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Posted to users@myfaces.apache.org by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> on 2008/02/07 08:03:57 UTC
Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
They should be included - I see:
web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd
web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd and
web-facesconfig_1_2.xsd
in the source under impl/src/main/resources
However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
check:
1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
have problems using MyFaces offline)
2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
regards,
Martin
On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is included
> with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file is
> licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one clause added
> as follows:
>
>
>
> "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or intended
> for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear
> facility."
>
>
>
> Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in the NOTICE
> file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear to
> resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all, rather it
> appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
>
>
>
> Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the modified BSD
> is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Barb Cochrane
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
RE: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Posted by Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org>.
Thanks for clarifying!
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:53 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Cc: Leonardo Uribe
Subject: Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Hi Barb,
they will not reflect the CDDL - there has been a long discussion on
this on legal, and the outcome was that all dtd-files have been
manually retyped by an Apache committer, and are now under
ASL-license. So the notice.txt will not be amended to reflect the
CDDL, but no reference at all for these dtds. Expect the change in the
next release.
regards,
Martin
On Feb 7, 2008 9:15 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I should have asked this morning...when (timing) & how (version) will the
> notice.txt and license.txt files be amended to reflect the CDDL?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:41 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2
Jar
>
>
> Ah right, we retyped them - so notice.txt should not refer to this
> anymore at all.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 2/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > > However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
> > > ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
> > > works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
> > > the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
> > > check:
> >
> > perhaps that was Craig Russell:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@shale.apache.org/msg01447.html
> >
> > that is a long email thread, it was mainly discussed on "legal-discuss"
> > I haven't re-read it, but I think that Grant Smith worked on the DTDs
> > (he basically re-typed them)...
> >
> > not sure if that helps.
> >
> > >
> > > 1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
> > > have problems using MyFaces offline)
> > > 2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is
> included
> > > > with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file
is
> > > > licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one
clause
> > added
> > > > as follows:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or
> > intended
> > > > for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any
> > nuclear
> > > > facility."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in
the
> > NOTICE
> > > > file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear
> to
> > > > resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all,
rather
> > it
> > > > appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the
modified
> > BSD
> > > > is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Barb Cochrane
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > Courses in English and German
> > >
> > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Barb,
they will not reflect the CDDL - there has been a long discussion on
this on legal, and the outcome was that all dtd-files have been
manually retyped by an Apache committer, and are now under
ASL-license. So the notice.txt will not be amended to reflect the
CDDL, but no reference at all for these dtds. Expect the change in the
next release.
regards,
Martin
On Feb 7, 2008 9:15 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I should have asked this morning...when (timing) & how (version) will the
> notice.txt and license.txt files be amended to reflect the CDDL?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Barb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:41 AM
> To: MyFaces Discussion
> Subject: Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
>
>
> Ah right, we retyped them - so notice.txt should not refer to this
> anymore at all.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 2/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > > However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
> > > ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
> > > works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
> > > the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
> > > check:
> >
> > perhaps that was Craig Russell:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@shale.apache.org/msg01447.html
> >
> > that is a long email thread, it was mainly discussed on "legal-discuss"
> > I haven't re-read it, but I think that Grant Smith worked on the DTDs
> > (he basically re-typed them)...
> >
> > not sure if that helps.
> >
> > >
> > > 1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
> > > have problems using MyFaces offline)
> > > 2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is
> included
> > > > with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file is
> > > > licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one clause
> > added
> > > > as follows:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or
> > intended
> > > > for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any
> > nuclear
> > > > facility."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in the
> > NOTICE
> > > > file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear
> to
> > > > resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all, rather
> > it
> > > > appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the modified
> > BSD
> > > > is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Barb Cochrane
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > > Courses in English and German
> > >
> > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
RE: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Posted by Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org>.
Thanks everyone. Greatly appreciated!
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:41 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Ah right, we retyped them - so notice.txt should not refer to this
anymore at all.
regards,
Martin
On 2/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> > However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
> > ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
> > works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
> > the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
> > check:
>
> perhaps that was Craig Russell:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@shale.apache.org/msg01447.html
>
> that is a long email thread, it was mainly discussed on "legal-discuss"
> I haven't re-read it, but I think that Grant Smith worked on the DTDs
> (he basically re-typed them)...
>
> not sure if that helps.
>
> >
> > 1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
> > have problems using MyFaces offline)
> > 2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is
included
> > > with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file is
> > > licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one clause
> added
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or
> intended
> > > for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any
> nuclear
> > > facility."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in the
> NOTICE
> > > file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear
to
> > > resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all, rather
> it
> > > appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the modified
> BSD
> > > is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Barb Cochrane
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
RE: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Posted by Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org>.
Martin,
I should have asked this morning...when (timing) & how (version) will the
notice.txt and license.txt files be amended to reflect the CDDL?
Thanks.
Barb
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:martin.marinschek@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:41 AM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Subject: Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Ah right, we retyped them - so notice.txt should not refer to this
anymore at all.
regards,
Martin
On 2/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> > However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
> > ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
> > works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
> > the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
> > check:
>
> perhaps that was Craig Russell:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@shale.apache.org/msg01447.html
>
> that is a long email thread, it was mainly discussed on "legal-discuss"
> I haven't re-read it, but I think that Grant Smith worked on the DTDs
> (he basically re-typed them)...
>
> not sure if that helps.
>
> >
> > 1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
> > have problems using MyFaces offline)
> > 2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is
included
> > > with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file is
> > > licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one clause
> added
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or
> intended
> > > for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any
> nuclear
> > > facility."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in the
> NOTICE
> > > file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear
to
> > > resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all, rather
> it
> > > appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the modified
> BSD
> > > is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Barb Cochrane
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Ah right, we retyped them - so notice.txt should not refer to this
anymore at all.
regards,
Martin
On 2/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> > However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
> > ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
> > works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
> > the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
> > check:
>
> perhaps that was Craig Russell:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@shale.apache.org/msg01447.html
>
> that is a long email thread, it was mainly discussed on "legal-discuss"
> I haven't re-read it, but I think that Grant Smith worked on the DTDs
> (he basically re-typed them)...
>
> not sure if that helps.
>
> >
> > 1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
> > have problems using MyFaces offline)
> > 2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is included
> > > with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file is
> > > licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one clause
> added
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or
> intended
> > > for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any
> nuclear
> > > facility."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in the
> NOTICE
> > > file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear to
> > > resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all, rather
> it
> > > appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the modified
> BSD
> > > is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Barb Cochrane
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: License Question: web-facesconfig.dtd for MyFaces Impl 1.2 Jar
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hey,
> However, these files have been licensed to the ASF using an
> ASL-license by Sun, kudos to one of the Apache Committers who also
> works at Sun (as far as I remember - can anybody throw in a mail?). So
> the notice.txt file needs to be adapted, @Leonardo, can you please
> check:
perhaps that was Craig Russell:
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@shale.apache.org/msg01447.html
that is a long email thread, it was mainly discussed on "legal-discuss"
I haven't re-read it, but I think that Grant Smith worked on the DTDs
(he basically re-typed them)...
not sure if that helps.
>
> 1) if the files are in the jar (they should be, else our users will
> have problems using MyFaces offline)
> 2) that the notice.txt is adapted accordingly.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 3:09 PM, Barb Cochrane <ba...@eclipse.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a licensing question re web-facesconfig.dtd file that is included
> > with MyFaces Impl 1.2.jar. According to the source code, that file is
> > licensed under what looks to be modified BSD license *with* one clause added
> > as follows:
> >
> >
> >
> > "You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or intended
> > for use in the design, construction, operation or maintenance of any nuclear
> > facility."
> >
> >
> >
> > Yet, when I check on http://java.sun.com/dtd/ (as is suggested in the NOTICE
> > file), the license referenced for web-facesconfig.dtd doesn't appear to
> > resemble the modified BSD license with the added clause at all, rather it
> > appears to be dual GPL / CDDL license.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can any MyFaces project members out there confirm whether the modified BSD
> > is actually the prevailing license for this implementation?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > Barb Cochrane
>
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
further stuff:
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org