., 28 de may. de 2019 15:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
> escribió:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> > small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> > missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including
> > our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> > and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> > based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014.
> Due
> > to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> > sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> > See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> > https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
> >
> > To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> > that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> > update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
>

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Gabriel Belingueres <be...@gmail.com>.

+1

Regards
Gabriel

El mar., 28 de may. de 2019 15:54, Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Ant Plugin

Posted by Alexius Diakogiannis <al...@gmail.com>.

+1

On Tue, 28 May 2019, 21:54 Robert Scholte, <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 100 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, including
> our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> The goal of the Apache Maven Ant Plugin it to generate Ant build files
> based on a pom.xml and was released for the last time in December 2014. Due
> to the different ways that Ant and Maven work I don't think it makes
> sense anymore to maintain a plugin to transform Maven files to Ant.
> See https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/ [
> https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ant-plugin/]
>
> To be clear, this is NOT the plugin you can use to run Ant within Maven;
> that's the maven-antrun-plugin.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-ant-plugin.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...