Fwd: failure notice

[David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>]

For some reason this message from Bertrand didn't go through  
moderation (unless I am no longer moderator??)
I am manually forwarding it on for now until we can figure out whats  
wrong with moderation

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" <bd...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 24, 2008 12:12:27 AM PDT
> To: general-owner@portals.apache.org
> Subject: Fwd: failure notice
> Reply-To: bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch
>
> Hi, looks like my message cced to general@portals.apache.org didn't
> make it, or will it be moderated through?
>
> -Bertrand
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:  <MA...@apache.org>
> Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:10 AM
> Subject: failure notice
> To: bdelacretaz@gmail.com
>
>
>
> Hi Ate,
>
> Thanks very much for your detailed reply. I'll comment on what's
> specific to the incubating status.
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu> wrote:
>
>> ...The problem of course is that WSRP4J still is in incubation and  
>> to be honest
>> hasn't seem much activities for some years now.
>> Part of the reason in my view (and possibly a big one) is the  
>> *still* fuzzy
>> state of potential patent claims on WSRP 1.0....
>
> Does that patent issue mean that an ASF release of the WSRP4J would
> not be safe from a legal point of view?
>
> Or is it just that users might be afraid of using it?
>
>> ...We are in a kind of limbo here though: without proper developer  
>> and
>> community support how can it ever get out of incubator?...
>
> Assuming the legal issue can be worked out, would the portals PMC be
> prepared to "adopt" the WSRP4J code and maintain it in the future?
>
>> ...If we can get a resolution on these legal issues soon, the state  
>> of the
>> project could be improved a lot in a short time (its not *that* big a
>> project to be honest), which I think then definitely will result in  
>> a much
>> more interested and growing community (there is a large group of  
>> silent
>> subscribers to the wsrp4j lists)....
>
> Do you have pointers to discussions on our legal lists (Message-Id
> would do), so that interested people can get more details?
>
> -Bertrand