RE: UPNP

[Anne Thomas Manes <an...@manes.net>]

I haven't heard anything about UPNP for about a year. The only device that I
ever heard of that was UPNP certified was the Intel AnyPoint Networking
Gateway (http://www.samsungelectronics.com/homenetwork/news/news_005.html).

UPNP definitely predates WSDL.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Loughran [mailto:steve_l@iseran.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:12 PM
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> Subject: Re: Document style web services
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <an...@manes.net>
> To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 5:59 PM
> Subject: RE: Document style web services
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> > Yes -- UPNP adopted SOAP a long, long time ago. (I think it was 0.9 --
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> > were the days when the only option was rpc/enc.) IIRC, the first
> > implementation of UPNP used SOAP. (although the development work on the
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> > started before SOAP)
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> > Anne
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> I need to find a UPNP service and see what soapscope thinks about it.
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> I see the technology is still oblivious to WSDL..
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Re: UPNP

[Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Thomas Manes" <an...@manes.net>
To: <ax...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 18:55
Subject: RE: UPNP


> I haven't heard anything about UPNP for about a year. The only device that
I
> ever heard of that was UPNP certified was the Intel AnyPoint Networking
> Gateway
(http://www.samsungelectronics.com/homenetwork/news/news_005.html).
>
> UPNP definitely predates WSDL.

There is that UPNP stuff in winxp, which means that MS secretly have a fifth
SOAP stack to go with the two .net implementations, MSSTK and ATL server.
But I havent seen any UPNP devices. I could find out what is going on in the
printer area, but then I wouldnt be able to talk about it. From what I
recall, there were issues with UPnPs chattiness counting against its
usability in the office (there were no aggregation of discovery mcasts via
discovery servers, a la SLPv2), leaving the home. But in the home LAN hosted
printers are a rarity, USB to the home PC is the centre of attention.

So I'll ignore Upnp. Its a shame, because if it was real WSDL/SOAP with the
discovery mechanism decoupled from the interaction, a UPNP printer would
just be a printer service on the lan that you could find through discovery,
UDDI (!), hardcoding, etc, and talk direct to it from your app if you so
chose.

-steve