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Diagram Drafts

I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website navigation:

Tuscany Block Diagram-
http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png

SCA Diagram-
http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png

Let me know what you guys think.

-David Wheeler

Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by cr22rc <cr...@gmail.com>.
By the way is this the general idea what people had in mind what this 
overview image ought to do? 
Rick wrote:
> David,
> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with another 
> image that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes 
> you to one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch 
> out.
>
> David Wheeler wrote:
>> I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website navigation:
>>
>> Tuscany Block Diagram-
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png 
>>
>>
>> SCA Diagram-
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png 
>>
>>
>> Let me know what you guys think.
>>
>> -David Wheeler
>>
>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by cr22rc <cr...@gmail.com>.
No problemo,  looks good.
Simon Laws wrote:
> Hi Rick
>
> I tried to put together all the diagrams I had seen and spin up a 
> version of
> the new site layout. Unfortunately my mail describing this took 7 
> hours to
> either get out of our local systems or be reflected by the Apache mail 
> list.
> So apologies if we have overlapped. The work is attached to this JIRA (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-568). I think Pete was
> applying it.
>
> Regards
>
> Simon
>
> On 7/20/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Trying to get some of this stuff together. I'm moving in the DAS stuff
>> from Luciano but that seemed very limited and a lot missing. It also has
>> references to microsoft mso objects that need to go.
>> I put in Venkata diagram that is clickable to the technologies.  I'll
>> try to replace that with David's work.  Is this at a state where we are
>> relatively happy with this? I rather not do the image map a zillion
>> times if you get my drift.
>> kelvin goodson wrote:
>> > I've added some embrionic SDO stuff as a patch in Tuscany 568. Would
>> some
>> > kind committer like to put it up for me please?
>> >
>> > Are we all still aiming to get this replacement live before OSCon?
>> >
>> > If so I'll put some more focus into bringing across the fundamental
>> > bulk of
>> > SDO  material from the existing site,  and making things prettier, but
>> > I'm
>> > reluctant to spend all my time between now and travelling to OSCon on
>> > this
>> > if the likelihood is that we won't switch over in the near term.
>> >
>> > On 7/19/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the 
>> main
>> >> page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to
>> >> a DAS
>> >> "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is
>> >> listed on
>> >> the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect
>> the
>> >> user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page
>> >> is not
>> >> a text only one :)
>> >>
>> >> I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS 
>> overview.zip
>> "
>> >>
>> >> I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool 
>> David is
>> >> using, as it looks like MAC only...
>> >>
>> >> And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS
>> Overview
>> >> as well...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> - Luciano
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Cool - thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > oh, ok.
>> >> > > Lets try this agian zipped.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -David Wheeler
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found
>> out
>> >> > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
>> >> > > goes through.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jim
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Sure thing Jim.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Should be attached
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi
>> David,
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Jim
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
>> >> > > attached
>> >> > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
>> >> > > visio.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core
>> >> Runtime
>> >> > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
>> >> > > extensions.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the
>> >> source
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
>> >> > > > > attachment?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
>> >> > > > > > Ah,
>> >> > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so
>> far
>> >> > > > > were for
>> >> > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be
>> >> replaced.
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr22rc@gmail.com > wrote:
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> David,
>> >> > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
>> >> > > > > another image
>> >> > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it
>> >> takes
>> >> > > > > you to
>> >> > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily
>> >> switch
>> >> >
>> >> > > > > out.
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
>> >> > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw
>> >> website
>> >> > > > > >> navigation:
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
>> >> > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
>> >> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
>> >>
>> >> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
>> >> > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
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>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
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>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > <Tuscany-Block.zip>
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
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>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >> Luciano Resende
>> >> SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany
>> >> -----------------------------------------------------
>> >>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Rick

I tried to put together all the diagrams I had seen and spin up a version of
the new site layout. Unfortunately my mail describing this took 7 hours to
either get out of our local systems or be reflected by the Apache mail list.
So apologies if we have overlapped. The work is attached to this JIRA (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-568). I think Pete was
applying it.

Regards

Simon

On 7/20/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Trying to get some of this stuff together. I'm moving in the DAS stuff
> from Luciano but that seemed very limited and a lot missing. It also has
> references to microsoft mso objects that need to go.
> I put in Venkata diagram that is clickable to the technologies.  I'll
> try to replace that with David's work.  Is this at a state where we are
> relatively happy with this? I rather not do the image map a zillion
> times if you get my drift.
> kelvin goodson wrote:
> > I've added some embrionic SDO stuff as a patch in Tuscany 568. Would
> some
> > kind committer like to put it up for me please?
> >
> > Are we all still aiming to get this replacement live before OSCon?
> >
> > If so I'll put some more focus into bringing across the fundamental
> > bulk of
> > SDO  material from the existing site,  and making things prettier, but
> > I'm
> > reluctant to spend all my time between now and travelling to OSCon on
> > this
> > if the likelihood is that we won't switch over in the near term.
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
> >> page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to
> >> a DAS
> >> "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is
> >> listed on
> >> the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect
> the
> >> user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page
> >> is not
> >> a text only one :)
> >>
> >> I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip
> "
> >>
> >> I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
> >> using, as it looks like MAC only...
> >>
> >> And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS
> Overview
> >> as well...
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> - Luciano
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Cool - thanks!
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > oh, ok.
> >> > > Lets try this agian zipped.
> >> > >
> >> > > -David Wheeler
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found
> out
> >> > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> >> > > goes through.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jim
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Sure thing Jim.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Should be attached
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi
> David,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jim
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> >> > > attached
> >> > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> >> > > visio.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core
> >> Runtime
> >> > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> >> > > extensions.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the
> >> source
> >> >
> >> > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> >> > > > > attachment?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > > > > > Ah,
> >> > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so
> far
> >> > > > > were for
> >> > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be
> >> replaced.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr22rc@gmail.com > wrote:
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> David,
> >> > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> >> > > > > another image
> >> > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it
> >> takes
> >> > > > > you to
> >> > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily
> >> switch
> >> >
> >> > > > > out.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw
> >> website
> >> > > > > >> navigation:
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> >> > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> >> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >>
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> >>
> >> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >
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> >> > > > >
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> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > <Tuscany-Block.zip>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> -----------------------------------------------------
> >> Luciano Resende
> >> SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany
> >> -----------------------------------------------------
> >>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
Venkata, I agree with your comments. David's diagrams are a good view of a
single runtime. We can use that view to describe what is happening in Java
and C++ code bases. I'm not convinced that tweakes to this diagram format
are easily going to be able to convey SCA motivation and values. SCA seems
to do two things implicitly.

1) describe the composition of finer grained components into coarser grained
components/services
2) describe an IT system in terms of the components/services from which it
is built.

SCA may do both of these things well but I don't think we are very good at
describing this. Some people come to us wanting to know how to build
services. Some people want to know how to build systems from services. So
the diagram we need is more like one of the context diagrams from the spec
that shows a system being built out of components and other non-SCA services
and, in turn, some of those components being composed from lower level
components.  The real value is then that you can do all of this with the
flexibility provided by the various containers and bindings, and in the
future policies etc.

Regards

Simon

On 7/20/06, Venkata Krishnan <fo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David, this looks a really very nice arial view :-)
>
> I agree that the DAS, SDO and Tools blocks should not overlay the core and
> hosting platform blocks.
>
> Now, if you look the diagram, it gives an impression of one huge
> middleware
> that encapsulates all sorts of containers.  The aspect of being able to
> 'integrate' distributed systems is not so evident.  We need to probably
> think about positioning the 'extensions' differently to bring this point
> out.  The intention is, when a person sees the picture he must get an idea
> of where he is going to be able to use this.  Makes sense?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Venkat
>
> On 7/20/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
> > page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to a
> DAS
> > "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is
> listed on
> > the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect the
> > user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page is
> not
> > a text only one :)
> >
> > I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip"
> >
> > I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
> > using, as it looks like MAC only...
> >
> > And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS Overview
> > as well...
> >
> > Thanks
> > - Luciano
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cool - thanks!
> > >
> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > oh, ok.
> > > > Lets try this agian zipped.
> > > >
> > > > -David Wheeler
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out
> > > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> > > > goes through.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sure thing Jim.
> > > > >
> > > > > Should be attached
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> > > > attached
> > > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> > > > visio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core
> Runtime
> > > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> > > > extensions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the
> source
> > > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > > > > attachment?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > > > Ah,
> > > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > > > > were for
> > > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be
> replaced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> David,
> > > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > > > > another image
> > > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it
> takes
> > > > > > you to
> > > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily
> switch
> > >
> > > > > > out.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw
> website
> > > > > > >> navigation:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Pete Robbins <ro...@googlemail.com>.
I tried... I really did! I'm having problems applying the patch to
site-publish. SVN complaining about incosistent newlines.

Cheers,


On 20/07/06, kelvin goodson <ke...@thegoodsons.org.uk> wrote:
>
> I've added some embrionic SDO stuff as a patch in Tuscany 568. Would some
> kind committer like to put it up for me please?
>
> Are we all still aiming to get this replacement live before OSCon?
>
> If so I'll put some more focus into bringing across the fundamental bulk
> of
> SDO  material from the existing site,  and making things prettier, but I'm
> reluctant to spend all my time between now and travelling to OSCon on this
> if the likelihood is that we won't switch over in the near term.
>
> On 7/19/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
> > page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to a
> DAS
> > "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is
> listed on
> > the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect the
> > user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page is
> not
> > a text only one :)
> >
> > I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip"
> >
> > I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
> > using, as it looks like MAC only...
> >
> > And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS Overview
> > as well...
> >
> > Thanks
> > - Luciano
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cool - thanks!
> > >
> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > oh, ok.
> > > > Lets try this agian zipped.
> > > >
> > > > -David Wheeler
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out
> > > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> > > > goes through.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sure thing Jim.
> > > > >
> > > > > Should be attached
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> > > > attached
> > > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> > > > visio.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core
> Runtime
> > > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> > > > extensions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the
> source
> > >
> > > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > > > > attachment?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > > > Ah,
> > > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > > > > were for
> > > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be
> replaced.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr22rc@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> David,
> > > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > > > > another image
> > > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it
> takes
> > > > > > you to
> > > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily
> switch
> > >
> > > > > > out.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw
> website
> > > > > > >> navigation:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> >
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Luciano Resende
> > SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Kelvin Goodson
>
>


-- 
Pete

Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rick

   Thanks for helping, I'm working on the class diagrams and will be sending
some more " clean"  update by sometime tomorrow.... and that would be more
situable for representing DAS. The only think I still wanted some help was
to get the little DAS diagram available on my draft in the same model as the
other diagrams.

- Luciano


On 7/20/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Trying to get some of this stuff together. I'm moving in the DAS stuff
> from Luciano but that seemed very limited and a lot missing. It also has
> references to microsoft mso objects that need to go.
> I put in Venkata diagram that is clickable to the technologies.  I'll
> try to replace that with David's work.  Is this at a state where we are
> relatively happy with this? I rather not do the image map a zillion
> times if you get my drift.
> kelvin goodson wrote:
> > I've added some embrionic SDO stuff as a patch in Tuscany 568. Would
> some
> > kind committer like to put it up for me please?
> >
> > Are we all still aiming to get this replacement live before OSCon?
> >
> > If so I'll put some more focus into bringing across the fundamental
> > bulk of
> > SDO  material from the existing site,  and making things prettier, but
> > I'm
> > reluctant to spend all my time between now and travelling to OSCon on
> > this
> > if the likelihood is that we won't switch over in the near term.
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
> >> page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to
> >> a DAS
> >> "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is
> >> listed on
> >> the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect
> the
> >> user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page
> >> is not
> >> a text only one :)
> >>
> >> I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip
> "
> >>
> >> I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
> >> using, as it looks like MAC only...
> >>
> >> And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS
> Overview
> >> as well...
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> - Luciano
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Cool - thanks!
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > oh, ok.
> >> > > Lets try this agian zipped.
> >> > >
> >> > > -David Wheeler
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found
> out
> >> > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> >> > > goes through.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jim
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Sure thing Jim.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Should be attached
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi
> David,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Jim
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> >> > > attached
> >> > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> >> > > visio.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core
> >> Runtime
> >> > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> >> > > extensions.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the
> >> source
> >> >
> >> > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> >> > > > > attachment?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > > > > > Ah,
> >> > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so
> far
> >> > > > > were for
> >> > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be
> >> replaced.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr22rc@gmail.com > wrote:
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> David,
> >> > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> >> > > > > another image
> >> > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it
> >> takes
> >> > > > > you to
> >> > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily
> >> switch
> >> >
> >> > > > > out.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw
> >> website
> >> > > > > >> navigation:
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> >> > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> >> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >>
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> >>
> >> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > >
> >> > >
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> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > <Tuscany-Block.zip>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > <Tuscany-BlockPDF.zip>
> >> > >
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> -----------------------------------------------------
> >> Luciano Resende
> >> SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany
> >> -----------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: tuscany-dev-unsubscribe@ws.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: tuscany-dev-help@ws.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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-----------------------------------------------------
Luciano Resende
SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany
-----------------------------------------------------

Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Rick <cr...@gmail.com>.
Trying to get some of this stuff together. I'm moving in the DAS stuff 
from Luciano but that seemed very limited and a lot missing. It also has 
references to microsoft mso objects that need to go.
I put in Venkata diagram that is clickable to the technologies.  I'll 
try to replace that with David's work.  Is this at a state where we are 
relatively happy with this? I rather not do the image map a zillion 
times if you get my drift.
kelvin goodson wrote:
> I've added some embrionic SDO stuff as a patch in Tuscany 568. Would some
> kind committer like to put it up for me please?
>
> Are we all still aiming to get this replacement live before OSCon?
>
> If so I'll put some more focus into bringing across the fundamental 
> bulk of
> SDO  material from the existing site,  and making things prettier, but 
> I'm
> reluctant to spend all my time between now and travelling to OSCon on 
> this
> if the likelihood is that we won't switch over in the near term.
>
> On 7/19/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
>> page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to 
>> a DAS
>> "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is 
>> listed on
>> the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect the
>> user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page 
>> is not
>> a text only one :)
>>
>> I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip"
>>
>> I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
>> using, as it looks like MAC only...
>>
>> And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS Overview
>> as well...
>>
>> Thanks
>> - Luciano
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cool - thanks!
>> >
>> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>> >
>> > > oh, ok.
>> > > Lets try this agian zipped.
>> > >
>> > > -David Wheeler
>> > >
>> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out
>> > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
>> > > goes through.
>> > >
>> > > Jim
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Sure thing Jim.
>> > > >
>> > > > Should be attached
>> > > >
>> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
>> > > >
>> > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
>> > > >
>> > > > Jim
>> > > >
>> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
>> > > attached
>> > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
>> > > visio.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core 
>> Runtime
>> > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
>> > > extensions.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the 
>> source
>> >
>> > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
>> > > > > attachment?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
>> > > > > > Ah,
>> > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
>> > > > > were for
>> > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be 
>> replaced.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr22rc@gmail.com > wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> David,
>> > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
>> > > > > another image
>> > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it 
>> takes
>> > > > > you to
>> > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily 
>> switch
>> >
>> > > > > out.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
>> > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw 
>> website
>> > > > > >> navigation:
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
>> > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
>> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> 
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29> 
>>
>> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
>> > > > > >> >
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > 
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>> > > >
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by kelvin goodson <ke...@thegoodsons.org.uk>.
I've added some embrionic SDO stuff as a patch in Tuscany 568. Would some
kind committer like to put it up for me please?

Are we all still aiming to get this replacement live before OSCon?

If so I'll put some more focus into bringing across the fundamental bulk of
SDO  material from the existing site,  and making things prettier, but I'm
reluctant to spend all my time between now and travelling to OSCon on this
if the likelihood is that we won't switch over in the near term.

On 7/19/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
> page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to a DAS
> "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is listed on
> the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect the
> user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page is not
> a text only one :)
>
> I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip"
>
> I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
> using, as it looks like MAC only...
>
> And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS Overview
> as well...
>
> Thanks
> - Luciano
>
>
> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cool - thanks!
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > oh, ok.
> > > Lets try this agian zipped.
> > >
> > > -David Wheeler
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out
> > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> > > goes through.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure thing Jim.
> > > >
> > > > Should be attached
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> > > attached
> > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> > > visio.
> > > > >
> > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> > > extensions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> >
> > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > > > attachment?
> > > > >
> > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > > Ah,
> > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > > > were for
> > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr22rc@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> David,
> > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > > > another image
> > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > > > > you to
> > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> >
> > > > > out.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > > > > >> navigation:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
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> SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Venkata Krishnan <fo...@gmail.com>.
David, this looks a really very nice arial view :-)

I agree that the DAS, SDO and Tools blocks should not overlay the core and
hosting platform blocks.

Now, if you look the diagram, it gives an impression of one huge middleware
that encapsulates all sorts of containers.  The aspect of being able to
'integrate' distributed systems is not so evident.  We need to probably
think about positioning the 'extensions' differently to bring this point
out.  The intention is, when a person sees the picture he must get an idea
of where he is going to be able to use this.  Makes sense?

Thanks.

- Venkat

On 7/20/06, Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
> page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to a DAS
> "overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is listed on
> the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect the
> user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page is not
> a text only one :)
>
> I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS overview.zip"
>
> I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
> using, as it looks like MAC only...
>
> And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS Overview
> as well...
>
> Thanks
> - Luciano
>
>
> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cool - thanks!
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > oh, ok.
> > > Lets try this agian zipped.
> > >
> > > -David Wheeler
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out
> > > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> > > goes through.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure thing Jim.
> > > >
> > > > Should be attached
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> > > attached
> > > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> > > visio.
> > > > >
> > > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> > > extensions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> > > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > > > attachment?
> > > > >
> > > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > > Ah,
> > > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > > > were for
> > > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> David,
> > > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > > > another image
> > > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > > > > you to
> > > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> >
> > > > > out.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > > > > >> navigation:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > <http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)<http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany%282f%29>
> > > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Luciano Resende <lu...@gmail.com>.
So, If i'm guessing right, the idea is to have this diagram on the main
page, and once a user clicks on a link, let's say DAS, it would go to a DAS
"overview" page ? So we could probably make each component that is listed on
the tuscany web site outline to have an "overview" page and redirect the
user to that page when a component is clicked...As long as that page is not
a text only one :)

I have a proposal for the DAS content on the attached "DAS
overview.zip"<file:///D:/DEV/Projects/Tuscany/temp/DAS%20Overview.zip>

I'd need some help on updating the diagram using the same tool David is
using, as it looks like MAC only...

And I'll build the object diagram for DAS to be part of the DAS Overview as
well...

Thanks
- Luciano

On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
>
> Cool - thanks!
>
> On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>
> > oh, ok.
> > Lets try this agian zipped.
> >
> > -David Wheeler
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out
> > yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> > goes through.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > Sure thing Jim.
> > >
> > > Should be attached
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> > >
> > > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> > >
> > > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have
> > attached
> > > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and
> > visio.
> > > >
> > > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of
> > extensions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> > > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > > attachment?
> > > >
> > > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > > Ah,
> > > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > > were for
> > > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> David,
> > > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > > another image
> > > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > > > you to
> > > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> > > > out.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > > > >> navigation:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>.
Cool - thanks!

On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:35 PM, David Wheeler wrote:

> oh, ok.
> Lets try this agian zipped.
>
> -David Wheeler
>
> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jmarino@myromatours.com > wrote:I found out  
> yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> goes through.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>
> > Sure thing Jim.
> >
> > Should be attached
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino < jmarino@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> >
> > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have  
> attached
> > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and  
> visio.
> > >
> > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of  
> extensions.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > attachment?
> > >
> > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > Ah,
> > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > were for
> > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> David,
> > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > another image
> > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > > you to
> > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> > > out.
> > > >>
> > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > > >> navigation:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > >> >
> > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > >> >
> > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by David Wheeler <wh...@gmail.com>.
oh, ok.
Lets try this agian zipped.

-David Wheeler

On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
>
> I found out yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it
> goes through.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
>
> > Sure thing Jim.
> >
> > Should be attached
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
> >
> > Is there any chance you can pdf it?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have attached
> > > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and visio.
> > >
> > > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of extensions.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> > > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > > attachment?
> > >
> > > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > > Ah,
> > > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > > were for
> > > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> David,
> > > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > > another image
> > > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > > you to
> > > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> > > out.
> > > >>
> > > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > > >> navigation:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > > >> >
> > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > > >> >
> > > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -David Wheeler
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>.
I found out yesterday the list strips PDFs but if you zip them it  
goes through.

Jim


On Jul 19, 2006, at 12:22 PM, David Wheeler wrote:

> Sure thing Jim.
>
> Should be attached
>
> On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote: Hi David,
>
> Is there any chance you can pdf it?
>
> Jim
>
> On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
>
> > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have attached
> > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and visio.
> >
> > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of extensions.
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > attachment?
> >
> > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > Ah,
> > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > were for
> > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> David,
> > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > another image
> > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > you to
> > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> > out.
> > >>
> > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > >> navigation:
> > >> >
> > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > >> >
> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > >> >
> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > >> >
> > >> > -David Wheeler
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by David Wheeler <wh...@gmail.com>.
Sure thing Jim.

Should be attached

On 7/19/06, Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Is there any chance you can pdf it?
>
> Jim
>
> On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:
>
> > The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have attached
> > a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and visio.
> >
> > I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime
> > and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of extensions.
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source
> > format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> > attachment?
> >
> > David Wheeler wrote:
> > > Ah,
> > > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far
> > were for
> > > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> > >
> > > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> David,
> > >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with
> > another image
> > >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes
> > you to
> > >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch
> > out.
> > >>
> > >> David Wheeler wrote:
> > >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> > >> navigation:
> > >> >
> > >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> > >> >
> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > SCA Diagram-
> > >> >
> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)
> > ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> > >> >
> > >> > -David Wheeler
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>.
Hi David,

Is there any chance you can pdf it?

Jim

On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, David Wheeler wrote:

> The original format is an Omnigraffle document, but I have attached  
> a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and visio.
>
> I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime  
> and SDO / Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of extensions.
>
>
> On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote: Also what is the source  
> format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> attachment?
>
> David Wheeler wrote:
> > Ah,
> > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far  
> were for
> > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> David,
> >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with  
> another image
> >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes  
> you to
> >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch  
> out.
> >>
> >> David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> >> navigation:
> >> >
> >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> >> >
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f) 
> ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > SCA Diagram-
> >> >
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f) 
> ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> >> >
> >> > -David Wheeler
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>  
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by David Wheeler <wh...@gmail.com>.
The original format is an Omnigraffle
<http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/>document, but I have
attached a zip that contains the graffle as well as copies in svg and visio.


I modefied it to better reflect the seperation of the Core Runtime and SDO /
Tools, as well as adding Spring to the list of extensions.


On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also what is the source format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email
> attachment?
>
> David Wheeler wrote:
> > Ah,
> > I was under the impression that the other images posted so far were for
> > brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> David,
> >> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with another image
> >> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes you to
> >> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch out.
> >>
> >> David Wheeler wrote:
> >> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website
> >> navigation:
> >> >
> >> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> >> >
> >>
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > SCA Diagram-
> >> >
> >>
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Let me know what you guys think.
> >> >
> >> > -David Wheeler
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Rick <cr...@gmail.com>.
Also what is the source format... anyway you can upload it ?  send email 
attachment?

David Wheeler wrote:
> Ah,
> I was under the impression that the other images posted so far were for
> brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
>
> On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with another image
>> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes you to
>> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch out.
>>
>> David Wheeler wrote:
>> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website 
>> navigation:
>> >
>> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
>> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png 
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > SCA Diagram-
>> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png 
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Let me know what you guys think.
>> >
>> > -David Wheeler
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Jim Marino <jm...@myromatours.com>.
These look nice. A couple of comments:

1. For extensions, can we include Spring as that has a lot of  
widespread appeal and is something we are actively working on?
2. Is there a way to make the ancillary technologies such as DAS, SDO  
and Tooling fit outside the core runtime, as they are not embedded?  
Perhaps having something that shows them being plugged in, maybe as  
extensions?

Jim

On Jul 19, 2006, at 11:05 AM, David Wheeler wrote:

> Ah,
> I was under the impression that the other images posted so far were  
> for
> brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.
>
> On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with another  
>> image
>> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes you to
>> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch out.
>>
>> David Wheeler wrote:
>> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website  
>> navigation:
>> >
>> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
>> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f) 
>> ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
>> >
>> >
>> > SCA Diagram-
>> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f) 
>> ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
>> >
>> >
>> > Let me know what you guys think.
>> >
>> > -David Wheeler
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by David Wheeler <wh...@gmail.com>.
Ah,
I was under the impression that the other images posted so far were for
brain storming more than final drafts, Intented to be replaced.

On 7/19/06, Rick <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David,
> I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with another image
> that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes you to
> one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch out.
>
> David Wheeler wrote:
> > I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website navigation:
> >
> > Tuscany Block Diagram-
> >
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png
> >
> >
> > SCA Diagram-
> >
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png
> >
> >
> > Let me know what you guys think.
> >
> > -David Wheeler
> >
>
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Re: Diagram Drafts

Posted by Rick <cr...@gmail.com>.
David,
I just checked in an overview that made it clickable with another image 
that was already posted.  When you click on a section it takes you to 
one of the  links on top.  I'm not partial, I can easily switch out.

David Wheeler wrote:
> I've come up with a couple possible diagrams for thw website navigation:
>
> Tuscany Block Diagram-
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tuscany-Block.png 
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>
> SCA Diagram-
> http://wiki.apache.org/ws-data/attachments/Tuscany(2f)ClickableImages/attachments/Tusc-SCA-Diagram.png 
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> Let me know what you guys think.
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> -David Wheeler
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