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[jira] Created: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
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Key: INFRA-1743
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
Project: Infrastructure
Issue Type: Bug
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Mailing Lists
Reporter: Edwin Lee
i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
i have tried using
1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
but they all got bounced back as spam.
Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
(btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Edwin Lee (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Edwin Lee commented on INFRA-1743:
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Sending as plain text mail (using the same address) indeed worked. So it was the HTML mail.
My problem is solved, so i'll leave it to you guys to decide if this constraint is reasonable (i.e. HTML mails treated as spam) and close this issue. Do let me know if you want me to help test anything.
Thanks!
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tony Stevenson commented on INFRA-1743:
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Edwin,
First what address are you trying to subscribe with? I can manually subscribe you, but we should get to the bottom of your issues first to make sure your future emails don't get dropped too.
Can you also post the message headers, from one of your bounced messages please? I need to see what is triggering the spam tagging.
Cheers,
Tony
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tony Stevenson commented on INFRA-1743:
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Edwin,
It really does depend on the body of the message, if using HTML, and what crap folks like Yahoo insert into it. Things like the links to Yahoo mail, and messenger. Not forgetting the infamous Yahoo exclamation mark (point) all these are added up and SpamAssassin uses a points based system to decided whether the mail has exceeded a set threshold, before binning it as spam.
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Edwin Lee (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Edwin Lee commented on INFRA-1743:
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Thanks, i did made sure that the mails have a subject and body (in fact, my mail to dev-owner@mina.apache.org and infrastructure@apache.org were actual real emails).
But i use web mail (Yahoo), so that must be a possibility. i'll try again in plain text.
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Edwin Lee (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Edwin Lee commented on INFRA-1743:
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To add on, i'm unable to subscribe to java-user@lucene.apache.org as well, for the same reason.
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Closed: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Tony Stevenson (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Tony Stevenson closed INFRA-1743.
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Resolution: Invalid
Assignee: Tony Stevenson
Nothing to fix. HTML mail from yahoo, triggered SA.
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
> Assignee: Tony Stevenson
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Upayavira (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Upayavira commented on INFRA-1743:
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Try adding a subject and a body that would be reasonable as an email. Make sure you don't use HTML email. All that is required is the email address. That way you may be able to persuade the ASF mail servers that your mail is not spam.
Regards, Upayavira
> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1743) Unable to subscribe to
dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
Posted by "Edwin Lee (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Edwin Lee commented on INFRA-1743:
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Sure, i agree that we should try to get to the bottom of this...
Message header as follows:
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Subject: failure notice
Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.
<ja...@lucene.apache.org>:
Remote host said: 552 spam score (5.3) exceeded threshold [BODY]
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Subject: Re: confirm subscribe to java-user@lucene.apache.org
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> Unable to subscribe to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1743
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1743
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Edwin Lee
>
> i'm trying to join the dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org mailing lists, but my necessary mails to activate the subscription have all been marked as spam.
> i have tried using
> 1. The special reply address for the subscription confirmation email.
> 2. dev-request@mina.apache.org
> 3. sending a mail for help to dev-owner@mina.apache.org
> 4. sending a mail for help to infrastructure@apache.org
> but they all got bounced back as spam.
> Would you be able to help me activate my subscription to these two mailing lists, please?
> (btw, if the same spam filter is used, i forsee i'll have the same problems sending to dev@mina.apache.org and users@mina.apache.org in future.)
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