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Posted to user@turbine.apache.org by Gerry Duprey <gd...@Schools-OPEN.com> on 2004/01/19 18:20:46 UTC
Which modules work with Turbine 2.3
Howdy,
Now that building furlcrumis working well, a few questions about the services
Fulcrum provides and Turbine 2.3
In particular, which services can I use with Turbine 2.3 in a "replacement of
Turbine functionality" means (i.e. override a supplied service)?
Also, there are a lot of Fulcrum jars - can I just pick the ones I want to use
with Turbine or are there some "mandatories" in there?
Thanks!
Gerry
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RE: Turbine, Fulcrum & Security
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@upstate.com>.
Gerry,
I think you are seeing a 2.3 cleaned up in 2.4 artifact! If you look at the
2.4 cvs, you will notice the main project doesn't have any torque code.
However, for things to compile in 2.3, torque.jar is requried. Don't worry,
you can leave the jar in there, and when 2.4 releases, just remove it!
Let me know if you need any more help!
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:gduprey@Schools-OPEN.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:28 PM
> To: Turbine Users List
> Subject: Turbine, Fulcrum & Security
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> I've installed the values from the various test cases for the
> Fulcrum security
> stuff into my Turbine.properties using the Basic service
> samples and created
> the two role and component config files. After some work,
> Turbine and Avalon
> seem to get along reasonably well (enough for Turbine to
> finish initializing).
>
> However, when I send a request into Turbine, I get a response
> back like:
>
> Horrible Exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> org/apache/torque/om/BaseObject
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
>
> It was my understanding from reading the test case code that
> you were using
> the in-memory security model. I kept those values as is, so
> I'm not sure why
> Turbine is trying to load a "BaseObject" from Torque (I have
> no remaining
> Torque references that I've put in).
>
> If I put torque.jar into my lib/ directory, things work, but
> I thought that
> using the Fulcrum stuff removed the direct need for Torque.
> Is there some
> part that needs to be configured to remove the references or
> is this just
> "something in 2.3" that won't be cleaned out until 2.4 is done?
>
> I'm really just trying to make sure I'm not creating
> accidental dependencies
> on Torque.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gerry
>
>
> Eric Pugh wrote:
> > It depends (of course!)...
> >
> > Turbine 2.3 was based around decoupling Torque and adding the
> > AvalonComponentService. As part of this, many "services"
> where spun off
> > into Fulcrum. The criteria was that is a "service" was
> generally useful
> > outside of Turbine, then put it in Fulcrum. If a service
> (like RunData) was
> > Turbine specific, then keep it in Turbine. However, part
> of the rules of
> > deprecatation are that until Turbine 2.4 is released, the
> code moved from
> > Turbine to Fulcrum can not be deleted from the Turbine 2.3
> repo. Indeed,
> > Turbine 2.3 uses the old versions.
> >
> > However, if you look at the code in CVS head that will be
> released as 2.4.
> > And in 2.4 we are using various components from Fulcrum.
> Look at the
> > project.xml[1] to see the fulcrum jars.
> >
> > Now, if you are using Turbine 2.3 and want to roll in the
> Fulcrum Security
> > stuff, then in that case you want to look at the config
> files in the unit
> > test for the 2.3 Turbine -> Security Adapter [2]. This
> shows how you
> > include the components in Turbine 2.3 [3] as well as all
> the config data you
> > can delete from a default 2.3 TurbineResources.properties file.
> >
> > Eric Pugh
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-2/project.xml
> > [2]
> >
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/secu
> rity/adapters/
> > turbine/src/test/AdapterTestTurbineResources.properties
> > [3]
> >
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/secu
> rity/adapters/
> > turbine/src/test/
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:gduprey@Schools-OPEN.com]
> >>Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:21 PM
> >>To: turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>Subject: Which modules work with Turbine 2.3
> >>
> >>
> >>Howdy,
> >>
> >>Now that building furlcrumis working well, a few questions
> >>about the services
> >>Fulcrum provides and Turbine 2.3
> >>
> >>In particular, which services can I use with Turbine 2.3 in a
> >>"replacement of
> >>Turbine functionality" means (i.e. override a supplied service)?
> >>
> >>Also, there are a lot of Fulcrum jars - can I just pick the
> >>ones I want to use
> >>with Turbine or are there some "mandatories" in there?
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Gerry
> >>--
> >>Gerry Duprey
> >>________________________________________
> >>SchoolsOPEN, LLC
> >>123 North Ashley, Suite 120
> >>Ann Arbor, MI 48104
> >>Phone (877) 483-1944 Ext. 401
> >>Fax (734) 661-0819
> >>
> >>Visit us Online at www.Schools-OPEN.com
> >>
> >>
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> 123 North Ashley, Suite 120
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104
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> Fax (734) 661-0819
>
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Turbine, Fulcrum & Security
Posted by Gerry Duprey <gd...@Schools-OPEN.com>.
Howdy,
I've installed the values from the various test cases for the Fulcrum security
stuff into my Turbine.properties using the Basic service samples and created
the two role and component config files. After some work, Turbine and Avalon
seem to get along reasonably well (enough for Turbine to finish initializing).
However, when I send a request into Turbine, I get a response back like:
Horrible Exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/torque/om/BaseObject
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
It was my understanding from reading the test case code that you were using
the in-memory security model. I kept those values as is, so I'm not sure why
Turbine is trying to load a "BaseObject" from Torque (I have no remaining
Torque references that I've put in).
If I put torque.jar into my lib/ directory, things work, but I thought that
using the Fulcrum stuff removed the direct need for Torque. Is there some
part that needs to be configured to remove the references or is this just
"something in 2.3" that won't be cleaned out until 2.4 is done?
I'm really just trying to make sure I'm not creating accidental dependencies
on Torque.
Thanks!
Gerry
Eric Pugh wrote:
> It depends (of course!)...
>
> Turbine 2.3 was based around decoupling Torque and adding the
> AvalonComponentService. As part of this, many "services" where spun off
> into Fulcrum. The criteria was that is a "service" was generally useful
> outside of Turbine, then put it in Fulcrum. If a service (like RunData) was
> Turbine specific, then keep it in Turbine. However, part of the rules of
> deprecatation are that until Turbine 2.4 is released, the code moved from
> Turbine to Fulcrum can not be deleted from the Turbine 2.3 repo. Indeed,
> Turbine 2.3 uses the old versions.
>
> However, if you look at the code in CVS head that will be released as 2.4.
> And in 2.4 we are using various components from Fulcrum. Look at the
> project.xml[1] to see the fulcrum jars.
>
> Now, if you are using Turbine 2.3 and want to roll in the Fulcrum Security
> stuff, then in that case you want to look at the config files in the unit
> test for the 2.3 Turbine -> Security Adapter [2]. This shows how you
> include the components in Turbine 2.3 [3] as well as all the config data you
> can delete from a default 2.3 TurbineResources.properties file.
>
> Eric Pugh
>
>
>
> [1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-2/project.xml
> [2]
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/security/adapters/
> turbine/src/test/AdapterTestTurbineResources.properties
> [3]
> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/security/adapters/
> turbine/src/test/
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:gduprey@Schools-OPEN.com]
>>Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:21 PM
>>To: turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: Which modules work with Turbine 2.3
>>
>>
>>Howdy,
>>
>>Now that building furlcrumis working well, a few questions
>>about the services
>>Fulcrum provides and Turbine 2.3
>>
>>In particular, which services can I use with Turbine 2.3 in a
>>"replacement of
>>Turbine functionality" means (i.e. override a supplied service)?
>>
>>Also, there are a lot of Fulcrum jars - can I just pick the
>>ones I want to use
>>with Turbine or are there some "mandatories" in there?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Gerry
>>--
>>Gerry Duprey
>>________________________________________
>>SchoolsOPEN, LLC
>>123 North Ashley, Suite 120
>>Ann Arbor, MI 48104
>>Phone (877) 483-1944 Ext. 401
>>Fax (734) 661-0819
>>
>>Visit us Online at www.Schools-OPEN.com
>>
>>
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>
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RE: Which modules work with Turbine 2.3
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@upstate.com>.
It depends (of course!)...
Turbine 2.3 was based around decoupling Torque and adding the
AvalonComponentService. As part of this, many "services" where spun off
into Fulcrum. The criteria was that is a "service" was generally useful
outside of Turbine, then put it in Fulcrum. If a service (like RunData) was
Turbine specific, then keep it in Turbine. However, part of the rules of
deprecatation are that until Turbine 2.4 is released, the code moved from
Turbine to Fulcrum can not be deleted from the Turbine 2.3 repo. Indeed,
Turbine 2.3 uses the old versions.
However, if you look at the code in CVS head that will be released as 2.4.
And in 2.4 we are using various components from Fulcrum. Look at the
project.xml[1] to see the fulcrum jars.
Now, if you are using Turbine 2.3 and want to roll in the Fulcrum Security
stuff, then in that case you want to look at the config files in the unit
test for the 2.3 Turbine -> Security Adapter [2]. This shows how you
include the components in Turbine 2.3 [3] as well as all the config data you
can delete from a default 2.3 TurbineResources.properties file.
Eric Pugh
[1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-2/project.xml
[2]
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/security/adapters/
turbine/src/test/AdapterTestTurbineResources.properties
[3]
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-turbine-fulcrum/security/adapters/
turbine/src/test/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Duprey [mailto:gduprey@Schools-OPEN.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:21 PM
> To: turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Which modules work with Turbine 2.3
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> Now that building furlcrumis working well, a few questions
> about the services
> Fulcrum provides and Turbine 2.3
>
> In particular, which services can I use with Turbine 2.3 in a
> "replacement of
> Turbine functionality" means (i.e. override a supplied service)?
>
> Also, there are a lot of Fulcrum jars - can I just pick the
> ones I want to use
> with Turbine or are there some "mandatories" in there?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gerry
> --
> Gerry Duprey
> ________________________________________
> SchoolsOPEN, LLC
> 123 North Ashley, Suite 120
> Ann Arbor, MI 48104
> Phone (877) 483-1944 Ext. 401
> Fax (734) 661-0819
>
> Visit us Online at www.Schools-OPEN.com
>
>
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