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Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Dear OGNL Developers,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report 
for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC 
requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow 
sufficient time for review.

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and 
subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you 
should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report
----------------------

Your report should contain the following:

 * Your project name
 * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
   or necessarily of its field
 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards 
   graduation.
 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
 * How has the community developed since the last report
 * How has the project developed since the last report.
 
This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011

Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
      created from a template.

Mentors
-------
Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the 
Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the 
project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.

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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
Thanks guys.
I have just signed off.

2011/8/1 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
> Hi Christian,
> thanks a lot for taking care of it, looks much better of what I reported!!!
> Moreover, if last time we reported late, looks like this time we are
> the first! :D
> Thanks a lot, have a nice evening!!!
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Simo,
>>
>> I added it as you said. Please let me know if I stripped off to much
>> or if you have other objections. Otherwise we have done our duty ;-)
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Christian!!!
>>> agreed. I reported too quickly and didn't pay enough attention on
>>> discriminating what we previously reported - and what I should have
>>> put out from the c'n'p :P
>>> Feel free to modify the report according to your latest observations!!!
>>> Thanks for taking care of it, very appreciated!
>>> Have a nice day, all the best!
>>> Simo
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Simo,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a
>>>> question (to all).
>>>>
>>>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>>>> towards graduation.
>>>>>
>>>>>  - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the
>>>>> compliancy level of OGNL to Commons policies;
>>>>>  - attract more users, at the moment only Apache Struts people are
>>>>> interested because they heavily use OGNL;
>>>>>  - attract new committers.
>>>>
>>>> Is this all true?
>>>>
>>>> Do we really need a release -before- we graduate?
>>>> Do we really need to attract more users-before- we graduate? Struts is
>>>> already huge.
>>>> Do we really need more committers (it is already a long list) -before-
>>>> we graduate?
>>>>
>>>> At this point I think we have no open issues before we graduate. I
>>>> think we can write "no open issues" - what do you think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>>>
>>>>>  - not every PPMC member joined the private ML yet;
>>>>
>>>> Guess this is not necessary for the IPMC or ASF Board to know. instead
>>>> we should ping our people to subscribe now :-)
>>>>
>>>> The rest is fine for me (maybe a bit long ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>>  - due to OpenSymphony dismissing, we need importing old issues to ASF
>>>>> jira. We finally contacted someone from OpenSymphony and obtained the
>>>>> huge Issue dump/XML backup, there is someone that is working on it,
>>>>> but due to security policy (the dump contains also users and password
>>>>> hashes), before importing it, an open-heart surgery is needed.
>>>>>  - we started speaking about a possible OGNL graduation: most of the
>>>>> community is already in commons and/or struts, so OGNL has a proven
>>>>> community which will not go away after a while. If OGNL will fail, it
>>>>> will become a dormant component within commons. People here of course
>>>>> know about the apache way. There are only two people (Marc Andrew and
>>>>> Luke) new to the
>>>>> ASF, but they could learn the apache way as every other new committer to
>>>>> commons (if necessary).
>>>>>
>>>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>>>
>>>>> Community activity decreased since codebase has been imported &
>>>>> polished; we finally reached Luc Blanchard, the other OGNL original
>>>>> author, that signed & submitted the OGNL SoftwareGrant & ICLA - we
>>>>> also voted him as a new committer since he should have been included
>>>>> in the initial committers list
>>>>>
>>>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>>>
>>>>> A reported above, codebase has been imported & polished, we are in the
>>>>> middle of a big refactoring stripping off generated code by JavaCC
>>>>> that was versioned in the SCM and modified.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed off by mentor:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM,  <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear OGNL Developers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
>>>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
>>>>>> board report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report
>>>>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
>>>>>> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
>>>>>> sufficient time for review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
>>>>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
>>>>>> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Submitting your Report
>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  * Your project name
>>>>>>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>>>>>>   or necessarily of its field
>>>>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>>>>>>   graduation.
>>>>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>>>>>>      created from a template.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mentors
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
>>>>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>>>>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Christian,
thanks a lot for taking care of it, looks much better of what I reported!!!
Moreover, if last time we reported late, looks like this time we are
the first! :D
Thanks a lot, have a nice evening!!!
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Simo,
>
> I added it as you said. Please let me know if I stripped off to much
> or if you have other objections. Otherwise we have done our duty ;-)
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>
> Cheers
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Christian!!!
>> agreed. I reported too quickly and didn't pay enough attention on
>> discriminating what we previously reported - and what I should have
>> put out from the c'n'p :P
>> Feel free to modify the report according to your latest observations!!!
>> Thanks for taking care of it, very appreciated!
>> Have a nice day, all the best!
>> Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Simo,
>>>
>>> thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a
>>> question (to all).
>>>
>>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>>> towards graduation.
>>>>
>>>>  - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the
>>>> compliancy level of OGNL to Commons policies;
>>>>  - attract more users, at the moment only Apache Struts people are
>>>> interested because they heavily use OGNL;
>>>>  - attract new committers.
>>>
>>> Is this all true?
>>>
>>> Do we really need a release -before- we graduate?
>>> Do we really need to attract more users-before- we graduate? Struts is
>>> already huge.
>>> Do we really need more committers (it is already a long list) -before-
>>> we graduate?
>>>
>>> At this point I think we have no open issues before we graduate. I
>>> think we can write "no open issues" - what do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>>
>>>>  - not every PPMC member joined the private ML yet;
>>>
>>> Guess this is not necessary for the IPMC or ASF Board to know. instead
>>> we should ping our people to subscribe now :-)
>>>
>>> The rest is fine for me (maybe a bit long ;-))
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>>  - due to OpenSymphony dismissing, we need importing old issues to ASF
>>>> jira. We finally contacted someone from OpenSymphony and obtained the
>>>> huge Issue dump/XML backup, there is someone that is working on it,
>>>> but due to security policy (the dump contains also users and password
>>>> hashes), before importing it, an open-heart surgery is needed.
>>>>  - we started speaking about a possible OGNL graduation: most of the
>>>> community is already in commons and/or struts, so OGNL has a proven
>>>> community which will not go away after a while. If OGNL will fail, it
>>>> will become a dormant component within commons. People here of course
>>>> know about the apache way. There are only two people (Marc Andrew and
>>>> Luke) new to the
>>>> ASF, but they could learn the apache way as every other new committer to
>>>> commons (if necessary).
>>>>
>>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>>
>>>> Community activity decreased since codebase has been imported &
>>>> polished; we finally reached Luc Blanchard, the other OGNL original
>>>> author, that signed & submitted the OGNL SoftwareGrant & ICLA - we
>>>> also voted him as a new committer since he should have been included
>>>> in the initial committers list
>>>>
>>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>>
>>>> A reported above, codebase has been imported & polished, we are in the
>>>> middle of a big refactoring stripping off generated code by JavaCC
>>>> that was versioned in the SCM and modified.
>>>>
>>>> Signed off by mentor:
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM,  <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> Dear OGNL Developers,
>>>>>
>>>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
>>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
>>>>> board report.
>>>>>
>>>>> The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report
>>>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
>>>>> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
>>>>> sufficient time for review.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
>>>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
>>>>> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>>>
>>>>> Submitting your Report
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>  * Your project name
>>>>>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>>>>>   or necessarily of its field
>>>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>>>>>   graduation.
>>>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>>>
>>>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>>>>>      created from a template.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mentors
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
>>>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>>>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simo,

I added it as you said. Please let me know if I stripped off to much
or if you have other objections. Otherwise we have done our duty ;-)
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011

Cheers

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Christian!!!
> agreed. I reported too quickly and didn't pay enough attention on
> discriminating what we previously reported - and what I should have
> put out from the c'n'p :P
> Feel free to modify the report according to your latest observations!!!
> Thanks for taking care of it, very appreciated!
> Have a nice day, all the best!
> Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Simo,
>>
>> thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a
>> question (to all).
>>
>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>>> towards graduation.
>>>
>>>  - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the
>>> compliancy level of OGNL to Commons policies;
>>>  - attract more users, at the moment only Apache Struts people are
>>> interested because they heavily use OGNL;
>>>  - attract new committers.
>>
>> Is this all true?
>>
>> Do we really need a release -before- we graduate?
>> Do we really need to attract more users-before- we graduate? Struts is
>> already huge.
>> Do we really need more committers (it is already a long list) -before-
>> we graduate?
>>
>> At this point I think we have no open issues before we graduate. I
>> think we can write "no open issues" - what do you think?
>>
>>
>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>
>>>  - not every PPMC member joined the private ML yet;
>>
>> Guess this is not necessary for the IPMC or ASF Board to know. instead
>> we should ping our people to subscribe now :-)
>>
>> The rest is fine for me (maybe a bit long ;-))
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christian
>>
>>>  - due to OpenSymphony dismissing, we need importing old issues to ASF
>>> jira. We finally contacted someone from OpenSymphony and obtained the
>>> huge Issue dump/XML backup, there is someone that is working on it,
>>> but due to security policy (the dump contains also users and password
>>> hashes), before importing it, an open-heart surgery is needed.
>>>  - we started speaking about a possible OGNL graduation: most of the
>>> community is already in commons and/or struts, so OGNL has a proven
>>> community which will not go away after a while. If OGNL will fail, it
>>> will become a dormant component within commons. People here of course
>>> know about the apache way. There are only two people (Marc Andrew and
>>> Luke) new to the
>>> ASF, but they could learn the apache way as every other new committer to
>>> commons (if necessary).
>>>
>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>
>>> Community activity decreased since codebase has been imported &
>>> polished; we finally reached Luc Blanchard, the other OGNL original
>>> author, that signed & submitted the OGNL SoftwareGrant & ICLA - we
>>> also voted him as a new committer since he should have been included
>>> in the initial committers list
>>>
>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>
>>> A reported above, codebase has been imported & polished, we are in the
>>> middle of a big refactoring stripping off generated code by JavaCC
>>> that was versioned in the SCM and modified.
>>>
>>> Signed off by mentor:
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM,  <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Dear OGNL Developers,
>>>>
>>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
>>>> board report.
>>>>
>>>> The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report
>>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
>>>> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
>>>> sufficient time for review.
>>>>
>>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
>>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
>>>> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>>
>>>> Submitting your Report
>>>> ----------------------
>>>>
>>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>>
>>>>  * Your project name
>>>>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>>>>   or necessarily of its field
>>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>>>>   graduation.
>>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>>
>>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>>
>>>>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>>>>
>>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>>>>      created from a template.
>>>>
>>>> Mentors
>>>> -------
>>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
>>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>>>>
>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Christian!!!
agreed. I reported too quickly and didn't pay enough attention on
discriminating what we previously reported - and what I should have
put out from the c'n'p :P
Feel free to modify the report according to your latest observations!!!
Thanks for taking care of it, very appreciated!
Have a nice day, all the best!
Simo

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Simo,
>
> thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a
> question (to all).
>
>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>> towards graduation.
>>
>>  - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the
>> compliancy level of OGNL to Commons policies;
>>  - attract more users, at the moment only Apache Struts people are
>> interested because they heavily use OGNL;
>>  - attract new committers.
>
> Is this all true?
>
> Do we really need a release -before- we graduate?
> Do we really need to attract more users-before- we graduate? Struts is
> already huge.
> Do we really need more committers (it is already a long list) -before-
> we graduate?
>
> At this point I think we have no open issues before we graduate. I
> think we can write "no open issues" - what do you think?
>
>
>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>
>>  - not every PPMC member joined the private ML yet;
>
> Guess this is not necessary for the IPMC or ASF Board to know. instead
> we should ping our people to subscribe now :-)
>
> The rest is fine for me (maybe a bit long ;-))
>
> Cheers,
> Christian
>
>>  - due to OpenSymphony dismissing, we need importing old issues to ASF
>> jira. We finally contacted someone from OpenSymphony and obtained the
>> huge Issue dump/XML backup, there is someone that is working on it,
>> but due to security policy (the dump contains also users and password
>> hashes), before importing it, an open-heart surgery is needed.
>>  - we started speaking about a possible OGNL graduation: most of the
>> community is already in commons and/or struts, so OGNL has a proven
>> community which will not go away after a while. If OGNL will fail, it
>> will become a dormant component within commons. People here of course
>> know about the apache way. There are only two people (Marc Andrew and
>> Luke) new to the
>> ASF, but they could learn the apache way as every other new committer to
>> commons (if necessary).
>>
>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>
>> Community activity decreased since codebase has been imported &
>> polished; we finally reached Luc Blanchard, the other OGNL original
>> author, that signed & submitted the OGNL SoftwareGrant & ICLA - we
>> also voted him as a new committer since he should have been included
>> in the initial committers list
>>
>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>
>> A reported above, codebase has been imported & polished, we are in the
>> middle of a big refactoring stripping off generated code by JavaCC
>> that was versioned in the SCM and modified.
>>
>> Signed off by mentor:
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM,  <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Dear OGNL Developers,
>>>
>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
>>> board report.
>>>
>>> The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report
>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
>>> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
>>> sufficient time for review.
>>>
>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
>>> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>
>>> Submitting your Report
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>
>>>  * Your project name
>>>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>>>   or necessarily of its field
>>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>>>   graduation.
>>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>
>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>
>>>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>>>
>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>>>      created from a template.
>>>
>>> Mentors
>>> -------
>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simo,

thanks for doing that report again. Just wanted to submit, but have a
question (to all).

>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
> towards graduation.
>
>  - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the
> compliancy level of OGNL to Commons policies;
>  - attract more users, at the moment only Apache Struts people are
> interested because they heavily use OGNL;
>  - attract new committers.

Is this all true?

Do we really need a release -before- we graduate?
Do we really need to attract more users-before- we graduate? Struts is
already huge.
Do we really need more committers (it is already a long list) -before-
we graduate?

At this point I think we have no open issues before we graduate. I
think we can write "no open issues" - what do you think?


>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>
>  - not every PPMC member joined the private ML yet;

Guess this is not necessary for the IPMC or ASF Board to know. instead
we should ping our people to subscribe now :-)

The rest is fine for me (maybe a bit long ;-))

Cheers,
Christian

>  - due to OpenSymphony dismissing, we need importing old issues to ASF
> jira. We finally contacted someone from OpenSymphony and obtained the
> huge Issue dump/XML backup, there is someone that is working on it,
> but due to security policy (the dump contains also users and password
> hashes), before importing it, an open-heart surgery is needed.
>  - we started speaking about a possible OGNL graduation: most of the
> community is already in commons and/or struts, so OGNL has a proven
> community which will not go away after a while. If OGNL will fail, it
> will become a dormant component within commons. People here of course
> know about the apache way. There are only two people (Marc Andrew and
> Luke) new to the
> ASF, but they could learn the apache way as every other new committer to
> commons (if necessary).
>
>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>
> Community activity decreased since codebase has been imported &
> polished; we finally reached Luc Blanchard, the other OGNL original
> author, that signed & submitted the OGNL SoftwareGrant & ICLA - we
> also voted him as a new committer since he should have been included
> in the initial committers list
>
>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>
> A reported above, codebase has been imported & polished, we are in the
> middle of a big refactoring stripping off generated code by JavaCC
> that was versioned in the SCM and modified.
>
> Signed off by mentor:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM,  <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Dear OGNL Developers,
>>
>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
>> board report.
>>
>> The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report
>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
>> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
>> sufficient time for review.
>>
>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
>> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>
>> Submitting your Report
>> ----------------------
>>
>> Your report should contain the following:
>>
>>  * Your project name
>>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>>   or necessarily of its field
>>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>>   graduation.
>>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>
>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>
>>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>>
>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>>      created from a template.
>>
>> Mentors
>> -------
>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>>
>> Incubator PMC
>>
>>
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Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (dev@commons.apache.org)

Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi all guys,
follows below my report, it contains part copied from July since they
didn't accept we reported after the deadline. Mentors: please sign and
paste on Wiki! :P
TIA, all the best and have a nice day!!!
Simo

OGNL

Apache OGNL is a Java development framework for Object-Graph
Navigation Language, plus other extras such as list projection and
selection and lambda expressions.

The project joined the Incubator on April 26, 2011.

 * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
towards graduation.

 - make at least a big release that shows to Commons PMC the
compliancy level of OGNL to Commons policies;
 - attract more users, at the moment only Apache Struts people are
interested because they heavily use OGNL;
 - attract new committers.

 * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of

 - not every PPMC member joined the private ML yet;
 - due to OpenSymphony dismissing, we need importing old issues to ASF
jira. We finally contacted someone from OpenSymphony and obtained the
huge Issue dump/XML backup, there is someone that is working on it,
but due to security policy (the dump contains also users and password
hashes), before importing it, an open-heart surgery is needed.
 - we started speaking about a possible OGNL graduation: most of the
community is already in commons and/or struts, so OGNL has a proven
community which will not go away after a while. If OGNL will fail, it
will become a dormant component within commons. People here of course
know about the apache way. There are only two people (Marc Andrew and
Luke) new to the
ASF, but they could learn the apache way as every other new committer to
commons (if necessary).

 * How has the community developed since the last report

Community activity decreased since codebase has been imported &
polished; we finally reached Luc Blanchard, the other OGNL original
author, that signed & submitted the OGNL SoftwareGrant & ICLA - we
also voted him as a new committer since he should have been included
in the initial committers list

 * How has the project developed since the last report.

A reported above, codebase has been imported & polished, we are in the
middle of a big refactoring stripping off generated code by JavaCC
that was versioned in the SCM and modified.

Signed off by mentor:

http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://www.99soft.org/



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM,  <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear OGNL Developers,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for  Wed, 17 August 2011, 10 am Pacific. The report
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
> sufficient time for review.
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
> ----------------------
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
>  * Your project name
>  * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
>   or necessarily of its field
>  * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
>   graduation.
>  * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
>  * How has the community developed since the last report
>  * How has the project developed since the last report.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
>  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2011
>
> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
>      created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> -------
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>
> Incubator PMC
>
>
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