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XML Document Editor freely available
Interesting :-):
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Re: minimalist
Posted by Geoff Howard <co...@leverageweb.com>.
It's a total reworking of the build process that can probably be expected
to take days or weeks, not months or years. Since we originally talked
the core build is working - it now completely avoids all samples out of the
box (and figuring the samples out is not done yet). As I remember your
desire was to build a minimal build that you could add your sitemap and
setup to, so you may have what you need already. Do a current cvs checkout
of 2.1dev, or get a very recent snapshot.
Geoff
At 11:26 AM 2/25/2003, you wrote:
>Any idea when this reworking will be done ? (days, weeks, months, or years ?
>:)
>Is it just a fixing/cleaning up of the build system or is he actually
>upgrading it to some new ideas (which? )
>
>many thanks for the replies already btw. :)
>
>On Wednesday 19 February 2003 14:32, Geoff Howard wrote:
> > Well, you may want to wait a little to see what Stefano comes up with in
> > reworking the build process - it may make things easier.
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Re: minimalist
Posted by Jeroen Cranendonk <j....@emaxx.nl>.
Any idea when this reworking will be done ? (days, weeks, months, or years ?
:)
Is it just a fixing/cleaning up of the build system or is he actually
upgrading it to some new ideas (which? )
many thanks for the replies already btw. :)
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 14:32, Geoff Howard wrote:
> Well, you may want to wait a little to see what Stefano comes up with in
> reworking the build process - it may make things easier.
> >I've seen pages on the web on creating a minimal cocoon 2.0 setup
> >(only the neccecary jar files to run, a sitemap only specifying what the
> >app you're building needs, absolutely no cocoon samples etc. )
> >but haven't found one describing how to do this for the cvs development
> >version, cause I have to put this thing with jars and all under cvs I'd
> >really like to know how tho :)
> >what especially interests me is what is the minimal list of jar files
> > needed, I've tried removing everything that's originally under /optional,
> > but then things go wrong quite a bit.
> >
> >Also I wonder what's the best way to build cocoon with as little samples
> >and sample related files as possible ?
> >
> >Any help 'd be greatly appreciated.
> > Jeroen Cranedonk
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Re: minimalist
Posted by Mark Eggers <it...@yahoo.com>.
Here's the skeleton of a document I'm writing about a
procedure that worked for me. I tried to pass all of
this information via the build scripts, but all I got
back was the prompt (and no build). I ran everything
by using the Ant that comes with the CVS download of
Cocoon.
Since I currently only have a Win/2000 machine to work
on, the notes have a Windows flavor. Do the normal
DOS->UNIX translation to get the UNIX version.
If you want to reduce the size of Cocoon, you'll want
to avoid adding -Dinclude.scratchpad.libs=yes as well
as adding the optional libs I put in on steps 2 and 3.
My purpose in putting this together was to build a
sandbox that I could use to experiment with various
Cocoon ideas and prototype applications.
Hopefully I'll get this entire thing written up, as
well as the appropriate 2.04 documentation sometime
soon.
HTH
/mde/
just my two cents . . . .
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Re: minimalist
Posted by Geoff Howard <co...@leverageweb.com>.
Well, you may want to wait a little to see what Stefano comes up with in
reworking the build process - it may make things easier.
Also, do a build -projecthelp to see if there is a built in target that
does this out of the box. I think there was at some point, but don't know
if it's kept up with the most recent changes.
I haven't tried this in a while with 2.1dev, but the basic roadmap would be
to edit properties.xml to comment out as many blocks as desired. There are
also some build properties to exclude things like javadocs, docs, and
samples though you'll have to dig through build.xml to find them and
experiment to see if they work as advertised.
I believe there will also be the following caveats:
1) Not everything is refactored into blocks yet, so you'll need to also
remove unwanted stuff from lib/optional (remember to also edit jars.xml to
remove references to anything you remove from optional). It sounds like
you did this part - can you be more specific about what went wrong?
2) There are some blocks that are still required (this should get fixed) so
you will have to add them back in even if you don't need them.
3) There are some blocks that bundle in things you may want to get rid of.
For example, if you need the database components you need to include the
database block, but that also gets you the hsql component (although
excluding samples may exclude it as well) which you probably don't
want. You'd then have to remove that by hand (by editing cocoon.xconf, and
web.xml)
4) There will be other tricks along the way - this is an area that is still
being worked out.
If you start working on this, report back specifics as you go and I or
others can help move things along.
Geoff Howard
At 04:26 AM 2/19/2003, you wrote:
>I've seen pages on the web on creating a minimal cocoon 2.0 setup
>(only the neccecary jar files to run, a sitemap only specifying what the
>app you're building needs, absolutely no cocoon samples etc. )
>but haven't found one describing how to do this for the cvs development
>version, cause I have to put this thing with jars and all under cvs I'd
>really like to know how tho :)
>what especially interests me is what is the minimal list of jar files needed,
>I've tried removing everything that's originally under /optional, but then
>things go wrong quite a bit.
>
>Also I wonder what's the best way to build cocoon with as little samples
>and sample related files as possible ?
>
>Any help 'd be greatly appreciated.
> Jeroen Cranedonk
>
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minimalist
Posted by Jeroen Cranendonk <j....@emaxx.nl>.
I've seen pages on the web on creating a minimal cocoon 2.0 setup
(only the neccecary jar files to run, a sitemap only specifying what the
app you're building needs, absolutely no cocoon samples etc. )
but haven't found one describing how to do this for the cvs development
version, cause I have to put this thing with jars and all under cvs I'd
really like to know how tho :)
what especially interests me is what is the minimal list of jar files needed,
I've tried removing everything that's originally under /optional, but then
things go wrong quite a bit.
Also I wonder what's the best way to build cocoon with as little samples
and sample related files as possible ?
Any help 'd be greatly appreciated.
Jeroen Cranedonk
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Re: XML Document Editor freely available
Posted by "karthikeyan.balasubramanian" <ka...@aspiresys.com>.
Yeah thats true
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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: XML Document Editor freely available
>
>
> On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 01:07 US/Pacific, Matthew Langham wrote:
>
> > Interesting :-):
> >
> > http://www.econtentmag.com/ecxtra/2003/2003_0218/2003_0218_3.html
>
> Too bad is Windows only... No Linux or MacOS X versions :(
>
> Thanks, but I'll stick to Emacs :)
>
> Cheers,
> Ovidiu
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Re: XML Document Editor freely available
Posted by Darren Petrie <dp...@anteon.com>.
The sad part is that the "free" license only allows you to edit XML
files that have an accompanying configuration file. This configuration
file is created by their other products XMLSpy or Stylesheet Designer.
So it's really not usable unless you've bought into their products.
We've started using the XML Editor Oxygen which runs on Windows, Linux
or MacOS X. We're pretty happy with it. We are looking at possibly
rolling it out to our content developers.
http://www.oxygenxml.com
Darren
On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 01:33 AM, Ovidiu Predescu wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 01:07 US/Pacific, Matthew Langham wrote:
>
>> Interesting :-):
>>
>> http://www.econtentmag.com/ecxtra/2003/2003_0218/2003_0218_3.html
>
> Too bad is Windows only... No Linux or MacOS X versions :(
>
> Thanks, but I'll stick to Emacs :)
>
> Cheers,
> Ovidiu
>
>
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Re: XML Document Editor freely available
Posted by Ovidiu Predescu <ov...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 01:07 US/Pacific, Matthew Langham wrote:
> Interesting :-):
>
> http://www.econtentmag.com/ecxtra/2003/2003_0218/2003_0218_3.html
Too bad is Windows only... No Linux or MacOS X versions :(
Thanks, but I'll stick to Emacs :)
Cheers,
Ovidiu
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Re: XML Document Editor freely available
Posted by Ovidiu Predescu <ov...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 01:07 US/Pacific, Matthew Langham wrote:
> Interesting :-):
>
> http://www.econtentmag.com/ecxtra/2003/2003_0218/2003_0218_3.html
Too bad is Windows only... No Linux or MacOS X versions :(
Thanks, but I'll stick to Emacs :)
Cheers,
Ovidiu
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