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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> on 2007/04/15 20:39:42 UTC

Re: [cli-avalon] svn commit: r529044 - /jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml

On 4/15/07, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> Author: sebb
> Date: Sun Apr 15 11:33:27 2007
> New Revision: 529044
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=529044
> Log:
> Create minimal POM
>
> Added:
>     jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml   (with props)
>
> Added: jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml?view=auto&rev=529044
> ==============================================================================
> --- jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml (added)
> +++ jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml Sun Apr 15 11:33:27 2007
> @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@
> +<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> +<!--
> +   Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
> +   contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file distributed with
> +   this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
> +   The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
> +   (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with
> +   the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
> +
> +       http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
> +
> +   Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
> +   distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
> +   WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
> +   See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
> +   limitations under the License.
> +-->
> +<project
> +    xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"
> +    xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
> +    xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/maven-v4_0_0.xsd">
> +  <parent>
> +    <groupId>org.apache.commons</groupId>
> +    <artifactId>commons-parent</artifactId>
> +    <version>1</version>
> +  </parent>
> +  <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
> +  <groupId>commons-cli-avalon</groupId>
> +  <artifactId>commons-cli-avalon</artifactId>
<snip/>

Since this a new component, we should preferably discuss its creation
(then have a vote if needed etc.).

-Rahul



> +  <version>2.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
> +  <name>CLI-Avalon</name>
> +
> +  <inceptionYear>2002</inceptionYear>
> +  <description>
> +    Commons CLI (Avalon) provides a simple API for processing and
> +    validating a command line interface.
> +  </description>
> +
> +  <url>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/cli/</url>
> +
> +  <issueManagement>
> +    <system>jira</system>
> +    <url>http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLI</url>
> +  </issueManagement>
> +
> +  <scm>
> +              <connection>scm:svn:http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation</connection>
> +    <developerConnection>scm:svn:https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation</developerConnection>
> +                                <url>http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation</url>
> +  </scm>
> +
> +
> +  <dependencies>
> +
> +    <!-- used for unit tests -->
> +    <dependency>
> +      <groupId>junit</groupId>
> +      <artifactId>junit</artifactId>
> +      <version>3.8.1</version>
> +      <scope>test</scope>
> +    </dependency>
> +
> +    <!-- used for unit tests -->
> +    <dependency>
> +      <groupId>jdepend</groupId>
> +      <artifactId>jdepend</artifactId>
> +      <version>2.5</version>
> +      <scope>test</scope>
> +    </dependency>
> +
> +  </dependencies>
> +
> +  <build>
> +    <sourceDirectory>src/java</sourceDirectory>
> +    <testSourceDirectory>src/test</testSourceDirectory>
> +    <resources>
> +        <resource>
> +          <directory>src/java/org/apache/commons/cli/avalon</directory>
> +          <targetPath>org/apache/commons/cli/avalon</targetPath>
> +          <includes>
> +            <include>**/*.properties</include>
> +          </includes>
> +        </resource>
> +        <resource>
> +          <directory>.</directory>
> +          <targetPath>META-INF</targetPath>
> +          <includes>
> +            <include>NOTICE.txt</include>
> +            <include>LICENSE.txt</include>
> +          </includes>
> +        </resource>
> +    </resources>
> +  </build>
> +
> +</project>
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>
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>
> Propchange: jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml
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Re: [cli-avalon] svn commit: r529044 - /jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml

Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On 4/15/07, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15/04/07, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 4/15/07, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Author: sebb
> > > Date: Sun Apr 15 11:33:27 2007
> > > New Revision: 529044
> > >
> > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=529044
> > > Log:
> > > Create minimal POM
> > >
> > > Added:
> > >     jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml   (with props)
>
> [...]
>
> > Since this a new component, we should preferably discuss its creation
> > (then have a vote if needed etc.).
>
> Not sure I follow that - all I've done is create a Pom so it can be
> built independently - the code has been in SVN for some while now,
> waiting for someone to do a release (please!)
>
<snip/>

If we look at what defines a component in the maven sense, we are
talking about the {groupId,artifactId} tuple, which is new in the POM
you added (my comment was under the <artifactId> line, I should have
spelt that out instead). In terms of development in Commons, I think
of branches as potentially different lines of development of the same
component, rather than potentially different components.

For [cli], we've ended up with a divergent set of codebases and
releasing each is probably not making it better. Its confusing,
suboptimal, and hopefully, avoidable. If enough of us want to see more
than one cli-ish component released out of Commons, then IMO it would
be nice to (not in any temporal order):

 * Treat this as component creation (rather than just another [cli]
release), and acceptance into Commons Proper is usually via a vote
 * Have a [cli-avalon] site
 * Have all cli-ish components' sites point to each other, explain why
there are more than one, why users should prefer one over the other
etc.

-Rahul


> Sebb
>

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Re: [cli-avalon] svn commit: r529044 - /jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 15/04/07, Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/15/07, sebb@apache.org <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Author: sebb
> > Date: Sun Apr 15 11:33:27 2007
> > New Revision: 529044
> >
> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=529044
> > Log:
> > Create minimal POM
> >
> > Added:
> >     jakarta/commons/proper/cli/branches/avalon-implementation/pom.xml   (with props)

[...]

> Since this a new component, we should preferably discuss its creation
> (then have a vote if needed etc.).

Not sure I follow that - all I've done is create a Pom so it can be
built independently - the code has been in SVN for some while now,
waiting for someone to do a release (please!)

Sebb

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