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Posted to dev@river.apache.org by Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> on 2010/08/23 11:07:05 UTC
Committer List
Hi all,
Stealing the approach from here;
http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-committers.html
Here's a list of our SVN committers.
btmurphy
bvenners
fbarnaby
foliver
jcosters
jhurley
jukka
marbro
pdp8
peter_firmstone
peter_jones
ramirjf
resendes
rscheifler
thobbs
vinod
This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on this
list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
Thanks,
Tom
Re: Committer List
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
There's a list checked in at Apache of the formal committers. I'll find it.
Part of the graduation process is to find out who on this list is
still in the game.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Stealing the approach from here;
>
> http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-committers.html
>
> Here's a list of our SVN committers.
>
> btmurphy
> bvenners
> fbarnaby
> foliver
> jcosters
> jhurley
> jukka
> marbro
> pdp8
> peter_firmstone
> peter_jones
> ramirjf
> resendes
> rscheifler
> thobbs
> vinod
>
> This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
> there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on this
> list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
Re: Committer List
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
Bob Scheifler wrote:
> On 8/23/2010 12:10 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> Anybody no longer active should be
>> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
>
> Please remove me.
>
> - Bob
>
Hi Bob,
Just thought I'd mention that I consider the Jini proxy trust security
mechanisms a very clever solution to a very difficult problem, so thank
you, for what it's worth ;)
Peter.
Re: Committer List
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Bob Scheifler <rs...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 8/23/2010 12:10 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> Anybody no longer active should be
>> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
>
> Please remove me.
You have now been marked as an emeritus committer and I've disabled
your svn access. Just let us know if want to get more involved again,
and we'll be happy to restore your active committer status.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: Committer List
Posted by Bob Scheifler <rs...@comcast.net>.
On 8/23/2010 12:10 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Anybody no longer active should be
> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
Please remove me.
- Bob
Re: Committer List
Posted by Nigel Daley <nd...@mac.com>.
I'm here. But have been thinking for some time that I should go emeritus. Please move me to the emeritus list.
Thanks,
Nige
On Aug 24, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Tom,
>
> There turns out to be a wide selection of opinions on this subject
> :-). I think it makes sense to send a round of individual emails.
> Anyone who positively opts out, or who doesn't respond and hasn't be
> heard from in two years, we make emeritus. Then, when the time comes
> to form up the initial TLP PMC, we'll have a reasonable list at hand.
>
> Chances are this will have the effect of reducing the ratio of
> Sun/Oracle affiliations to others, which will make it easier to
> graduate.
>
> --benson
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> When you talk about polling the existing/historic committers, do you mean
>> send each an individual email and ask; or is it enough to post on list and
>> wait for responses?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Here is the official list of committers:
>>>
>>>
>>> river=btmurphy,bvenners,dancres,geirm,fbarnaby,foliver,gianugo,jcosters,jhurley,marbro,nigel,pdp8,peter_firmstone,peter_jones,psteitz,ramirjf,resendes,rjmann,rscheifler,thobbs,vinod,waldo
>>>
>>> Everybody here should be listed on the site-author project page.
>>> Everybody not here should not. Anybody no longer active should be
>>> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Stealing the approach from here;
>>>>
>>>> http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-committers.html
>>>>
>>>> Here's a list of our SVN committers.
>>>>
>>>> btmurphy
>>>> bvenners
>>>> fbarnaby
>>>> foliver
>>>> jcosters
>>>> jhurley
>>>> jukka
>>>> marbro
>>>> pdp8
>>>> peter_firmstone
>>>> peter_jones
>>>> ramirjf
>>>> resendes
>>>> rscheifler
>>>> thobbs
>>>> vinod
>>>>
>>>> This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
>>>> there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on
>>> this
>>>> list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Committer List
Posted by Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Brian Murphy <bt...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Fred Oliver Last seen Mar 2008
>
>
> For what it's worth, Fred has been quite active on the list
> lately; in which he has been partaking in a number of very
> interesting (at least to me) exchanges with Peter Firmstone.
> So, I'd hate to see a decision made that is based on inaccurate
> information.
>
> Brian
>
Yes, you're absolutely right. My bad on that one. Sorry Fred.
Re: Committer List
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
No one is interested in previous affiliation. I would be most grateful
if everyone would edit this to reflect their personal current
situation.
The Incubator rule is 'not too dependent on one company.' There's no
bias here; there would have been just as large of a question mark of
12 people had all worked for any other company. If the current reality
is a mixed bag of nuts, that means, AFAIKT, that this project is just
about ready for graduation.
We also have a couple of new committers according to mail from Jukka,
perhaps someone can add them?
Re: Committer List
Posted by Brian Murphy <bt...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:19 AM, <co...@apache.org> wrote:
Update committer list
>
> Edited by Jukka Zitting:
> |Jim Waldo|Sun Microsystems
> |John McClain|Sun Microsystems
> |Peter Jones|Sun Microsystems
> |Juan Ramirez|Sun Microsystems
> |Frank Barnaby|Sun Microsystems
> |Fred Oliver| Sun Microsystems
> |Robert Resendes|Sun Microsystems
> |Vinod Johnson|Sun Microsystems
> |Ron Mann|Sun Microsystems
> |Jim Hurley|Sun Microsystems
>
> Emeriti:
> ||Name||Organization
> |Bob Scheifler|Sun Microsystems
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
Chances are this will have the effect of reducing the ratio of
> Sun/Oracle affiliations to others, which will make it easier to
> graduate.
For what it's worth, none of the people on Zukka's updated
commiter list above are affiliated with Sun, nor are they
affiliated with Oracle; and haven't been for quite some time.
If a committer's affiliation with a given company is going to
affect the decision of whether or not a project can graduate,
then it seems like it's probably important to update all committer
affiliations with the latest information before making such a
decision.
With respect to this specific case (river graduation), since I've
seen numerous (sometimes biased) references to the Sun
affiliation of the various committers, I'm wondering how long
after a committer leaves a company that a such an affiliation
no longer affects graduation. Does the process address this
question, either directly or indirectly?
For example, with respect to Hadoop and its sub-projects
(specifically, Zookeeper), what was the ratio of Yahoo! developers
to non-Yahoo! developers? And if that ratio was high, what
allowed those projects to graduate? I ask because I see
(anecdotally, based on the Zookeeper developer list traffic)
about the same number of active Zookeeper posters/committers
as I do on the river list.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> here are the stats for the committers (according to the dev list archive)
>
> Fred Oliver Last seen Mar 2008
For what it's worth, Fred has been quite active on the list
lately; in which he has been partaking in a number of very
interesting (at least to me) exchanges with Peter Firmstone.
So, I'd hate to see a decision made that is based on inaccurate
information.
Brian
Re: Committer List
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Tom,
There turns out to be a wide selection of opinions on this subject
:-). I think it makes sense to send a round of individual emails.
Anyone who positively opts out, or who doesn't respond and hasn't be
heard from in two years, we make emeritus. Then, when the time comes
to form up the initial TLP PMC, we'll have a reasonable list at hand.
Chances are this will have the effect of reducing the ratio of
Sun/Oracle affiliations to others, which will make it easier to
graduate.
--benson
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> When you talk about polling the existing/historic committers, do you mean
> send each an individual email and ask; or is it enough to post on list and
> wait for responses?
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Here is the official list of committers:
>>
>>
>> river=btmurphy,bvenners,dancres,geirm,fbarnaby,foliver,gianugo,jcosters,jhurley,marbro,nigel,pdp8,peter_firmstone,peter_jones,psteitz,ramirjf,resendes,rjmann,rscheifler,thobbs,vinod,waldo
>>
>> Everybody here should be listed on the site-author project page.
>> Everybody not here should not. Anybody no longer active should be
>> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Stealing the approach from here;
>> >
>> > http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-committers.html
>> >
>> > Here's a list of our SVN committers.
>> >
>> > btmurphy
>> > bvenners
>> > fbarnaby
>> > foliver
>> > jcosters
>> > jhurley
>> > jukka
>> > marbro
>> > pdp8
>> > peter_firmstone
>> > peter_jones
>> > ramirjf
>> > resendes
>> > rscheifler
>> > thobbs
>> > vinod
>> >
>> > This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
>> > there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on
>> this
>> > list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>>
>
Re: Committer List
Posted by Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com>.
Going from Benson's official list, here are the stats for the committers
(according to the dev list archive)
Bill Venners Last seen Jan 2008
Bob Scheifler Withdrawn Aug 2010
Brian Murphy Last seen Mar 2010
Dan Creswell Withdrawn Jan 2009
Frank Barnaby Last seen Dec 2009
Fred Oliver Last seen Mar 2008
Geir Magnusson Jr "Stepped back" Apr 2007
Gianugo Rabellino Last seen Jan 2008
Jim Hurley Last seen Aug 2010
Jim Waldo Last seen Apr 2010
John McClain Last seen Dec 2009 (pdp8)
Juan Ramirez Last seen Dec 2007 (ramirjf)
Mark Brouwer Last seen Jan 2010
Nigel Daley Last seen Oct 2009
Peter Jones Last seen Oct 2009
Phil Steitz Last seen Sep 2007
Robert Resendes Last seen May 2008
Ron Mann Last seen Mar 2008
Vinod Johnson Last seen Feb 2008
jcosters Active
peter_firmstone Active
thobbs Active (ish)
No SVN login for Niclas, Jukka or Benson; is that correct?
(My apologies if I've got a few dates wrong, mail archives all seem to look
the same if you spend long enough searching for names!)
So same question, do I reach out to each one privately, or just put a note
on Dev asking for anyone who want to remain to reply?
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> When you talk about polling the existing/historic committers, do you mean
> send each an individual email and ask; or is it enough to post on list and
> wait for responses?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Here is the official list of committers:
>>
>> river=btmurphy,bvenners,dancres,geirm,fbarnaby,foliver,gianugo,jcosters,
>> jhurley,marbro,nigel,pdp8,peter_firmstone,peter_jones,
>> psteitz,ramirjf,resendes,rjmann,rscheifler,thobbs,vinod,waldo
>>
>> Everybody here should be listed on the site-author project page.
>> Everybody not here should not. Anybody no longer active should be
>> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Stealing the approach from here;
>> >
>> > http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-
>> committers.html
>> >
>> > Here's a list of our SVN committers.
>> >
>> > btmurphy
>> > bvenners
>> > fbarnaby
>> > foliver
>> > jcosters
>> > jhurley
>> > jukka
>> > marbro
>> > pdp8
>> > peter_firmstone
>> > peter_jones
>> > ramirjf
>> > resendes
>> > rscheifler
>> > thobbs
>> > vinod
>> >
>> > This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
>> > there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on
>> this
>> > list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Committer List
Posted by Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com>.
When you talk about polling the existing/historic committers, do you mean
send each an individual email and ask; or is it enough to post on list and
wait for responses?
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Here is the official list of committers:
>
>
> river=btmurphy,bvenners,dancres,geirm,fbarnaby,foliver,gianugo,jcosters,jhurley,marbro,nigel,pdp8,peter_firmstone,peter_jones,psteitz,ramirjf,resendes,rjmann,rscheifler,thobbs,vinod,waldo
>
> Everybody here should be listed on the site-author project page.
> Everybody not here should not. Anybody no longer active should be
> contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Stealing the approach from here;
> >
> > http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-committers.html
> >
> > Here's a list of our SVN committers.
> >
> > btmurphy
> > bvenners
> > fbarnaby
> > foliver
> > jcosters
> > jhurley
> > jukka
> > marbro
> > pdp8
> > peter_firmstone
> > peter_jones
> > ramirjf
> > resendes
> > rscheifler
> > thobbs
> > vinod
> >
> > This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
> > there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on
> this
> > list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
Re: Committer List
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Here is the official list of committers:
river=btmurphy,bvenners,dancres,geirm,fbarnaby,foliver,gianugo,jcosters,jhurley,marbro,nigel,pdp8,peter_firmstone,peter_jones,psteitz,ramirjf,resendes,rjmann,rscheifler,thobbs,vinod,waldo
Everybody here should be listed on the site-author project page.
Everybody not here should not. Anybody no longer active should be
contacted and polled to see if they should removed.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Tom Hobbs <tv...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Stealing the approach from here;
>
> http://www.justatheory.com/computers/tricks/list-all-svn-committers.html
>
> Here's a list of our SVN committers.
>
> btmurphy
> bvenners
> fbarnaby
> foliver
> jcosters
> jhurley
> jukka
> marbro
> pdp8
> peter_firmstone
> peter_jones
> ramirjf
> resendes
> rscheifler
> thobbs
> vinod
>
> This is only a list of people who have performed a commit operation. If
> there are committers who haven't committed yet, then they won't be on this
> list. Can anyone think of any committers who fit that description?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>