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Posted to dev@training.apache.org by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> on 2020/01/07 10:41:09 UTC
[DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Hi all,
in order to really use the changes I just pushed, we should probably fine tune them (especially the CSS and static resources) and do a first release soon.
Otherwise other presentations can’t be released based on them.
Chris
Re: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Posted by Lars Francke <la...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, I was unclear: Releasing tools/archetypes etc. definitely makes
sense, I shouldn't have "hijacked" this thread.
I was talking about content itself. Justin has some excellent points as to
why it makes sense to also release that.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 8:22 AM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> ________________________________
> Von: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 08:21:16
> An: Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> Betreff: AW: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
>
> And it makes using the Archetype a lot easier.
> Maven without a pom doesn't know about the apache snapshot repo. So you're
> have to use a ridiculously long command line every time.
>
> If released, that's a lot simpler.
>
> And last bit least : if these artifacts are not released you can't release
> any content that uses it.
>
> Chris
> ________________________________
> Von: Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 23:16:07
> An: dev@training.apache.org <de...@training.apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
>
> Hi,
>
> If we don’t make a releases, we can’t:
> a) Distribute content via Apache mirrors.
> b) Give confidence that the content is free from legal issues and complies
> with the Apache license.
> c) Graduate the Incubator (it’s expected you make releases and know how to
> do so)
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
WG: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
________________________________
Von: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 08:21:16
An: Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
Betreff: AW: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
And it makes using the Archetype a lot easier.
Maven without a pom doesn't know about the apache snapshot repo. So you're have to use a ridiculously long command line every time.
If released, that's a lot simpler.
And last bit least : if these artifacts are not released you can't release any content that uses it.
Chris
________________________________
Von: Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 23:16:07
An: dev@training.apache.org <de...@training.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Hi,
If we don’t make a releases, we can’t:
a) Distribute content via Apache mirrors.
b) Give confidence that the content is free from legal issues and complies with the Apache license.
c) Graduate the Incubator (it’s expected you make releases and know how to do so)
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
If we don’t make a releases, we can’t:
a) Distribute content via Apache mirrors.
b) Give confidence that the content is free from legal issues and complies with the Apache license.
c) Graduate the Incubator (it’s expected you make releases and know how to do so)
Thanks,
Justin
Re: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Posted by Lars Francke <la...@gmail.com>.
I don't have a strong opinion but I'm not sure we even need releases for
the content.
Various websites are also just updated without a release process -
including apache.org itself.
I'm not a big fan on voting for releases every time we fix a typo but I'm
not sure if the other extreme - no releases - is any better...
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:30 AM Ryan Skraba <ry...@skraba.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Is there some documentation or discussion about how
> presentations/resources/the project is released? From some previous
> messages, it seems like we plan on releasing training resources
> individually (such as ApacheWay Training 1.0, Ignite Training 1.1).
>
> I imagine that incubation is the right time and place to work out
> details of the process (voting per presentation release, tags,
> publishing artifacts, where to announce/list published content
> releases, etc).
>
> A snapshot version of a presentation in /content can depend on the
> snapshot version of resources and parent right? I'd love to see one
> of the existing presentations redone on top of the archetype to prove
> and test it. I can give it a try on the /content/spark/1-basics
> presentation at https://github.com/apache/incubator-training/pull/59
> if you'd like, but I'm just plodding away on that content when I have
> some spare time.
>
> Or do you think it would be best to just do a release of these
> artifacts and work out the kinks based on that experience?
>
> Best regards, Ryan
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:41 AM Christofer Dutz
> <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > in order to really use the changes I just pushed, we should probably
> fine tune them (especially the CSS and static resources) and do a first
> release soon.
> > Otherwise other presentations can’t be released based on them.
> >
> > Chris
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Release the parent, resources and archetype ASAP?
Posted by Ryan Skraba <ry...@skraba.com>.
Hello!
Is there some documentation or discussion about how
presentations/resources/the project is released? From some previous
messages, it seems like we plan on releasing training resources
individually (such as ApacheWay Training 1.0, Ignite Training 1.1).
I imagine that incubation is the right time and place to work out
details of the process (voting per presentation release, tags,
publishing artifacts, where to announce/list published content
releases, etc).
A snapshot version of a presentation in /content can depend on the
snapshot version of resources and parent right? I'd love to see one
of the existing presentations redone on top of the archetype to prove
and test it. I can give it a try on the /content/spark/1-basics
presentation at https://github.com/apache/incubator-training/pull/59
if you'd like, but I'm just plodding away on that content when I have
some spare time.
Or do you think it would be best to just do a release of these
artifacts and work out the kinks based on that experience?
Best regards, Ryan
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 11:41 AM Christofer Dutz
<ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> in order to really use the changes I just pushed, we should probably fine tune them (especially the CSS and static resources) and do a first release soon.
> Otherwise other presentations can’t be released based on them.
>
> Chris