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Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Hi All,

Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server that
is not an application server?

Thanks!

YuLing Chen

EEU SW EMS group
Santa Clara, CA
email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
Direct: 408-970-2145


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RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com>.
 
Hi Hemant,

Thanks a lot for the quick reply. I think I didn't phrase my question
correctly. I meant if I can deploy a web service(service provider) even
outside a web server. I only have a server that's based on legacy
client/server technology, which means it was not a web server nor an
application server.

Thanks!

YuLing Chen

EEU SW EMS group
Santa Clara, CA
email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
Direct: 408-970-2145

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From: Hemant Borole [mailto:hemantborole@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:48 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an
application server

Yes, you just need a web server. Or if your web service is serving just
static pages ( no servlets etc ) then just a plain http server is also
enough.
By the way a lot depends on what type of web service you want to
provide.
You also have option of coding your own cgi scripts on http server



On 5/20/08, Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server 
> that is not an application server?
>
> Thanks!
>
> YuLing Chen
>
> EEU SW EMS group
> Santa Clara, CA
> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> Direct: 408-970-2145
>
>
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Re: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by Hemant Borole <he...@gmail.com>.
Yes, you just need a web server. Or if your web service is serving
just static pages ( no servlets etc ) then just a plain http server is
also enough.
By the way a lot depends on what type of web service you want to provide.
You also have option of coding your own cgi scripts on http server



On 5/20/08, Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server that
> is not an application server?
>
> Thanks!
>
> YuLing Chen
>
> EEU SW EMS group
> Santa Clara, CA
> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> Direct: 408-970-2145
>
>
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RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com>.
 
Thanks a lot for all the information, which was very helpful.

I eventually found an article online: JAX-WS Web Services Without Java
EE Containers
http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2007/07/03/jax-ws-web-services-without
-ee-containers.html


I think this will solve my problem. Share with you all here just in case
anyone needs to solve similar problems.

Thanks!

YuLing Chen

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Hemant Borole [mailto:hemantborole@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:44 AM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an
application server

Back to basics. Web service is any service that can be provided over
web, meaning via the http protocol. So it even need not be SOAP. (Soap
is a layer over http). So if you build anything that can handle http
requests, that could be as good as a web service. (I haven't heard of
any "web" service over bare TCP/IP).
So if you have a legacy client / server app that is able to listen to
http then you can add web services to your app.



On 5/21/08, WJ Krpelan <kr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi
> in principle you just need a http:-server which has access to a 
> webservice-engine, that is a xml-serialization and 
> deserialization-program which knows how to handle SOAP-messages.
>
> in practice you will have to use one of the standard solutions 
> available, be it in java, dotnet or elsewhere.
> Cheers
>
> --- Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Pudur,
>>
>> I think this article also requires a Tomcat...which we wouldn't 
>> really like to do.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> YuLing Chen
>>
>> EEU SW EMS group
>> Santa Clara, CA
>> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
>> Direct: 408-970-2145
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ramaswamy, Pudur
>> [mailto:puramaswamy@paypal.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:45 PM
>> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an

>> application server
>>
>> Can this answer your question?
>> http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_1_1/pojoguide.html
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -pudur
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yuling Chen [mailto:yuling.chen@ericsson.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:40 PM
>> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>> Subject: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an 
>> application server
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server 
>> that is not an application server?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> YuLing Chen
>>
>> EEU SW EMS group
>> Santa Clara, CA
>> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
>> Direct: 408-970-2145
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by WJ Krpelan <kr...@yahoo.com>.
Hi
Further back to basics, it need not even be http but
could use any protocol.
Seen this way, web services exist from the beginning
of creation.
Doubt however that this has any use as an answer for
deployment questions.
Cheers
--- Hemant Borole <he...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Back to basics. Web service is any service that can
> be provided over
> web, meaning via the http protocol. So it even need
> not be SOAP. (Soap
> is a layer over http). So if you build anything that
> can handle http
> requests, that could be as good as a web service. (I
> haven't heard of
> any "web" service over bare TCP/IP).
> So if you have a legacy client / server app that is
> able to listen to
> http then you can add web services to your app.
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/21/08, WJ Krpelan <kr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> > in principle you just need a http:-server which
> has
> > access to a webservice-engine, that is a
> > xml-serialization and deserialization-program
> which
> > knows how to handle SOAP-messages.
> >
> > in practice you will have to use one of the
> standard
> > solutions available, be it in java, dotnet or
> > elsewhere.
> > Cheers
> >
> > --- Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Pudur,
> >>
> >> I think this article also requires a
> Tomcat...which
> >> we wouldn't really
> >> like to do.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> YuLing Chen
> >>
> >> EEU SW EMS group
> >> Santa Clara, CA
> >> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> >> Direct: 408-970-2145
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ramaswamy, Pudur
> >> [mailto:puramaswamy@paypal.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:45 PM
> >> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: Can a web service be deployed on a
> >> server that is not an
> >> application server
> >>
> >> Can this answer your question?
> >> http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_1_1/pojoguide.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -pudur
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Yuling Chen
> [mailto:yuling.chen@ericsson.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:40 PM
> >> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> >> Subject: Can a web service be deployed on a
> server
> >> that is not an
> >> application server
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know that if a web service can be
> >> deployed on a server that
> >> is not an application server?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> YuLing Chen
> >>
> >> EEU SW EMS group
> >> Santa Clara, CA
> >> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> >> Direct: 408-970-2145
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by Hemant Borole <he...@gmail.com>.
Back to basics. Web service is any service that can be provided over
web, meaning via the http protocol. So it even need not be SOAP. (Soap
is a layer over http). So if you build anything that can handle http
requests, that could be as good as a web service. (I haven't heard of
any "web" service over bare TCP/IP).
So if you have a legacy client / server app that is able to listen to
http then you can add web services to your app.



On 5/21/08, WJ Krpelan <kr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi
> in principle you just need a http:-server which has
> access to a webservice-engine, that is a
> xml-serialization and deserialization-program which
> knows how to handle SOAP-messages.
>
> in practice you will have to use one of the standard
> solutions available, be it in java, dotnet or
> elsewhere.
> Cheers
>
> --- Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Pudur,
>>
>> I think this article also requires a Tomcat...which
>> we wouldn't really
>> like to do.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> YuLing Chen
>>
>> EEU SW EMS group
>> Santa Clara, CA
>> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
>> Direct: 408-970-2145
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ramaswamy, Pudur
>> [mailto:puramaswamy@paypal.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:45 PM
>> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Can a web service be deployed on a
>> server that is not an
>> application server
>>
>> Can this answer your question?
>> http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_1_1/pojoguide.html
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -pudur
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yuling Chen [mailto:yuling.chen@ericsson.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:40 PM
>> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>> Subject: Can a web service be deployed on a server
>> that is not an
>> application server
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Does anyone know that if a web service can be
>> deployed on a server that
>> is not an application server?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> YuLing Chen
>>
>> EEU SW EMS group
>> Santa Clara, CA
>> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
>> Direct: 408-970-2145
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by WJ Krpelan <kr...@yahoo.com>.
Hi
in principle you just need a http:-server which has
access to a webservice-engine, that is a
xml-serialization and deserialization-program which
knows how to handle SOAP-messages.

in practice you will have to use one of the standard
solutions available, be it in java, dotnet or
elsewhere.
Cheers

--- Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:

>  
> Hi Pudur,
> 
> I think this article also requires a Tomcat...which
> we wouldn't really
> like to do. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> YuLing Chen
> 
> EEU SW EMS group
> Santa Clara, CA
> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> Direct: 408-970-2145
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramaswamy, Pudur
> [mailto:puramaswamy@paypal.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:45 PM
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Can a web service be deployed on a
> server that is not an
> application server
> 
> Can this answer your question?
> http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_1_1/pojoguide.html
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> -pudur
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yuling Chen [mailto:yuling.chen@ericsson.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:40 PM
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: Can a web service be deployed on a server
> that is not an
> application server
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Does anyone know that if a web service can be
> deployed on a server that
> is not an application server?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> YuLing Chen
> 
> EEU SW EMS group
> Santa Clara, CA
> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> Direct: 408-970-2145
> 
> 
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RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com>.
 
Hi Pudur,

I think this article also requires a Tomcat...which we wouldn't really
like to do. 

Thanks!

YuLing Chen

EEU SW EMS group
Santa Clara, CA
email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
Direct: 408-970-2145

-----Original Message-----
From: Ramaswamy, Pudur [mailto:puramaswamy@paypal.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:45 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an
application server

Can this answer your question?
http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_1_1/pojoguide.html


Thanks,
-pudur

-----Original Message-----
From: Yuling Chen [mailto:yuling.chen@ericsson.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:40 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an
application server

Hi All,

Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server that
is not an application server?

Thanks!

YuLing Chen

EEU SW EMS group
Santa Clara, CA
email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
Direct: 408-970-2145


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RE: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by "Ramaswamy, Pudur" <pu...@paypal.com>.
Can this answer your question?
http://ws.apache.org/axis2/1_1_1/pojoguide.html


Thanks,
-pudur

-----Original Message-----
From: Yuling Chen [mailto:yuling.chen@ericsson.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:40 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an
application server

Hi All,

Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server that
is not an application server?

Thanks!

YuLing Chen

EEU SW EMS group
Santa Clara, CA
email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
Direct: 408-970-2145


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Re: Can a web service be deployed on a server that is not an application server

Posted by Paul Fremantle <pz...@gmail.com>.
Axis2 includes its own built in lightweight server and you can run it
inside any Java process.

So yes!

Paul

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Yuling Chen <yu...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know that if a web service can be deployed on a server that
> is not an application server?
>
> Thanks!
>
> YuLing Chen
>
> EEU SW EMS group
> Santa Clara, CA
> email: yuling.chen@ericsson.com
> Direct: 408-970-2145
>
>
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