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Change in the Windows installer
Hi,
I really don't know if a final decision are made about how to treat the
trunk this days, so I'll ask here first:
I want to get rid of the debug symbol files (*.pdb) from the Windows
Installer. They occupies just to much space (both in the installer and
very much in the user's machine) and I can't recall that they have been
in use so far.
If the they really are required for managing to track errors if/when
something crash (how often is it?) then a compromise can be made:
-Let the debug files be an option when installing. If something goes
wrong on the user's machine, then she/he can run the installer again
and include the *.pdb files (it will just take some few seconds and
the installer knows where to install the files). Then a report can
be sent to the dev list.
Unpacked size of the *.pdb files included in the installer: 88.2 MB!
Total size of the files unpacked by the installer is 100 MB!
Size of unpacked files without installing *.pdb files: Around 12 MB.
A change in the installer in order to use one of the two options above is
trivial and should not destabilized anything, but the advantages for the
user (we are doing this for the users, right?) are huge.
So: I want to change the installer a little bit. I want to get rid of the
symbol files but do not have a problem with including them and let the
end user choose to install them as an option.
Jostein
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Re: Change in the Windows installer
Posted by Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>.
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 07:33, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
> I do this for now (have tested it and it works of course). The svn.iss
> file and I are eager to commit it to the trunk. I will do so within a
> few hours if no objections against committing the change occures.
Go ahead and do it. This is not a change to svn code itself, but to a
3rd-party installer tool. I don't think it has anything to do with our
"freeze trunk" policy.
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Re: Change in the Windows installer
Posted by "Jostein Chr. Andersen" <jo...@josander.net>.
Thanks for feedback guys!
On Friday 12 December 2003 10.00, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
> -Let the debug files be an option when installing. If something goes
> wrong on the user's machine, then she/he can run the installer again
> and include the *.pdb files (it will just take some few seconds and
> the installer knows where to install the files). Then a report can
> be sent to the dev list.
I do this for now (have tested it and it works of course). The svn.iss
file and I are eager to commit it to the trunk. I will do so within a
few hours if no objections against committing the change occures.
Jostein
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Re: Change in the Windows installer
Posted by "Jostein Chr. Andersen" <jo...@josander.net>.
On Wednesday 17 December 2003 02.06, Branko Čibej wrote:
> This is issue 1628. The full installer which contains development
> libraries should include .pdb files, too. This minimal installer
> doesn't have to, but it would be nice to have at least the crash
> handler.
The .pdb are in the minimum installer for 0.35.0 (as an option for the
end user).
It would be really nice to have #1628 finished before 1.0. To bad that my
C/C++ knowlegde is so limited. It would be nice to extend the minimum
installer a little bit and still have a small-sized distro.
Jostein
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Re: Change in the Windows installer
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@xbc.nu>.
This is issue 1628. The full installer which contains development
libraries should include .pdb files, too. This minimal installer doesn't
have to, but it would be nice to have at least the crash handler.
Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I really don't know if a final decision are made about how to treat the
>trunk this days, so I'll ask here first:
>
>I want to get rid of the debug symbol files (*.pdb) from the Windows
>Installer. They occupies just to much space (both in the installer and
>very much in the user's machine) and I can't recall that they have been
>in use so far.
>
>If the they really are required for managing to track errors if/when
>something crash (how often is it?) then a compromise can be made:
>
> -Let the debug files be an option when installing. If something goes
> wrong on the user's machine, then she/he can run the installer again
> and include the *.pdb files (it will just take some few seconds and
> the installer knows where to install the files). Then a report can
> be sent to the dev list.
>
>Unpacked size of the *.pdb files included in the installer: 88.2 MB!
>Total size of the files unpacked by the installer is 100 MB!
>Size of unpacked files without installing *.pdb files: Around 12 MB.
>
>A change in the installer in order to use one of the two options above is
>trivial and should not destabilized anything, but the advantages for the
>user (we are doing this for the users, right?) are huge.
>
>So: I want to change the installer a little bit. I want to get rid of the
>symbol files but do not have a problem with including them and let the
>end user choose to install them as an option.
>
>Jostein
>
>
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Re: Change in the Windows installer
Posted by Mike Mason <mg...@thoughtworks.net>.
Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
>I want to get rid of the debug symbol files (*.pdb) from the Windows
>Installer. They occupies just to much space (both in the installer and
>very much in the user's machine) and I can't recall that they have been
>in use so far.
>
>
I think you should get rid of them from the installer completely, since
it will reduce the size of the download. Most users will never need
debug symbols, and someone diligent enough to figure out what to do with
debug symbols will probably be happy enough to download them.
Mike.
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