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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Dmitry Blotsky <db...@microsoft.com> on 2015/06/01 19:28:05 UTC
RE: "Best" place to browse plugins
Is there anything stopping cordova-plugin-registry to become just a search and description engine, while still keeping the code on npm? What facilities did installing from CPR have over installing from npm?
Kindly,
Dmitry
From: Joerg Holz [mailto:holz@hamburg.de]
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 2:46 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
I’m a cordova developer.
The idea to move the plugins to npm was a very bad one. No professional description, no professional searching.
From a developer view, there is a need to have an overview off all plugins - just for inspiration There is a need to have a filter for platforms, the maintainer, last update, … and the most important and complicated one: Is the plugin checked, checked for platform, checked for version?
Have you ever tried to bring a three wheel selector in a cordova application? That is a great job. Sorry for posting a screenshot, but this simple wheeler took me one week for working on iOS, Android and Windows.
I tried every plugin, every modification of every plugin, I split the platforms … in the end I used mobiscroll and rewrote it for my needs. Just for selecting a timespan.
Cordova is great, the most important job for the future is: Let give the people the power of cordova by good plugins.
Jörg
Am 29.05.2015 um 02:55 schrieb Gorkem Ercan <go...@gmail.com>>:
On 28 May 2015, at 19:41, Murat Sutunc wrote:
I had some free time today and started working on a plugin search prototype. Currently it doesn't offer much but it's very similar to what Gulp has.
GH: https://github.com/muratsu/cordova-plugin-search
Imgur (can't add images to mails :( ): http://imgur.com/sX8oFcJ
One problem I've run into is discoverability. Currently we're using the keyword `ecosystem:cordova` with all of the plugins. Ecosystem is a wider term than plugins and will most likely contain irrelevant search results.
It does, I use it and at least all the cordova-platforms appear on the results.
I was hoping that we switch to using `cordova-plugin` or `cordovaplugin` keyword going forward for better discoverability. Also for comparison, yeoman uses `yeoman-generator`, gulp uses `gulpplugin` and grunt uses `gruntplugin`. Thoughts?
+1. I guess there is no way to add them for all the existing plugins though.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengill97@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:35 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org<ma...@cordova.apache.org>
Cc: Tommy-Carlos Williams
Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
npm does have a plan to improve their ecosystem + communities later this year. We will essentially get a portal for cordova on npmjs.
I also agree in turning plugins.cordova.io into a Gulp & Yeoman style search page. Probably won't be doing that until our current registry is shut down I imagine.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
+1
I've used both Gulp & Yeoman's search, and prefer both to NPM
(although it's not difficult to be better than NPM's search).
I also think close association with the brand and site are important.
For those users who don't know about Node & NPM yet, it's quickly
apparent that there's a large community creating plugins for Cordova,
and for everyone else, we have a URL that helps reinforce the Cordova
name. NPM would still be canonical, of course.
(Now if NPM improved their search and did some nice work around
ecosystems, perhaps the above wouldn't be necessary. But I'm not going
to hold my breath...)
On May 27, 2015 at 8:19:35 AM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
(tommy@devgeeks.org<ma...@devgeeks.org>)
wrote:
+1
On 26 May 2015, at 21:44, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I would like to see plugin.cordova.io be a page easy to search and
filter
cordova plugins just like gulp [1], grunt [2], yeoman [3] and bower
[4]
[1]: http://gulpjs.com/plugins
[2]: http://gruntjs.com/plugins
[3]: http://yeoman.io/generators
[4]: http://bower.io/search
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 3:57 PM Michael Brooks
<mi...@michaelbrooks.ca>>
wrote:
The mirroring may not help for search, but my worry is that a lot
of
folks
would still be on 4.3.0 and when cordova plugins registry becomes
read only, they would not get bug fixes and other plugin updates.
My experience is this:
- A developer who is willing to upgrade a platform is also willing
to upgrading a plugin.
- A developer who is *not* willing to upgrade a platform is also
*not* willing in upgrading a plugin.
I think it's reasonable to offer a read-only state for the legacy
plugin registry. However, it would be helpful for the registry to
explain the minimum Cordova version required to support the npm registry.
Michael
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) <
panarasi@microsoft.com<ma...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
The mirroring may not help for search, but my worry is that a lot
of
folks
would still be on 4.3.0 and when cordova plugins registry becomes
read only, they would not get bug fixes and other plugin updates.
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Sosa [mailto:sosah.victor@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:59 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org<ma...@cordova.apache.org>
Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
I don't see a value on mirroring either. Instead I'd like to see a
good querying mechanism in NPM, but for that we have to wait :/
2015-05-01 10:55 GMT-05:00 Raymond Camden <ra...@gmail.com>>:
I don't know - if npm is the place, then having a mirror just
seems like noise. I'd say close it down and put a nice text
message up on the site explaining where it is at NPM and how to
search. (Link to npm with the search params included.)
Is there a benefit of having it mirrored?
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH)
<pa...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
It would be even better (for backward compatibility reasons) if
we could
simply publish on npm, but keep plugins.cordova.io as a
mirror/redirector, based on the Cordova registry mapper.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gorkem Ercan [mailto:gorkem.ercan@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:31 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org<ma...@cordova.apache.org>
Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
What is the plan for plugins.cordova.io for after the CPR is closed?
Without knowing if there is a good way to retrieve the
list/details of
the cordova plugins from npm.
I would love it if we could keep it as it is with the data from npm.
--
Gorkem
On 29 Apr 2015, at 10:57, Raymond Camden wrote:
With plugins at npm now, what is the "best" place for users to
browse plugins?
Is it at npm, using the search filter?
https://www.npmjs.com/browse/keyword/ecosystem:cordova
Is it plugins.cordova.io?
If it is npm, will there be text added to plugins.cordova.io to
tell folks to start using the npm site?
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