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Posted to user@vcl.apache.org by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> on 2013/12/17 17:06:01 UTC

choppy sound

Hello,

I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems to
come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone
experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've
tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as the
video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is
appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank
You.

David DeMizio
*Academic Systems Coordinator*
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu

Re: [VCL] ImageCheckOut permission

Posted by Josh Thompson <jo...@ncsu.edu>.
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Vincent,

The Block Allocations page looks different to users that do not have the 
"Manage Block Allocations" user group permission (accessed via Privileges page 
under the "Additional User Permissions" tab).  For users without that 
permission, the page only allows them to request a Block Allocation that then 
must be approved by an admin that does have the additional permission.  Here 
at NCSU, we've very rarely had a user submit a request for a Block Allocation 
where the user did not really need it.  So, we've found it is okay for 
everyone to have the permission to request them.  You can simply deny the 
request in cases where it is not really needed.

The User Lookup link only shows up for users with the "User Lookup" user group 
permission.  If your normal users are seeing the link, then they are in a user 
group that has this permission.  You can use the User Lookup page to look up 
the user group membership for one of the users.  Then, look at what additional 
permissions each of those user groups has.

The Documentation link points to the URL defined as DOCUMENTATIONURL in the 
conf.php file.  You can make that point wherever you want.  If you really 
don't want it displayed, you can comment it out for all users in the utils.php 
file.  You would comment out the following 3 lines that are toward the bottom 
of the getNavMenu function:

   $rt .= menulistLI('codeDocumentation');
   $rt .= "<a href=\"" . DOCUMENTATIONURL . "\">";
   $rt .= _("Documentation</a></li>\n");


Josh

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:51:44 AM Vincent YA Chen wrote:
> Dears 
> 
> I grant the imagecheckout  permission to my general users ,but I want 
> those users can make a reservation only, is it possible to hide below 
> items ?
> 
> Block Allcations
> User Lookup
> Documentation
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> Vincent YA Chen 陳彥安
>  4F, 7 Song Ren Road
> 
> I/T Specialist
>  Taipei, 110
> End User Service
>  Taiwan
> GTS Service Delivery, Taiwan
>  
> 
> Phone:
> +886-2-8723-9081
>  
> 
> Mobile:
> +886-911-227-378
>  
> 
> e-mail:
> yachen@tw.ibm.com
>  
> 
> 

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[VCL] ImageCheckOut permission

Posted by Vincent YA Chen <ya...@tw.ibm.com>.
Dears 

I grant the imagecheckout  permission to my general users ,but I want 
those users can make a reservation only, is it possible to hide below 
items ?

Block Allcations
User Lookup
Documentation


Best Regards,


Vincent YA Chen 陳彥安
 4F, 7 Song Ren Road

I/T Specialist
 Taipei, 110
End User Service
 Taiwan
GTS Service Delivery, Taiwan
 

Phone:
+886-2-8723-9081
 

Mobile:
+886-911-227-378
 

e-mail:
yachen@tw.ibm.com
 



Re: choppy sound

Posted by ik...@mit.bme.hu.
Cool, it's nice to know that it works. To round things out, FreeRDP seems 
to be a workable alternative on Linux to get the necessary RDP client 
support - something to try in the new year.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imre Kocsis
assistant lecturer

Fault Tolerant Systems Research Group
Department of Measurement and Information Systems
Budapest University of Technology and Economics

mail: ikocsis@mit.bme.hu
phone: +36-1-463-2006




From:   David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>
To:     user <us...@vcl.apache.org>
Date:   2013.12.17 19:39
Subject:        Re: choppy sound



Thank You

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356 
www.ncf.edu


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu> 
wrote:

There is new version in AppStore - 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id715768417?mt=12
, which works better then v2.1.1 found on MS site.
--
Thank you,

Dmitri Chebotarov
VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural 
Support, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404


From: David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>
Reply-To: "user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 13:20 
To: user <us...@vcl.apache.org>
Subject: Re: choppy sound

Thanks , I enabled remotefx and enabled RDP8 protocol and it plays really 
nice. Now I just have to research if this is possible on RDP for MAC.

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356 
www.ncf.edu


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
Thanks Imre,

Our image is Windows 7 32bit SP1 with KB2592687. I'm connecting from my 
machine which is Windows 7 64 Bit, also with KB2592687. Thanks , I'll have 
a look and see if I can find that video.

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356 
www.ncf.edu


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, <ik...@mit.bme.hu> wrote:
Hi David, 

if you are using Windows 7 or lower on the VCL and/or client side: we 
haven't gotten around to give it a try (our VCL Windows images are pretty 
much of the Windows 7 age cohort), but RDP 8 - introduced with Windows 8 
and Server 2012 - supposedly performs much, much better w.r.t. video 
streaming, audio streaming, multimedia and the like.  Also, it seems like 
the necessary components can be installed on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 
Server 2008 R2 SP1 (what a name...), too: 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687. I recall seeing an impressive 
video on MSDN (?) comparing RDP 7 and the "RemoteFX" functionality in RDP 
8 - the test case was exactly watching a YouTube video. (Sorry, I can't 
find that video right now; there are many less authoritative "sources" on 
YouTube.) 

May be worth to give it a try. Also, there may be others on the list who 
have already deployed Windows 8 and can give advice regarding multimedia 
experience.

Best regards 
Imre 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imre Kocsis
assistant lecturer

Fault Tolerant Systems Research Group
Department of Measurement and Information Systems
Budapest University of Technology and Economics

mail: ikocsis@mit.bme.hu
phone: +36-1-463-2006
mobile: +36-20-514-6881
skype: kocsis_imre




From:        Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>
To:        "<us...@vcl.apache.org>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
Date:        2013.12.17 17:22
Subject:        Re: choppy sound




Hi, David, 

Some folks may disagree here, but we don’t generally recommend using the 
VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a 
local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL. 
If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically 
don’t make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio 
goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually 
best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets 
complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.

Aaron 


-- 
Aaron Coburn 
System Administrator / Programmer 
Web Services, Amherst College 




On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:

Hello, 

I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems 
to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone 
experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've 
tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as 
the video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is 
appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank 
You.

David DeMizio 
Academic Systems Coordinator 
Office of Information Technology 
New College of Florida 
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356 
www.ncf.edu
[attachment "signature.asc" deleted by Imre Kocsis/ftsrg] 





Re: choppy sound

Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
Thank You

David DeMizio
*Academic Systems Coordinator*
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu> wrote:

>
>  There is new version in AppStore -
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id715768417?mt=12,
> which works better then v2.1.1 found on MS site.
> --
> Thank you,
>
> Dmitri Chebotarov
> VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural
> Support, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
> 223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
> Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404
>
>
>   From: David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>
> Reply-To: "user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 13:20
> To: user <us...@vcl.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: choppy sound
>
>   Thanks , I enabled remotefx and enabled RDP8 protocol and it plays
> really nice. Now I just have to research if this is possible on RDP for MAC.
>
>  David DeMizio
>  *Academic Systems Coordinator*
> Office of Information Technology
> New College of Florida
> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
> www.ncf.edu
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Imre,
>>
>>  Our image is Windows 7 32bit SP1 with KB2592687. I'm connecting from my
>> machine which is Windows 7 64 Bit, also with KB2592687. Thanks , I'll have
>> a look and see if I can find that video.
>>
>>  David DeMizio
>>  *Academic Systems Coordinator*
>> Office of Information Technology
>> New College of Florida
>> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
>> www.ncf.edu
>>
>>
>>   On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, <ik...@mit.bme.hu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> if you are using Windows 7 or lower on the VCL and/or client side: we
>>> haven't gotten around to give it a try (our VCL Windows images are pretty
>>> much of the Windows 7 age cohort), but RDP 8 - introduced with Windows 8
>>> and Server 2012 - supposedly performs much, much better w.r.t. video
>>> streaming, audio streaming, multimedia and the like.  Also, it seems like
>>> the necessary components can be installed on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows
>>> Server 2008 R2 SP1 (what a name...), too:
>>> *http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687*<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687>.
>>> I recall seeing an impressive video on MSDN (?) comparing RDP 7 and the
>>> "RemoteFX" functionality in RDP 8 - the test case was exactly watching a
>>> YouTube video. (Sorry, I can't find that video right now; there are many
>>> less authoritative "sources" on YouTube.)
>>>
>>> May be worth to give it a try. Also, there may be others on the list who
>>> have already deployed Windows 8 and can give advice regarding multimedia
>>> experience.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Imre
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Imre Kocsis
>>> assistant lecturer
>>>
>>> Fault Tolerant Systems Research Group
>>> Department of Measurement and Information Systems
>>> Budapest University of Technology and Economics
>>>
>>> mail: ikocsis@mit.bme.hu
>>> phone: +36-1-463-2006
>>> mobile: +36-20-514-6881
>>> skype: kocsis_imre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:        Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>
>>> To:        "<us...@vcl.apache.org>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
>>> Date:        2013.12.17 17:22
>>> Subject:        Re: choppy sound
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, David,
>>>
>>> Some folks may disagree here, but we don’t generally recommend using the
>>> VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a
>>> local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL.
>>> If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically
>>> don’t make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio
>>> goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually
>>> best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets
>>> complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aaron Coburn
>>> System Administrator / Programmer
>>> Web Services, Amherst College
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <*d...@ncf.edu>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems
>>> to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone
>>> experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've
>>> tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as the
>>> video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is
>>> appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank
>>> You.
>>>
>>> David DeMizio
>>> *Academic Systems Coordinator*
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> New College of Florida
>>> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
>>> *www.ncf.edu* <http://www.ncf.edu/>
>>>  [attachment "signature.asc" deleted by Imre Kocsis/ftsrg]
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: choppy sound

Posted by Dmitri Chebotarov <dc...@gmu.edu>.
There is new version in AppStore - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-remote-desktop/id715768417?mt=12, which works better then v2.1.1 found on MS site.
--
Thank you,

Dmitri Chebotarov
VCL Sys Eng, Engineering & Architectural Support, TSD - Ent Servers & Messaging
223 Aquia Building, Ffx, MSN: 1B5
Phone: (703) 993-6175 | Fax: (703) 993-3404


From: David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>>
Reply-To: "user@vcl.apache.org<ma...@vcl.apache.org>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>>
Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 13:20
To: user <us...@vcl.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: choppy sound

Thanks , I enabled remotefx and enabled RDP8 protocol and it plays really nice. Now I just have to research if this is possible on RDP for MAC.

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu<http://www.ncf.edu/>


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>> wrote:
Thanks Imre,

Our image is Windows 7 32bit SP1 with KB2592687. I'm connecting from my machine which is Windows 7 64 Bit, also with KB2592687. Thanks , I'll have a look and see if I can find that video.

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu<http://www.ncf.edu/>


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, <ik...@mit.bme.hu>> wrote:
Hi David,

if you are using Windows 7 or lower on the VCL and/or client side: we haven't gotten around to give it a try (our VCL Windows images are pretty much of the Windows 7 age cohort), but RDP 8 - introduced with Windows 8 and Server 2012 - supposedly performs much, much better w.r.t. video streaming, audio streaming, multimedia and the like.  Also, it seems like the necessary components can be installed on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 (what a name...), too: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687. I recall seeing an impressive video on MSDN (?) comparing RDP 7 and the "RemoteFX" functionality in RDP 8 - the test case was exactly watching a YouTube video. (Sorry, I can't find that video right now; there are many less authoritative "sources" on YouTube.)

May be worth to give it a try. Also, there may be others on the list who have already deployed Windows 8 and can give advice regarding multimedia experience.

Best regards
Imre

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imre Kocsis
assistant lecturer

Fault Tolerant Systems Research Group
Department of Measurement and Information Systems
Budapest University of Technology and Economics

mail: ikocsis@mit.bme.hu<ma...@mit.bme.hu>
phone: +36-1-463-2006<tel:%2B36-1-463-2006>
mobile: +36-20-514-6881<tel:%2B36-20-514-6881>
skype: kocsis_imre




From:        Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>>
To:        "<us...@vcl.apache.org>>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>>
Date:        2013.12.17 17<tel:2013.12.17%2017>:22
Subject:        Re: choppy sound
________________________________



Hi, David,

Some folks may disagree here, but we don't generally recommend using the VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL. If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically don't make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.

Aaron


--
Aaron Coburn
System Administrator / Programmer
Web Services, Amherst College




On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as the video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank You.

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222<tel:941-487-4222> | Fax: 941-487-4356<tel:941-487-4356>
www.ncf.edu<http://www.ncf.edu/>
[attachment "signature.asc" deleted by Imre Kocsis/ftsrg]



Re: choppy sound

Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
Thanks , I enabled remotefx and enabled RDP8 protocol and it plays really
nice. Now I just have to research if this is possible on RDP for MAC.

David DeMizio
*Academic Systems Coordinator*
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:

> Thanks Imre,
>
> Our image is Windows 7 32bit SP1 with KB2592687. I'm connecting from my
> machine which is Windows 7 64 Bit, also with KB2592687. Thanks , I'll have
> a look and see if I can find that video.
>
> David DeMizio
> *Academic Systems Coordinator*
> Office of Information Technology
> New College of Florida
> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
> www.ncf.edu
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, <ik...@mit.bme.hu> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> if you are using Windows 7 or lower on the VCL and/or client side: we
>> haven't gotten around to give it a try (our VCL Windows images are pretty
>> much of the Windows 7 age cohort), but RDP 8 - introduced with Windows 8
>> and Server 2012 - supposedly performs much, much better w.r.t. video
>> streaming, audio streaming, multimedia and the like.  Also, it seems like
>> the necessary components can be installed on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows
>> Server 2008 R2 SP1 (what a name...), too:
>> *http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687*<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687> .
>> I recall seeing an impressive video on MSDN (?) comparing RDP 7 and the
>> "RemoteFX" functionality in RDP 8 - the test case was exactly watching a
>> YouTube video. (Sorry, I can't find that video right now; there are many
>> less authoritative "sources" on YouTube.)
>>
>> May be worth to give it a try. Also, there may be others on the list who
>> have already deployed Windows 8 and can give advice regarding multimedia
>> experience.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Imre
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Imre Kocsis
>> assistant lecturer
>>
>> Fault Tolerant Systems Research Group
>> Department of Measurement and Information Systems
>> Budapest University of Technology and Economics
>>
>> mail: ikocsis@mit.bme.hu
>> phone: +36-1-463-2006
>> mobile: +36-20-514-6881
>> skype: kocsis_imre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:        Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>
>> To:        "<us...@vcl.apache.org>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
>> Date:        2013.12.17 17:22
>> Subject:        Re: choppy sound
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, David,
>>
>> Some folks may disagree here, but we don’t generally recommend using the
>> VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a
>> local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL.
>> If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically
>> don’t make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio
>> goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually
>> best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets
>> complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aaron Coburn
>> System Administrator / Programmer
>> Web Services, Amherst College
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <*d...@ncf.edu>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems
>> to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone
>> experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've
>> tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as the
>> video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is
>> appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank
>> You.
>>
>> David DeMizio
>> *Academic Systems Coordinator*
>> Office of Information Technology
>> New College of Florida
>> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
>> *www.ncf.edu* <http://www.ncf.edu/>
>> [attachment "signature.asc" deleted by Imre Kocsis/ftsrg]
>>
>
>

Re: choppy sound

Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
Thanks Imre,

Our image is Windows 7 32bit SP1 with KB2592687. I'm connecting from my
machine which is Windows 7 64 Bit, also with KB2592687. Thanks , I'll have
a look and see if I can find that video.

David DeMizio
*Academic Systems Coordinator*
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM, <ik...@mit.bme.hu> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> if you are using Windows 7 or lower on the VCL and/or client side: we
> haven't gotten around to give it a try (our VCL Windows images are pretty
> much of the Windows 7 age cohort), but RDP 8 - introduced with Windows 8
> and Server 2012 - supposedly performs much, much better w.r.t. video
> streaming, audio streaming, multimedia and the like.  Also, it seems like
> the necessary components can be installed on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows
> Server 2008 R2 SP1 (what a name...), too:
> *http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687*<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687> .
> I recall seeing an impressive video on MSDN (?) comparing RDP 7 and the
> "RemoteFX" functionality in RDP 8 - the test case was exactly watching a
> YouTube video. (Sorry, I can't find that video right now; there are many
> less authoritative "sources" on YouTube.)
>
> May be worth to give it a try. Also, there may be others on the list who
> have already deployed Windows 8 and can give advice regarding multimedia
> experience.
>
> Best regards
> Imre
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Imre Kocsis
> assistant lecturer
>
> Fault Tolerant Systems Research Group
> Department of Measurement and Information Systems
> Budapest University of Technology and Economics
>
> mail: ikocsis@mit.bme.hu
> phone: +36-1-463-2006
> mobile: +36-20-514-6881
> skype: kocsis_imre
>
>
>
>
> From:        Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>
> To:        "<us...@vcl.apache.org>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
> Date:        2013.12.17 17:22
> Subject:        Re: choppy sound
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi, David,
>
> Some folks may disagree here, but we don’t generally recommend using the
> VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a
> local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL.
> If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically
> don’t make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio
> goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually
> best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets
> complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> --
> Aaron Coburn
> System Administrator / Programmer
> Web Services, Amherst College
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <*d...@ncf.edu>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems
> to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone
> experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've
> tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as the
> video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is
> appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank
> You.
>
> David DeMizio
> *Academic Systems Coordinator*
> Office of Information Technology
> New College of Florida
> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
> *www.ncf.edu* <http://www.ncf.edu/>
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>

Re: choppy sound

Posted by ik...@mit.bme.hu.
Hi David,

if you are using Windows 7 or lower on the VCL and/or client side: we 
haven't gotten around to give it a try (our VCL Windows images are pretty 
much of the Windows 7 age cohort), but RDP 8 - introduced with Windows 8 
and Server 2012 - supposedly performs much, much better w.r.t. video 
streaming, audio streaming, multimedia and the like.  Also, it seems like 
the necessary components can be installed on Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 
Server 2008 R2 SP1 (what a name...), too: 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687 . I recall seeing an impressive 
video on MSDN (?) comparing RDP 7 and the "RemoteFX" functionality in RDP 
8 - the test case was exactly watching a YouTube video. (Sorry, I can't 
find that video right now; there are many less authoritative "sources" on 
YouTube.) 

May be worth to give it a try. Also, there may be others on the list who 
have already deployed Windows 8 and can give advice regarding multimedia 
experience.

Best regards
Imre

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From:   Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>
To:     "<us...@vcl.apache.org>" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
Date:   2013.12.17 17:22
Subject:        Re: choppy sound



Hi, David,

Some folks may disagree here, but we don’t generally recommend using the 
VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a 
local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL. 
If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically 
don’t make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio 
goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually 
best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets 
complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.

Aaron


--
Aaron Coburn
System Administrator / Programmer
Web Services, Amherst College




On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:

Hello,

I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems 
to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone 
experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've 
tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as 
the video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is 
appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank 
You.

David DeMizio
Academic Systems Coordinator
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356 
www.ncf.edu
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Re: choppy sound

Posted by Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>.
Hi, David,

Some folks may disagree here, but we don’t generally recommend using the VCL for any video- or audio-intensive applications. For viewing videos, a local browser works much better than doing the same thing through the VCL. If the video needs to be played in a particular application, we typically don’t make those applications available through the VCL. As far as audio goes, it can be OK with a suitably low bit-rate, but that, too, is usually best done outside the context of a RDP session. Audio  also gets complicated in that not all RDP clients support it in the first place.

Aaron


--
Aaron Coburn
System Administrator / Programmer
Web Services, Amherst College




On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:06 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have been experimenting with sound through remote desktop and it seems to come in choppy. This will be an issue for our language labs, has anyone experienced the same issues wen remoting into a virtual node via RDP. I've tested by watching you tube videos which is pretty much not possible as the video  and sound are  just really slow and choppy. Any advice is appreciated on how others have overcome this within their VCL labs. Thank You.
> 
> David DeMizio
> Academic Systems Coordinator
> Office of Information Technology
> New College of Florida
> Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
> www.ncf.edu