FW: [cs.uu.nl #4642] [Fwd: watch out with mirror http://apache.cs.uu.nl/]

[Ard Schrijvers <a....@hippo.nl>]

About the broken mirror http://apache.cs.uu.nl/, I was premature: The flaw seems to be way more serious, and seems to be apache-dist/jakarta/.htaccess in general! 

> Ard,
> 
> you are spreading disinformation.
> 
> In dist/jakarta there is a .htaccess file that does the redirects.
> You can check this by retrievig the file from the source site.
> 
>   rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist/jakarta/.htaccess .
> 
> -- the mirror on cs.uu.nl is up-to-date, and
> -- it is doing what it is supposed to do

It is not. In my former mail, I do not state that the problem is at http://apache.cs.uu.nl/. It is not doing what it is supposed to, but the problem originates somewhere else, so the problem is *not* at http://apache.cs.uu.nl/. 

> -- you could and should have checked this before you posted
> 
> -- stop spreading disinformation about apache.cs.uu.nl
> -- retract your false information on the 'dev@cocoon.apache.org' list
> -- file a bug report with jakarta people, if you think something is
>    wrong.

Yes I do think there is something terribly wrong! Maven should garantuee correct jars. If due to some configuration error, wrong jars end up in my project, then something is wrong. So I do not understand apache member Henk Penning to shoot the messenger, instead of seeing the severity of the issue, and try helping to get it out of the world. 

So, anyhow, who knows how I can address the correct person to file this problem that it gets resolved.

Regards Ard

> 
> regards,
> 
> Henk Penning
> 

Re: FW: [cs.uu.nl #4642] [Fwd: watch out with mirror http://apache.cs.uu.nl/]

[Sandor Spruit <sa...@cs.uu.nl>]

Ard Schrijvers wrote:
> About the broken mirror http://apache.cs.uu.nl/, I was premature: The
> flaw seems to be way more serious, and seems to be
> apache-dist/jakarta/.htaccess in general!

[snip]

> Yes I do think there is something terribly wrong! Maven should
> garantuee correct jars. If due to some configuration error, wrong
> jars end up in my project, then something is wrong. So I do not
> understand apache member Henk Penning to shoot the messenger, instead
> of seeing the severity of the issue, and try helping to get it out of
> the world.
> 
> So, anyhow, who knows how I can address the correct person to file
> this problem that it gets resolved.

Henk does not shoot the messenger. He always send mails with short, 
factual info. No bull.

And, in defense, our building needs to be empty by tomorrow afternoon. 
Renovation, reconstruction, network upgrade etc. It's a mess over here 
right now! I was surprised he found the time to respond, and so soon!!

I'm sure you'd understand he's not in the mood to address Apache issues 
on remote sites, if you could look only into our offices right now :)

cheers,
Sandor

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Re: FW: [cs.uu.nl #4642] [Fwd: watch out with mirror http://apache.cs.uu.nl/]

[Sandor Spruit <sa...@cs.uu.nl>]

Ard Schrijvers wrote:
> About the broken mirror http://apache.cs.uu.nl/, I was premature: The
> flaw seems to be way more serious, and seems to be
> apache-dist/jakarta/.htaccess in general!

[snip]

> Yes I do think there is something terribly wrong! Maven should
> garantuee correct jars. If due to some configuration error, wrong
> jars end up in my project, then something is wrong. So I do not
> understand apache member Henk Penning to shoot the messenger, instead
> of seeing the severity of the issue, and try helping to get it out of
> the world.
> 
> So, anyhow, who knows how I can address the correct person to file
> this problem that it gets resolved.

Henk does not shoot the messenger. He always send mails with short, 
factual info. No bull.

And, in defense, our building needs to be empty by tomorrow afternoon. 
Renovation, reconstruction, network upgrade etc. It's a mess over here 
right now! I was surprised he found the time to respond, and so soon!!

I'm sure you'd understand he's not in the mood to address Apache issues 
on remote sites, if you could look only into our offices right now :)

cheers,
Sandor

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Information and Computing Sciences, Utrecht University, the Netherlands
'Content and knowledge engineering' http://www.informationscience.nl/
Personal coordinates: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/sandor/
"... unthinkable surprises, about to happen, but what they are -
  it's not up to you, oh, it never really was."  (Bjork on Vespertine)

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