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Posted to user@tika.apache.org by Subhajit Das <Su...@live.com> on 2021/04/13 09:29:07 UTC
Tika Docker licence
Hi,
The Tika Docker image (full) uses ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’. The licence used by it is Microsoft licence and dosen’t seems to allow commercial use.
Can any please confirm if it is ok to use? Or should a customized version to be used for production?
Thanks and Regards,
Subhajit Das
Re: Tika Docker licence
Posted by Subhajit Das <su...@live.com>.
Hi Lewis,
Any comment?
Thanks and Regards,
Subhajit Das
On Apr 17 2021, at 8:20 am, Lewis John McGibbney <le...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Subhajit,
> Please point me to the code for the ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’.
> Thanks
>
> On 2021/04/13 09:29:07, Subhajit Das <Su...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Tika Docker image (full) uses ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’. The licence used by it is Microsoft licence and dosen’t seems to allow commercial use.
> >
> > Can any please confirm if it is ok to use? Or should a customized version to be used for production?
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Subhajit Das
> >
>
Re: Tika Docker licence
Posted by Nick Burch <ap...@gagravarr.org>.
On Sat, 17 Apr 2021, Lewis John McGibbney wrote:
> Please point me to the code for the ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’.
The bit of the Tika docker file that pulls them in is:
https://github.com/apache/tika-docker/blob/master/full/Dockerfile#L21
I think the EULA (which we auto-accept during installation) is
http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/eula.htm
They're certainly not Open Source or Free. Assuming that's the right
license though, there's no restrictions on use, nothing anti-commercial or
anything like that
Nick
Re: Tika Docker licence
Posted by Subhajit Das <su...@live.com>.
Hi Lewis,
Not sure about source code availability.
This is package (and cabextract) might be closed sourced. Not sure though.
Thanks and Regards,
Subhajit Das
On 17-Apr-2021 8:20 am, Lewis John McGibbney <le...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Subhajit,
> Please point me to the code for the ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’.
> Thanks
>
> On 2021/04/13 09:29:07, Subhajit Das <Su...@live.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Tika Docker image (full) uses ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’. The
licence used by it is Microsoft licence and dosen’t seems to allow commercial
use.
> >
> > Can any please confirm if it is ok to use? Or should a customized version
to be used for production?
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Subhajit Das
> >
>
Re: Tika Docker licence
Posted by Lewis John McGibbney <le...@apache.org>.
Hi Subhajit,
Please point me to the code for the ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’.
Thanks
On 2021/04/13 09:29:07, Subhajit Das <Su...@live.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The Tika Docker image (full) uses ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’. The licence used by it is Microsoft licence and dosen’t seems to allow commercial use.
>
> Can any please confirm if it is ok to use? Or should a customized version to be used for production?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Subhajit Das
>
Re: Tika Docker licence
Posted by Subhajit Das <su...@live.com>.
Hi Nick,
Yes, I understand the complexity.
But, I didn't see any warning/disclaimer in either DockerHub or Github, for the full version.
As the built binary (docker image) is available under Apache name, that's why I thought, it would be good to have clarity for end user.
Attatching the screenshot of the licence. The licence is strictly non-commercial.
Maybe we can have a Disclaimer about these packages.
Also, there might be another edition without the Microsoft packages. Possibly, with alternate packages as well.
For my project's use, I had to port the docker image for centos. At that time I saw no disclaimer. Thus, I checked in details.
Thanks and Regards,
Subhajit Das
On Apr 17 2021, at 1:44 am, Nick Burch <ap...@gagravarr.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, Subhajit Das wrote:
> > The Tika Docker image (full) uses ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’. The
> > licence used by it is Microsoft licence and dosen’t seems to allow
> > commercial use.
> >
> > Can any please confirm if it is ok to use? Or should a customized
> > version to be used for production?
>
> Licensing of docker images can be complex... There's the licenses of each
> image layer's dockerfile, the licenses of the things those image layers
> pull in, and possibly a license for the resulting image.
>
> Depending on if you publish a certain layer, or just use it locally, the
> distribution clause in a lot of licenses may or may not get triggered. Not
> all docker image hosting services fully comply with all license terms, eg
> providing the source for hosted GPL binaries. It's complicated, and fairly
> easy to end up in hot water if you don't do your due diligence!
>
>
> If you have very specific needs, I would suggest finding a base image you
> are happy with license-wise, then grab just the Tika components you want
> on top of that. Use our dockerfile as a guide of how to install and run
> Tika.
>
>
> Apache Tika itself, and all required dependencies are available under the
> Apache License v2 or similar, see
> https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html for the general policy we work
> to. Some of the command line tools we can call out to, and things they
> use, may be under other licenses (especially copyleft ones), but those are
> all optional.
>
> Nick
Re: Tika Docker licence
Posted by Nick Burch <ap...@gagravarr.org>.
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, Subhajit Das wrote:
> The Tika Docker image (full) uses ‘ttf-mscorefonts-installer’. The
> licence used by it is Microsoft licence and dosen’t seems to allow
> commercial use.
>
> Can any please confirm if it is ok to use? Or should a customized
> version to be used for production?
Licensing of docker images can be complex... There's the licenses of each
image layer's dockerfile, the licenses of the things those image layers
pull in, and possibly a license for the resulting image.
Depending on if you publish a certain layer, or just use it locally, the
distribution clause in a lot of licenses may or may not get triggered. Not
all docker image hosting services fully comply with all license terms, eg
providing the source for hosted GPL binaries. It's complicated, and fairly
easy to end up in hot water if you don't do your due diligence!
If you have very specific needs, I would suggest finding a base image you
are happy with license-wise, then grab just the Tika components you want
on top of that. Use our dockerfile as a guide of how to install and run
Tika.
Apache Tika itself, and all required dependencies are available under the
Apache License v2 or similar, see
https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html for the general policy we work
to. Some of the command line tools we can call out to, and things they
use, may be under other licenses (especially copyleft ones), but those are
all optional.
Nick