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Posted to java-dev@axis.apache.org by "Banck, Arent-Jan" <aj...@informatica.com> on 2005/01/14 16:13:17 UTC
RE: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release)
Hmm missed the 1 year 1.2 anniversary.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Opatha [mailto:topatha@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:25 PM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org; dims@yahoo.com; tomj@macromedia.com;
iasandcb@tmax.co.kr
Cc: axis-user@ws.apache.org; glen@thoughtcraft.com
Subject: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and
release)
I think it is extremely important that we release:
0) AXIS 1.2 Beta by early Jan. '04
1) AXIS 1.2 Final Release by mid-Jan. '04
2) AXIS 1.3 Release by mid-Feb to mid-March '04
AXIS 1.2 should be bug-fix release of AXIS 1.1 such that we have
minimal code changes in AXIS 1.1-based web services applications and
clients.
AXIS 1.3 should be a WS-I BP 1.0 conformant release. The sooner
we can get a beta and/or alpha version of AXIS 1.3 with BP enhancements
it would be useful for the AXIS dev community to test with other WS-I BP
1.0 conforming run-times. If there are some known bug-fixes that will
help in AXIS 1.3 BP 1.0 conformance, I would recommend that they be
included in AXIS 1.2.
These dates seem to echo the discussions in attached e-mail.
Hence, may we get some clarification from AXIS 1.2 release
coordinator that we can stick to above dates?
Is there an AXIS 1.2 Beta distribution currently available? The
earlier we get that, the easier it will be to test it to confirm its
stability.
Thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:dims@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:19 AM
To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
At the end of the day, it's Glen's call as the Release Manager.
Am +1 to 1.2 Mid Jan and 1.3 soon
after with BP. Right now the major crunch is running the TCK's.
thanks,
dims
--- Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> To tell you the truth, I would prefer that we didn't delay the
release.
>
> "Bug fixes" in the 1.2 case include vastly improved
document/literal
> support, way faster WSDL processing, more logical type
handling, support for
> Servlet 2.3 and session lifecycle events, cleaner code with
better JavaDoc
> and fewer dead lines.... and that's not even all. Seems like
enough for a
> release to me.
>
> I am very concerned tha
t if we hold off we will get into a long cycle of
> delays (as has happened before) which will hold this up until
March or
> April, and I'd frankly rather move towards releases earlier
and more often
> until we get the bug count down at least into the double
digits.
>
> So I'm not in any way against working on all this stuff (and
more besides),
> but I'd like to get 1.2 out in mid-January as planned, and I'd
be more than
> happy with a BP-compliant 1.3 in March or so.
>
> --Glen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Jordahl" <to...@macromedia.com>
> To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
>
>
> >
> > In talking with folks around here, we would be in favor of
delaying the
> 1.2
> > release until we can claim WS-I Basic Profile 1.0
conformance. Macromedia
> > would be willing to help out with testing resources for this
effort.
> >
> > It will be late January before there are resources here to
run the TCK,
> and
> > we would very much like to get BP 1.0 as a feature of the
1.2 release.
> >
> > The question I was asked is "What does 1.2 give me?" "Bug
fixes" wasn't
> > thought to be very compelling, while "WS-I BP 1.0
conformance" is
> something
> > that gets a much better reaction.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > --
> > Tom Jordahl
> > Macromedia Server Development
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:tomj@macromedia.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:28 AM
> > To: 'axis-dev@ws.apache.org'
> > Subject: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
> >
> >
> > Here is a proposal (discussed with Dims) about how Axis 1.2
should proceed
> > to move toward a 1.2 release.
> >
> > - Create Axis 1.2 beta in the next 3 weeks
> > - After beta, run the JAX-RPC/SAAJ TCK 1.1 and resolve
failures
> > - After we pass the TCK, we release 1.2
> >
> > I am trying to get commitments from our teams here to run
our JRun and
> > ColdFusion regressions on the current 1.2 bits. And I will
attempt to get
> > resources to execute the TCKs (on JRun) here as well.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Can anyone else run the TCK at their organization?
> >
> > --
> > Tom Jordahl
> > Macromedia Server Development
> >
> >
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Re: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and
release)
Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@apache.org>.
WAJSBERG Julien RD-BIZZ wrote:
> Davanum Srinivas a écrit :
>
>> Arent,
>>
>> If u ask me, if we did not have to run the TCK's. each of the RC's are
>> a release by themselves. On the plus side, we've finally automated
>> running the TCK (starting from scratch on a box that has nothing on it
>> :). So things should improve from now on. Once folks get back from
>> their W3C meetings downunder, you should see a RC (the final one)
>>
>> -- dims
>>
>>
> I think you should actually release something that don't look like
> "beta" or "release candidate", it frightens some people.
they need to get over the fact that amount of support you get for RC
versus release is the same (its the mail lists), and stability is
relatively similar too. And in all situations, the first response to any
bugrep is "have you tried CVS_HEAD"
An issue w/ Axis is that it has to pass the TCKs before a full release,
to pass the relevant terms and conditions.
-steve
Re: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and
release)
Posted by WAJSBERG Julien RD-BIZZ <ju...@francetelecom.com>.
Davanum Srinivas a écrit :
>Arent,
>
>If u ask me, if we did not have to run the TCK's. each of the RC's are
>a release by themselves. On the plus side, we've finally automated
>running the TCK (starting from scratch on a box that has nothing on it
>:). So things should improve from now on. Once folks get back from
>their W3C meetings downunder, you should see a RC (the final one)
>
>-- dims
>
>
I think you should actually release something that don't look like
"beta" or "release candidate", it frightens some people.
And you should release more often :) Remember : "release early, release
often"
The actual improvements between 1.1 and current 1.2RC are impressive. I
would like to thank all developers for their work :)
--
Julien
Re: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release)
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
Arent,
If u ask me, if we did not have to run the TCK's. each of the RC's are
a release by themselves. On the plus side, we've finally automated
running the TCK (starting from scratch on a box that has nothing on it
:). So things should improve from now on. Once folks get back from
their W3C meetings downunder, you should see a RC (the final one)
-- dims
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:13:17 +0100, Banck, Arent-Jan
<aj...@informatica.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm missed the 1 year 1.2 anniversary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Opatha [mailto:topatha@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:25 PM
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org; dims@yahoo.com; tomj@macromedia.com;
> iasandcb@tmax.co.kr
> Cc: axis-user@ws.apache.org; glen@thoughtcraft.com
> Subject: AXIS 1.2 Release Plan (Was: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and
> release)
>
>
>
>
>
> I think it is extremely important that we release:
>
> 0) AXIS 1.2 Beta by early Jan. '04
>
> 1) AXIS 1.2 Final Release by mid-Jan. '04
>
> 2) AXIS 1.3 Release by mid-Feb to mid-March '04
>
> AXIS 1.2 should be bug-fix release of AXIS 1.1 such that we have minimal
> code changes in AXIS 1.1-based web services applications and clients.
>
> AXIS 1.3 should be a WS-I BP 1.0 conformant release. The sooner we can get a
> beta and/or alpha version of AXIS 1.3 with BP enhancements it would be
> useful for the AXIS dev community to test with other WS-I BP 1.0 conforming
> run-times. If there are some known bug-fixes that will help in AXIS 1.3 BP
> 1.0 conformance, I would recommend that they be included in AXIS 1.2.
>
> These dates seem to echo the discussions in attached e-mail.
>
> Hence, may we get some clarification from AXIS 1.2 release coordinator that
> we can stick to above dates?
>
> Is there an AXIS 1.2 Beta distribution currently available? The earlier we
> get that, the easier it will be to test it to confirm its stability.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:dims@yahoo.com]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:19 AM
>
> To: axis-dev@ws.apache.org
>
> Subject: Re: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
>
>
>
> At the end of the day, it's Glen's call as the Release Manager. Am +1 to 1.2
> Mid Jan and 1.3 soon
>
> after with BP. Right now the major crunch is running the TCK's.
>
> thanks,
>
> dims
>
> --- Glen Daniels <gl...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
>
> > To tell you the truth, I would prefer that we didn't delay the release.
>
> >
>
> > "Bug fixes" in the 1.2 case include vastly improved document/literal
>
> > support, way faster WSDL processing, more logical type handling, support
> for
>
> > Servlet 2.3 and session lifecycle events, cleaner code with better JavaDoc
>
> > and fewer dead lines.... and that's not even all. Seems like enough for a
>
> > release to me.
>
> >
>
> > I am very concerned tha
>
> t if we hold off we will get into a long cycle of
>
> > delays (as has happened before) which will hold this up until March or
>
> > April, and I'd frankly rather move towards releases earlier and more often
>
> > until we get the bug count down at least into the double digits.
>
> >
>
> > So I'm not in any way against working on all this stuff (and more
> besides),
>
> > but I'd like to get 1.2 out in mid-January as planned, and I'd be more
> than
>
> > happy with a BP-compliant 1.3 in March or so.
>
> >
>
> > --Glen
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "Tom Jordahl" <to...@macromedia.com>
>
> > To: <ax...@ws.apache.org>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:14 PM
>
> > Subject: RE: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> > > In talking with folks around here, we would be in favor of delaying the
>
> > 1.2
>
> > > release until we can claim WS-I Basic Profile 1.0 conformance.
> Macromedia
>
> > > would be willing to help out with testing resources for this effort.
>
> > >
>
> > > It will be late January before there are resources here to run the TCK,
>
> > and
>
> > > we would very much like to get BP 1.0 as a feature of the 1.2 release.
>
> > >
>
> > > The question I was asked is "What does 1.2 give me?" "Bug fixes" wasn't
>
> > > thought to be very compelling, while "WS-I BP 1.0 conformance" is
>
> > something
>
> > > that gets a much better reaction.
>
> > >
>
> > > What do you think?
>
> > >
>
> > > --
>
> > > Tom Jordahl
>
> > > Macromedia Server Development
>
> > >
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
>
> > > From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:tomj@macromedia.com]
>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:28 AM
>
> > > To: 'axis-dev@ws.apache.org'
>
> > > Subject: Moving toward Axis 1.2 beta and release
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Here is a proposal (discussed with Dims) about how Axis 1.2 should
> proceed
>
> > > to move toward a 1.2 release.
>
> > >
>
> > > - Create Axis 1.2 beta in the next 3 weeks
>
> > > - After beta, run the JAX-RPC/SAAJ TCK 1.1 and resolve failures
>
> > > - After we pass the TCK, we release 1.2
>
> > >
>
> > > I am trying to get commitments from our teams here to run our JRun and
>
> > > ColdFusion regressions on the current 1.2 bits. And I will attempt to
> get
>
> > > resources to execute the TCKs (on JRun) here as well.
>
> > >
>
> > > Comments?
>
> > >
>
> > > Can anyone else run the TCK at their organization?
>
> > >
>
> > > --
>
> > > Tom Jordahl
>
> > > Macromedia Server Development
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
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