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[jira] Created: (CAMEL-931) Sensible deafults for mail component
Sensible deafults for mail component
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Key: CAMEL-931
URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
Project: Apache Camel
Issue Type: Improvement
Components: camel-mail
Affects Versions: 1.4.0
Reporter: Atle Prange
Priority: Minor
When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-931) Sensible deafults for mail component
Posted by "Atle Prange (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Atle Prange commented on CAMEL-931:
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Yes, the defaults should be the same for all protocols, because even if pop3 is meant to download messages, it makes sense to tell the users of camel that "camel-mail does not delete your mail on the server, and only reads unread mail by default". Then the users can override this behavior if necessary.
defaults should be:
deleteProcessedMessages = false
processOnlyUnseenMessages = true
> Sensible deafults for mail component
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>
> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Priority: Minor
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> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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[jira] Resolved: (CAMEL-931) Sensible deafults for mail component
Posted by "Claus Ibsen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Claus Ibsen resolved CAMEL-931.
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Fix Version/s: 1.5.0
Resolution: Fixed
Thanks for reporting this. I have changed the defaults and updated the wiki and the release notes as well.
> Sensible deafults for mail component
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>
> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Assignee: Claus Ibsen
> Priority: Minor
> Fix For: 1.5.0
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> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-931) Sensible deafults for mail component
Posted by "Atle Prange (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Atle Prange commented on CAMEL-931:
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Yes i agree. I mentioned imap in particular since users usually expect that the messages stay on the server (since that is the main motivation for using imap instead of pop3).
If the defaults are changed for all protocols, it should be accompanied with a a paragraph in the documentation that clearly states the delete / read behaviour. (wich is not the expected behaviour for pop3...)
> Sensible deafults for mail component
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>
> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Priority: Minor
>
> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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[jira] Commented: (CAMEL-931) Sensible deafults for mail component
Posted by "Claus Ibsen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-931:
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Atle, if you have a good default for the different protocols
- pop3
- imap
And maybe for sending as well
- smtp
Then feel free to write them here. However I would be a bit confused if Camel would default to different settings depending if I had pop3 or imap. This is hard to guess / read.
However I do think that deleting=true is a bit to harsh, maybe its best to force end-users to configure this to true if the need it.
However only processing unread mail is what I would like to be default, as I would not suspect consuming the same mail message again on next polling.
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> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Priority: Minor
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> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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[jira] Assigned: (CAMEL-931) Sensible deafults for mail component
Posted by "Claus Ibsen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Claus Ibsen reassigned CAMEL-931:
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Assignee: Claus Ibsen
> Sensible deafults for mail component
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> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Assignee: Claus Ibsen
> Priority: Minor
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> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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Claus Ibsen commented on CAMEL-931:
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Atle, what if your suggestion is the default for all mail protocols? To keep it consistent?
> Sensible deafults for mail component
> ------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Priority: Minor
>
> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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Atle Prange commented on CAMEL-931:
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Yes, the defaults should be the same for all protocols, because even if
pop3 is meant to download messages, it makes sense to tell the users of
camel that "camel-mail does not delete your mail on the server, and only
reads unread mail by default". Then the users can override this behavior
if necessary.
defaults should be:
deleteProcessedMessages = false
processOnlyUnseenMessages = true
> Sensible deafults for mail component
> ------------------------------------
>
> Key: CAMEL-931
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-931
> Project: Apache Camel
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: camel-mail
> Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> Reporter: Atle Prange
> Priority: Minor
>
> When using imap, the mail component defaults should be to not delete incoming mail, and only process unread messages.
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