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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@anyware-tech.com> on 2003/01/16 10:02:18 UTC
Zombie code (was: Re: [announce] CVSSource at cocoondev.org)
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>
>
>>>Well, for the download feature we don't really need one of those. Ant
>>>is able to download things as well. Look at the avalon framework build
>>>script for example. It provides extra targets to download 3rd party
>>>libraries.
>>>
>>Can be a way to go. However, I'd like to place an absolute requirement
>>on the build system : the "dist" target *must compile all source files*.
>>
>>That means we may not require all libs to be present to build a local
>>cocoon.jar (some users want to build their own jar but don't need the
>>whole stuff), but the distro must include everything.
>>
>Hmm, interesting idea - this is currently not the case. I'm not sure, if
>this is really a good idea. For example, how many downloaders need the
>php support?
>
>
Not that many, but if the class isn't included in the distro, then you
can be sure _nobody_ will use it ! And so this becomes "zombie code" in
our CVS repo !
Look at [1] and [2] : this clearly shows that JSPEngineImplWLS _is_
zombified. Users need it but don't know about it, and those who know
about it find it to be out of date and give up... Had this code been
included in the distro, we certainly would have received some patches to
upgrade it for newer versions of WLS.
Sylvain
[1] : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&m=104125175308139&w=2
[2] : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users&m=103539082721215&w=2
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RE: Zombie code (was: Re: [announce] CVSSource at cocoondev.org)
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
> >Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Well, for the download feature we don't really need one of those. Ant
> >>>is able to download things as well. Look at the avalon framework build
> >>>script for example. It provides extra targets to download 3rd party
> >>>libraries.
> >>>
> >>Can be a way to go. However, I'd like to place an absolute requirement
> >>on the build system : the "dist" target *must compile all source files*.
> >>
> >>That means we may not require all libs to be present to build a local
> >>cocoon.jar (some users want to build their own jar but don't need the
> >>whole stuff), but the distro must include everything.
> >>
> >Hmm, interesting idea - this is currently not the case. I'm not sure, if
> >this is really a good idea. For example, how many downloaders need the
> >php support?
> >
> >
>
> Not that many, but if the class isn't included in the distro, then you
> can be sure _nobody_ will use it ! And so this becomes "zombie code" in
> our CVS repo !
>
> Look at [1] and [2] : this clearly shows that JSPEngineImplWLS _is_
> zombified. Users need it but don't know about it, and those who know
> about it find it to be out of date and give up... Had this code been
> included in the distro, we certainly would have received some patches to
> upgrade it for newer versions of WLS.
>
So, that's simple: we need better documentation :) (just kidding)
If I understand you right, you mean the compiled classes but not the
required libraries, right? If so, that's ok for me.
Carsten
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