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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Artem Kuchin <ma...@itlegion.ru> on 2008/06/19 13:51:55 UTC

[users@httpd] Weird Ip in access log, need help to understand

I recently upgraded to 2.2 and now i see thing which i have never seen 
mefore in
the access log:

74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118 - - [11/Jun/2008:06:28:55 +0400] "GET 
/Go/ViewProduct/id=883 HTTP/1.1" 200 7195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; 
Yahoo! Slurp; http://he
lp.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"

What is "74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118" ?

Some records how even three IP addesses! Some have the word "unknown" 
then  comma ip address.

i have

HostnameLookups Off

in the config file.


What is this? How is it possible? What does it mean?

-- 
Artem


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Re: [users@httpd] Weird Ip in access log, need help to understand

Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.

Artem Kuchin wrote:
> 
> 
> André Warnier пишет:
>>
>>
>> Artem Kuchin wrote:
>>> I recently upgraded to 2.2 and now i see thing which i have never 
>>> seen mefore in
>>> the access log:
>>>
>>> 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118 - - [11/Jun/2008:06:28:55 +0400] "GET 
>>> /Go/ViewProduct/id=883 HTTP/1.1" 200 7195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 
>>> (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://he
>>> lp.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"
>>
>> Following the link to :
>> http://help.yahoo.com//help/us/ysearch/slurp
>> may help understand
>>
> 
> no, it does not. The problem is not with slurp and is not related to any 
> particular client. It is not even
> a problem in a common meaning. The question is WHY in this record are 2 
> (TWO) ip address in
> the first field of the record: 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118
> How it is possible at all? One request comes only from one ip. Where 
> apache takes these
> addresses?
> 
Well ok.
Now both IP's are indeed  from yahoo's crawlers (of which there are 
probably many hundreds) :
dent:~# nslookup 74.6.29.159
Non-authoritative answer:
159.29.6.74.in-addr.arpa        name = lj512625.crawl.yahoo.net.
dent:~# nslookup 74.6.8.118
Non-authoritative answer:
118.8.6.74.in-addr.arpa name = llf520026.crawl.yahoo.net.

What I would guess is that Apache somehow regroups identical and 
simultaneous requests into a single log line.  And I would guess that 
Yahoo crawlers work "in teams", so that it is not surprising that 
several requests would arrive simultaneously to your server.
I'm just guessing here.

But it's interesting anyway.  I have not really looked specifically, but 
I don't recall seeing such lines on any of our servers.

A question : is the URL in those accesses, a real URL that exists on 
your site ?  I see a 200 OK return code, but some sites return a page 
even for an invalid URL.
If it is not, then there is one item on the Yahoo page that may explain 
why there are such quasi-simultaneous requests.  I think it's called 
"why is yahoo trying to get strange urls from my site ?"

André




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Re: [users@httpd] Weird Ip in access log, need help to understand

Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
I just saw the following in the documentation for mod_proxy :

quote

Be careful when using these headers on the origin server, since they 
will contain more than one (comma-separated) value if the original 
request already contained one of these headers. For example, you can use 
%{X-Forwarded-For}i in the log format string of the origin server to log 
the original clients IP address, but you may get more than one address 
if the request passes through several proxies.

unquote

Maybe this has something to do with the issue you mention ?
I mean that maybe yahoo requests go through several proxies, and what 
you are seeing in your loogs, is the result of a collection of various 
proxy addresses, decoded by your logging format.

André


Artem Kuchin wrote:
> 
> 
> André Warnier пишет:
>>
>>
>> Artem Kuchin wrote:
>>> I recently upgraded to 2.2 and now i see thing which i have never 
>>> seen mefore in
>>> the access log:
>>>
>>> 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118 - - [11/Jun/2008:06:28:55 +0400] "GET 
>>> /Go/ViewProduct/id=883 HTTP/1.1" 200 7195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 
>>> (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://he
>>> lp.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"
>>
>> Following the link to :
>> http://help.yahoo.com//help/us/ysearch/slurp
>> may help understand
>>
> 
> no, it does not. The problem is not with slurp and is not related to any 
> particular client. It is not even
> a problem in a common meaning. The question is WHY in this record are 2 
> (TWO) ip address in
> the first field of the record: 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118
> How it is possible at all? One request comes only from one ip. Where 
> apache takes these
> addresses?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Artem
> 
> 
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Re: [users@httpd] Weird Ip in access log, need help to understand

Posted by Artem Kuchin <ma...@itlegion.ru>.

André Warnier пишет:
>
>
> Artem Kuchin wrote:
>> I recently upgraded to 2.2 and now i see thing which i have never 
>> seen mefore in
>> the access log:
>>
>> 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118 - - [11/Jun/2008:06:28:55 +0400] "GET 
>> /Go/ViewProduct/id=883 HTTP/1.1" 200 7195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 
>> (compatible; Yahoo! Slurp; http://he
>> lp.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"
>
> Following the link to :
> http://help.yahoo.com//help/us/ysearch/slurp
> may help understand
>

no, it does not. The problem is not with slurp and is not related to any 
particular client. It is not even
a problem in a common meaning. The question is WHY in this record are 2 
(TWO) ip address in
the first field of the record: 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118
How it is possible at all? One request comes only from one ip. Where 
apache takes these
addresses?

--
Regards,
Artem



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Re: [users@httpd] Weird Ip in access log, need help to understand

Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.

Artem Kuchin wrote:
> I recently upgraded to 2.2 and now i see thing which i have never seen 
> mefore in
> the access log:
> 
> 74.6.29.159, 74.6.8.118 - - [11/Jun/2008:06:28:55 +0400] "GET 
> /Go/ViewProduct/id=883 HTTP/1.1" 200 7195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; 
> Yahoo! Slurp; http://he
> lp.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp)"

Following the link to :
http://help.yahoo.com//help/us/ysearch/slurp
may help understand



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