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[1.4] - Internet Explorer Problems (IE 6 and IE7)

Hi

Two problems with IE 6/7


1) Currently the Lenya Backend is served with an xml Prolog. This is  
correct for xhtml BUT IE 6 goes crazy and switches to its quirks mode  
(resulting in a bigger font size - the website looks ugly). xhtml can  
be served without xml Prolog. So my suggestion is to use the  
serializer option omit-xml-declaration for lenya.

2) The content Type of the lenya backend is application/xml. IE 6 AND  
IE 7 don't know how to handle this correctly (see http:// 
blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx). I think the  
content Type should be text/html.


WDYT?


Jürgen





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Re: [1.4] - Internet Explorer Problems (IE 6 and IE7)

Posted by Jürgen Ragaller <ra...@null-oder-eins.ch>.
Am 12.06.2007 um 15:05 schrieb Richard Frovarp:

> Jürgen Ragaller wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Two problems with IE 6/7
>>
>>
>> 1) Currently the Lenya Backend is served with an xml Prolog. This  
>> is correct for xhtml BUT IE 6 goes crazy and switches to its  
>> quirks mode (resulting in a bigger font size - the website looks  
>> ugly). xhtml can be served without xml Prolog. So my suggestion is  
>> to use the serializer option omit-xml-declaration for lenya.
>>
> I've turned off the xml prolog in my setup to get past these problems.

So have I (using a xhtml serializer block with the omit declaration  
in my publication sitemap)

>
>> 2) The content Type of the lenya backend is application/xml. IE 6  
>> AND IE 7 don't know how to handle this correctly (see http:// 
>> blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx). I think the  
>> content Type should be text/html.
>>
>>
> What effects are you seeing as a result of this?
>

mmmh. Currently no effect (strange).
Have to read the explanation about the content type again to  
understand why it is «not supported».


Jürgen


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Re: [1.4] - Internet Explorer Problems (IE 6 and IE7)

Posted by Richard Frovarp <Ri...@sendit.nodak.edu>.
Jürgen Ragaller wrote:
> Hi
>
> Two problems with IE 6/7
>
>
> 1) Currently the Lenya Backend is served with an xml Prolog. This is 
> correct for xhtml BUT IE 6 goes crazy and switches to its quirks mode 
> (resulting in a bigger font size - the website looks ugly). xhtml can 
> be served without xml Prolog. So my suggestion is to use the 
> serializer option omit-xml-declaration for lenya.
>
I've turned off the xml prolog in my setup to get past these problems.

> 2) The content Type of the lenya backend is application/xml. IE 6 AND 
> IE 7 don't know how to handle this correctly (see 
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx). I think the 
> content Type should be text/html.
>
>
What effects are you seeing as a result of this?

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Re: [1.4] - Internet Explorer Problems (IE 6 and IE7)

Posted by Jürgen Ragaller <ra...@null-oder-eins.ch>.
Am 12.06.2007 um 12:21 schrieb Michael Wechner:

> Jürgen Ragaller wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Two problems with IE 6/7
>>
>>
>> 1) Currently the Lenya Backend is served with an xml Prolog. This  
>> is  correct for xhtml BUT IE 6 goes crazy and switches to its  
>> quirks mode  (resulting in a bigger font size - the website looks  
>> ugly). xhtml can  be served without xml Prolog. So my suggestion  
>> is to use the  serializer option omit-xml-declaration for lenya.
>
>
> +0 but add a big note about this resp. use a switch. But are you  
> sure this really because of the xml prolog and not because IE has  
> problems with application/xhml+xml?

Yes, I am - IE6 goes nuts; for IE7 they solved this problem. see  
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/prolog_problems/.
Do You mean a switch using a browser selector in a sitemap?

>
>>
>> 2) The content Type of the lenya backend is application/xml.
>
>
> don't you mean application/xhtml+xml ?

Ups, sorry - Yes I meant application/xhtml+xml

>
>> IE 6 AND  IE 7 don't know how to handle this correctly (see  
>> http:// blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx). I think  
>> the  content Type should be text/html.
>
>
> Unfortunately IE has really this problem and text/html should solve  
> this, but I think it's more generic to deliver the
> content type based on the Accept header.


I found these two articles about content negotiation:
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/articles/askw3c/sep2003/
http://juicystudio.com/article/content-negotiation.php#xhtmlmime


Thanks, Michael!

Jürgen




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Re: [1.4] - Internet Explorer Problems (IE 6 and IE7)

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Jürgen Ragaller wrote:

> Hi
>
> Two problems with IE 6/7
>
>
> 1) Currently the Lenya Backend is served with an xml Prolog. This is  
> correct for xhtml BUT IE 6 goes crazy and switches to its quirks mode  
> (resulting in a bigger font size - the website looks ugly). xhtml can  
> be served without xml Prolog. So my suggestion is to use the  
> serializer option omit-xml-declaration for lenya.


+0 but add a big note about this resp. use a switch. But are you sure 
this really because of the xml prolog and not because IE has problems 
with application/xhml+xml?

>
> 2) The content Type of the lenya backend is application/xml.


don't you mean application/xhtml+xml ?

> IE 6 AND  IE 7 don't know how to handle this correctly (see http:// 
> blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx). I think the  
> content Type should be text/html.


Unfortunately IE has really this problem and text/html should solve 
this, but I think it's more generic to deliver the
content type based on the Accept header.

Cheers

Michael

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