Re: XAL + Shale..

[Chandresh Turakhia <ch...@bhartitelesoft.com>]

Dear Hermod ,

http://www.openxal.org/  - Apache Incubator Project based on Nexaweb 
www.nexaweb.com for Web 2.0
http://incubator.apache.org/xap


Nexaweb is part of OpenAJAX Alliance.

Chand


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <he...@dnbnor.no>
To: <de...@shale.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:17 AM
Subject: RE: XAL + Shale..


> Hi
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> Which XAL would that be?
>
> Hermod
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chandresh Turakhia [mailto:chand.turakhia@bhartitelesoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:00 PM
> To: dev@shale.apache.org; user@shale.apache.org
> Subject: XAL + Shale..
>
>
> Dear all ,
>
> Has anyone tried XAL with Shale.
>
> Nice to have pointers. Can ViewController be combined with MCO nicely.  Do 
> you find it a decent candidate for sandbox project.
>
>
> Chand
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Re: XAL + Shale..

[Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>]

On 1/24/07, Chandresh Turakhia <ch...@bhartitelesoft.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Hermod ,
>
> http://www.openxal.org/  - Apache Incubator Project based on Nexaweb


This is *not* an Apache Incubator Project. It is purely a Nexaweb
initiative, at least at this point.

--
Martin Cooper


www.nexaweb.com for Web 2.0
> http://incubator.apache.org/xap
>
>
> Nexaweb is part of OpenAJAX Alliance.
>
> Chand
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <he...@dnbnor.no>
> To: <de...@shale.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:17 AM
> Subject: RE: XAL + Shale..
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Which XAL would that be?
> >
> > Hermod
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chandresh Turakhia [mailto:chand.turakhia@bhartitelesoft.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:00 PM
> > To: dev@shale.apache.org; user@shale.apache.org
> > Subject: XAL + Shale..
> >
> >
> > Dear all ,
> >
> > Has anyone tried XAL with Shale.
> >
> > Nice to have pointers. Can ViewController be combined with MCO
> nicely.  Do
> > you find it a decent candidate for sandbox project.
> >
> >
> > Chand
> >
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Re: XAL + Shale..

[Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>]

On 1/24/07, Chandresh Turakhia <ch...@bhartitelesoft.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Hermod ,
>
> http://www.openxal.org/  - Apache Incubator Project based on Nexaweb
> www.nexaweb.com for Web 2.0
> http://incubator.apache.org/xap


Thanks for the pointers.  I have not tried either XAL or XAP myself, but
would be really interested in hearing about people's experiences.  I'd also
definitely be interested in examples we could publish in the sandbox.

Regarding the general use of "declarative UI" languages like these with
Shale, there are (at least) a couple of approaches to consider:

* Attempt to wrap the "widgets" provided by the declarative
  language in JSF components that output markup conforming
  to the declarative language, which later gets interpreted
  somehow and converted into HTML or whatever.

* Skip the use of JSF's UI components, and just using
  Shale for its back end services.  You can still leverage things
  like the remoting, view controller, and dialog manager features,
  even if you are not using JSF to create the markup for you.

I suspect that, for any given language, the second approach will be easier
than the first, but it is worth looking at both styles.

Nexaweb is part of OpenAJAX Alliance.
>
> Chand


Craig


----- Original Message -----
> From: <he...@dnbnor.no>
> To: <de...@shale.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:17 AM
> Subject: RE: XAL + Shale..
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Which XAL would that be?
> >
> > Hermod
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chandresh Turakhia [mailto:chand.turakhia@bhartitelesoft.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:00 PM
> > To: dev@shale.apache.org; user@shale.apache.org
> > Subject: XAL + Shale..
> >
> >
> > Dear all ,
> >
> > Has anyone tried XAL with Shale.
> >
> > Nice to have pointers. Can ViewController be combined with MCO
> nicely.  Do
> > you find it a decent candidate for sandbox project.
> >
> >
> > Chand
> >
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> > cannot accept any payment orders or other legally binding correspondence
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> > customers as a part of an email.
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