Re: [Discussion] Geronimo web site update

[Dave Colasurdo <da...@earthlink.net>]

Looks great!  A few minor nitpick comments on the website content:

1) Why are the guiding principles in blue text?  At first glance, it 
makes it appear as though the items are links..  I know links are 
underlined.. though still seems odd.

2) Why are the news events in a table? Does the author field really 
provide any useful info to the user?

3) The news archive contains the "current events" in a different format. 
  That seems strange.. I would expect this to contain only the older 
stale stuff..

4) The archive button should be more closely located to the news itself.

5) Why is JIRA top ten on the front page.  Seems this should be on a 
supporting page..

6)The link to the wiki provides the correct wiki main page.. Though all 
the links on that page are dead..

Thanks
-Dave-

Hernan Cunico wrote:
> alright, I'm done with the updates. Finally moved all the content over.
> 
> I will be calling a vote for changing the authoring tool from ant 
> scripts and xdocs to confluence.
> 
> This is the link to the migrated site
> 
> http://geronimo.apache.org/newsite/
> 
> it gets updated 5 mins after every hour
> 
> Cheers!
> Hernan
> 
> Jason Dillon wrote:
>> I put the edit links back on, I think they are helpful for use the 
>> site maintainers... especially since the links are not directly 
>> convertible from exported back to the confluence page.
>>
>> --jason
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>
>>> nice!
>>> I'll probably be done with the updates today.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Hernan
>>>
>>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>>> FYI, its up now:
>>>> http://geronimo.apache.org/newsite/
>>>> --jason
>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>>>>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>>>>>>> yup, links look better now. What's the trick? are you massaging 
>>>>>>>>> the pages during the rsync?
>>>>>>>> Nope... Just rsycn -tr src/ dest/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hmm, I was wondering how different would it be from the one Jeff 
>>>>>>> T is running. See his copies still point to cwiki.
>>>>>> Um... huh?
>>>>>>>>> As for the account, I think there is already a discussion on 
>>>>>>>>> infra@ for creating/securing a "confluence" based account on p.a.o
>>>>>>>> Thats only to replace jeffs account, we still need an account 
>>>>>>>> setup to sync to /www/geronimo.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh, so we would need a confluence-Geronimo specific account on 
>>>>>>> p.a.o. no idea how to make that req. nor how to maintain that 
>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>> No, infra is not going to setup a user for this... we just need to 
>>>>>> run it as me or you or someone.
>>>>>
>>>>> we'll toss a coin then :P
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Are you working on a new template?
>>>>>>>> I think for now the template is okay, only changes might be to 
>>>>>>>> loose the tabs.
>>>>>>> I whacked the top right menu already, I guess we could also get 
>>>>>>> rid of the other tabs too.
>>>>>>> Two things keep spinning in my head, one is the JIRAs on the 
>>>>>>> front page. I really don't like the tables there, if we want it 
>>>>>>> more dynamic let's find another way.
>>>>>>> The other thing is the "News" and how we use them. We can't use 
>>>>>>> the "Add News" to inform about future events, the whole thing is 
>>>>>>> tied up to the date the new was posted.
>>>>>>> So, any ideas how could we manage the "Events"?
>>>>>> Maybe use one of the calendar plugins for confluence for events?
>>>>>
>>>>> The calendar plugin is really cool but guess what, doesn't cope 
>>>>> very well with the autoexport.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll keep playing with it, it's really nice :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> Hernan
>>>>>> --jason
>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: [Discussion] Geronimo web site update

[Dave Colasurdo <da...@earthlink.net>]

Hernan Cunico wrote:
> 
> Dave Colasurdo wrote:
>> Looks great!  A few minor nitpick comments on the website content:
>>
>> 1) Why are the guiding principles in blue text?  At first glance, it 
>> makes it appear as though the items are links..  I know links are 
>> underlined.. though still seems odd.
> 
> We already had them in blue in the original version, this blue shade is 
> different form the links. The idea is to highlight these with the same 
> tone as the banner bkground
> 

Still think it's confusing as many websites use "blue" to indicate 
unvisited hyperlinks.  Of course, not a big deal since hovering removes 
any doubt.

>>
>> 2) Why are the news events in a table? Does the author field really 
>> provide any useful info to the user?
> 
> These are automatically generated, a new way to keep the site up to 
> date. Just click on "add news" (need to be a committer though) and the 
> news will get populated on the home page, just 3 at a time. All the news 
> will get stored either in events or news archive.
> 

Sounds like a great idea.  Though not sure if the author info is really 
useful to users..  Are you saying the news items are limited to the last 
three that were added? That seems like a strange limitation.  Seems all 
the relevant news should be available unless the volume of data gets too 
large..

Thanks
-Dave-

Re: [Discussion] Geronimo web site update

[Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>]

Dave Colasurdo wrote:
> Looks great!  A few minor nitpick comments on the website content:
> 
> 1) Why are the guiding principles in blue text?  At first glance, it 
> makes it appear as though the items are links..  I know links are 
> underlined.. though still seems odd.

We already had them in blue in the original version, this blue shade is different form the links. The idea is to highlight these with the same tone as the banner bkground

> 
> 2) Why are the news events in a table? Does the author field really 
> provide any useful info to the user?

These are automatically generated, a new way to keep the site up to date. Just click on "add news" (need to be a committer though) and the news will get populated on the home page, just 3 at a time. All the news will get stored either in events or news archive.

> 
> 3) The news archive contains the "current events" in a different format. 
>  That seems strange.. I would expect this to contain only the older 
> stale stuff..

this is just temporary till we all agree on using the "Add News" feature from confluence to manage this kind of updates.

> 
> 4) The archive button should be more closely located to the news itself.

it can be easily moved.

> 
> 5) Why is JIRA top ten on the front page.  Seems this should be on a 
> supporting page..

we can take it out. This vote is just for the authoring thingy, we need to have further discussion on a separate thread on how we want to organize and display the info.

> 
> 6)The link to the wiki provides the correct wiki main page.. Though all 
> the links on that page are dead..

This is a temporary location, not all the links may work.

Cheers!
Hernan

> 
> Thanks
> -Dave-
> 
> Hernan Cunico wrote:
>> alright, I'm done with the updates. Finally moved all the content over.
>>
>> I will be calling a vote for changing the authoring tool from ant 
>> scripts and xdocs to confluence.
>>
>> This is the link to the migrated site
>>
>> http://geronimo.apache.org/newsite/
>>
>> it gets updated 5 mins after every hour
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Hernan
>>
>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>> I put the edit links back on, I think they are helpful for use the 
>>> site maintainers... especially since the links are not directly 
>>> convertible from exported back to the confluence page.
>>>
>>> --jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2007, at 6:37 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>
>>>> nice!
>>>> I'll probably be done with the updates today.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>> Hernan
>>>>
>>>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>>>> FYI, its up now:
>>>>> http://geronimo.apache.org/newsite/
>>>>> --jason
>>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jason Dillon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> yup, links look better now. What's the trick? are you 
>>>>>>>>>> massaging the pages during the rsync?
>>>>>>>>> Nope... Just rsycn -tr src/ dest/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmm, I was wondering how different would it be from the one Jeff 
>>>>>>>> T is running. See his copies still point to cwiki.
>>>>>>> Um... huh?
>>>>>>>>>> As for the account, I think there is already a discussion on 
>>>>>>>>>> infra@ for creating/securing a "confluence" based account on 
>>>>>>>>>> p.a.o
>>>>>>>>> Thats only to replace jeffs account, we still need an account 
>>>>>>>>> setup to sync to /www/geronimo.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh, so we would need a confluence-Geronimo specific account on 
>>>>>>>> p.a.o. no idea how to make that req. nor how to maintain that 
>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>> No, infra is not going to setup a user for this... we just need 
>>>>>>> to run it as me or you or someone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we'll toss a coin then :P
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> Are you working on a new template?
>>>>>>>>> I think for now the template is okay, only changes might be to 
>>>>>>>>> loose the tabs.
>>>>>>>> I whacked the top right menu already, I guess we could also get 
>>>>>>>> rid of the other tabs too.
>>>>>>>> Two things keep spinning in my head, one is the JIRAs on the 
>>>>>>>> front page. I really don't like the tables there, if we want it 
>>>>>>>> more dynamic let's find another way.
>>>>>>>> The other thing is the "News" and how we use them. We can't use 
>>>>>>>> the "Add News" to inform about future events, the whole thing is 
>>>>>>>> tied up to the date the new was posted.
>>>>>>>> So, any ideas how could we manage the "Events"?
>>>>>>> Maybe use one of the calendar plugins for confluence for events?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The calendar plugin is really cool but guess what, doesn't cope 
>>>>>> very well with the autoexport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll keep playing with it, it's really nice :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> Hernan
>>>>>>> --jason
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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