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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Following the sports analogy, what about
"Groovy MVPs"
?
Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a
nice ring to it.
Cheers,
mg
On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
> I disagree with MG.
>
> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both
> professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the
> Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have
> star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can
> find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid
> point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's
> what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>
> My few cents worth.
>
> /Søren
>
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>
> "Get a life" ;-)
>
> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
> whether that name really sends the right professional message with
> regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project
> are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they
> do not normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming
> along the Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy
> All Stars")
>
> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
> Switch might become a reality:
> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
>> <realbluesun@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java
>> Champions"
>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me
>> associate "Song
>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would
>> not associate
>> as I do...
>>
>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name
>> current "Grape"
>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>
>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel.Sun
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from:
>> http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by mg <mg...@arscreat.com>.
GrooVIP I like, it's in the tradition of GString... :-)
"The Apache Groovy project announced its 2018 GrooVIPs" works for me.
mg
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> Datum: 20.02.18 11:07 (GMT+01:00) An: users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Or even GrooVIP :-D
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) Anoter option: VIP ;)
2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <je...@gmail.com>:
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas
Saidis <sa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
My own
few cents, too:
Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their
pros and cons. I would suggest something along the lines
of Groovy Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or
Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New
acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall
community and not only the language per se.
Kostas
On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
I have never heard "MVP" =
"Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would pose
a problem. Also do you suggest that people would
actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum
Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according
to https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
On
19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
For me, MVP sounds too much like
Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at
8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com>
wrote:
Following the sports analogy, what about
"Groovy MVPs"
?
Any game can have Most Valuable Players
(even if only one is typically crowned in
the US), and I think "Groovy announced its
2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
Cheers,
mg
On
19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius
wrote:
I disagree with MG.
A star is an object that shines,
and in this case shines light on the
Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence
I think the name is both
professional, and since it can be
directly linked to the star in the
Groovy logo I think it makes perfect
sense. In sports you also have star
players and in music (and Java) you
have rock stars. That you can find
examples that relates to games on
Nintendo does not make a valid point
IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it
so much better - as that's what
Paul, Jochen and others are .
My few cents worth.
/Søren
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018
at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com>
wrote:
On
18.02.2018 13:38, Eric
Kinsella wrote:
+1up on
Groovy Stars.
"Get a life" ;-)
But seriously, all the people
one-upping "Groovy Stars" -
consider whether that name
really sends the right
professional message with
regards to Groovy ? I am
convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide
whether Groovy can be used in
a project are typically
conservative and sensitive to
those things, and they do not
normally follow nerd humor...
(next suggestion I see coming
along the Stars-crossed-line,
is to call Paul and Jochen
"Groovy All Stars")
As another example, it looks
like "Pokemon Stars" on the
Nintendo Switch might become a
reality:
http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
On
Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at
6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi
Paul,
“Groovy
Champions” make people
associate it with
"Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy
Stars", it is
interesting but let me
associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu
Stars" easily... I
wish other people
would not associate
as I do...
Similarly, many
years ago some one
suggested to name
current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the
latter is interesting
but not formal...
To sum up, +1 to
“Groovy Champions”.
Cheers,
Daniel.Sun
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hilsen,
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Ry, Denmark
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Paolo Di Tommaso <pa...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius <so...@glasius.dk>
wrote:
> Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to
> use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging
> however :D
>
Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by mg <mg...@arscreat.com>.
Groovy (Red) Giants
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: Rahul Somasunderam <rs...@transcendinsights.com> Datum: 20.02.18 18:43 (GMT+01:00) An: users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Person with Groove ?
On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon <ky...@gmail.com> wrote:
Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance?
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius
<so...@glasius.dk> wrote:
Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Or even GrooVIP :-D
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau
<ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) Anoter option: VIP ;)
2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater
<je...@gmail.com>:
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis
<sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
My own few cents, too:
Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New acronym, professional enough, focusing
on the overall community and not only the language per se.
Kostas
On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG
<mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
Following the sports analogy, what about
"Groovy MVPs"
?
Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
Cheers,
mg
On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
I disagree with MG.
A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense.
In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others
are .
My few cents worth.
/Søren
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
+1up on Groovy Stars.
"Get a life" ;-)
But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen
"Groovy All Stars")
As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
<re...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
“Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate
as I do...
Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
Cheers,
Daniel.Sun
--
Sent from:
http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
--
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius
Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile:
+45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
--- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
--
Guillaume Laforge
Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
Social:
@glaforge /
Google+
--
web: http://nerderg.com
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Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
Social:
@glaforge /
Google+
--
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius
Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by mg <mg...@arscreat.com>.
Syvoorg / SyvoorgsGroosGrooviansGroovers
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: Rahul Somasunderam <rs...@transcendinsights.com> Datum: 20.02.18 18:43 (GMT+01:00) An: users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Person with Groove ?
On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon <ky...@gmail.com> wrote:
Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance?
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius
<so...@glasius.dk> wrote:
Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Or even GrooVIP :-D
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau
<ce...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) Anoter option: VIP ;)
2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater
<je...@gmail.com>:
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis
<sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
My own few cents, too:
Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New acronym, professional enough, focusing
on the overall community and not only the language per se.
Kostas
On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG
<mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
Following the sports analogy, what about
"Groovy MVPs"
?
Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
Cheers,
mg
On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
I disagree with MG.
A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense.
In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others
are .
My few cents worth.
/Søren
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
+1up on Groovy Stars.
"Get a life" ;-)
But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen
"Groovy All Stars")
As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
<re...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paul,
“Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate
as I do...
Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
Cheers,
Daniel.Sun
--
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--
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius
Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile:
+45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
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Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
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@glaforge /
Google+
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Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
Social:
@glaforge /
Google+
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Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
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Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Rahul Somasunderam <rs...@transcendinsights.com>.
Person with Groove ?
On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon <ky...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance?
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius <so...@glasius.dk>> wrote:
Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Or even GrooVIP :-D
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <ce...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) Anoter option: VIP ;)
2018-02-20<tel:20%2018%2002%2020> 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <je...@gmail.com>>:
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net>> wrote:
You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My own few cents, too:
Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not only the language per se.
Kostas
On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
Following the sports analogy, what about
"Groovy MVPs"
?
Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
Cheers,
mg
On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
I disagree with MG.
A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
My few cents worth.
/Søren
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
+1up on Groovy Stars.
"Get a life" ;-)
But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Paul,
“Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate
as I do...
Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
Cheers,
Daniel.Sun
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Kyle Boon <ky...@gmail.com>.
Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance?
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius <so...@glasius.dk>
wrote:
> Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to
> use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging
> however :D
>
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Or even GrooVIP :-D
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <
>> cedric.champeau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head
>>> :) Anoter option: VIP ;)
>>>
>>> 2018-02-20 <20%2018%2002%2020> 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <
>>> jenn.strater@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name,
>>>> everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>>>>
>>>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My own few cents, too:
>>>>>
>>>>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons.
>>>>> I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
>>>>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
>>>>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
>>>>> only the language per se.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kostas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
>>>>> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
>>>>> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>>>>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>>>>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
>>>>>> typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs"
>>>>>> has a nice ring to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> mg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>>>>>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>>>>>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>>>>>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>>>>>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>>>>>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>>>>>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My few cents worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /Søren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>>>>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>>>>>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>>>>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project
>>>>>>> are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>>>>>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>>>>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
>>>>>>> Switch might become a reality:
>>>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-
>>>>>>> leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <realbluesun@hotmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java
>>>>>>>> Champions"
>>>>>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me
>>>>>>>> associate "Song
>>>>>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>>>>>>> associate
>>>>>>>> as I do...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>>>>>>> "Grape"
>>>>>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-
>>>>>>>> f329450.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>>>>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>>>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>>>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>
>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>>
> --
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Søren Berg Glasius <so...@glasius.dk>.
Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to
use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging
however :D
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or even GrooVIP :-D
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <
> cedric.champeau@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :)
>> Anoter option: VIP ;)
>>
>> 2018-02-20 <20%2018%2002%2020> 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <
>> jenn.strater@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name,
>>> everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>>>
>>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>>>
>>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My own few cents, too:
>>>>
>>>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons.
>>>> I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
>>>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
>>>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
>>>> only the language per se.
>>>>
>>>> Kostas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
>>>> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
>>>> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>>>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>>>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>>>
>>>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>>>
>>>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
>>>>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
>>>>> ring to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> mg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>>>
>>>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>>>>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>>>>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>>>>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>>>>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>>>>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>>>>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>>>
>>>>> My few cents worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Søren
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>>>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>>>>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>>>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>>>>>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>>>>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>>>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
>>>>>> Switch might become a reality:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java
>>>>>>> Champions"
>>>>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me
>>>>>>> associate "Song
>>>>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>>>>>> associate
>>>>>>> as I do...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>>>>>> "Grape"
>>>>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sent from:
>>>>>>> http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>>>
>>>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>>>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/pmcneil
>>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/110661434396927001866
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Laforge
> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>
> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>
--
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com>.
Or even GrooVIP :-D
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <ce...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :)
> Anoter option: VIP ;)
>
> 2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <je...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone
>> seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>>
>>
>> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
>>
>> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>>
>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>>
>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My own few cents, too:
>>>
>>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
>>> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
>>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
>>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
>>> only the language per se.
>>>
>>> Kostas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
>>> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
>>> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>>
>>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>
>>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>>
>>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
>>>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
>>>> ring to it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> mg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>>
>>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>>>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>>>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>>>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>>>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>>>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>>>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>>
>>>> My few cents worth.
>>>>
>>>> /Søren
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>>>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>>>>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>>>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>>>
>>>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
>>>>> Switch might become a reality:
>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-l
>>>>> eaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>>>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
>>>>>> "Song
>>>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>>>>> associate
>>>>>> as I do...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>>>>> "Grape"
>>>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble
>>>>>> .com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>>
>>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>>
>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> web: http://nerderg.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/pmcneil
>> Google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/110661434396927001866
>>
>>
>
--
Guillaume Laforge
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Cédric Champeau <ce...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :)
Anoter option: VIP ;)
2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <je...@gmail.com>:
> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone
> seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>
>
> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
>
> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>
> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>
> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My own few cents, too:
>>
>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
>> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
>> only the language per se.
>>
>> Kostas
>>
>>
>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>
>> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
>> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
>> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>
>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>
>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
>>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
>>> ring to it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> mg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>
>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>
>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>
>>> My few cents worth.
>>>
>>> /Søren
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>>
>>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>>>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>>
>>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
>>>> Switch might become a reality:
>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-l
>>>> eaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
>>>>> "Song
>>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>>>> associate
>>>>> as I do...
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>>>> "Grape"
>>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>>>
>>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble
>>>>> .com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>
>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Jennifer Strater <je...@gmail.com>.
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net> wrote:
>
> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>
>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My own few cents, too:
>>>
>>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not only the language per se.
>>>
>>> Kostas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>>> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>>>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>>>
>>>>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> mg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>>>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My few cents worth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Søren
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>>>>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>>>>>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
>>>>>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>>>>>>>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song
>>>>>>>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate
>>>>>>>>>> as I do...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"
>>>>>>>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>>>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>>>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>>>>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>>>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>>>>> Social: @glaforge / Google+
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Peter McNeil <pe...@mcneils.net>.
You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <saikos@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> My own few cents, too:
>
> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and
> cons. I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy
> Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished
> Community Member (Groovy DCM). New acronym, professional enough,
> focusing on the overall community and not only the language per se.
>
> Kostas
>
>
> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt
>> this would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would
>> actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products
>> of 2018" ?
>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>> <https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR>
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>
>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
>>> typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced
>>> its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> mg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>>
>>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines
>>>> light on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think
>>>> the name is both professional, and since it can be directly
>>>> linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes
>>>> perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in
>>>> music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find
>>>> examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a
>>>> valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much
>>>> better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>>
>>>> My few cents worth.
>>>>
>>>> /Søren
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>>> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>>
>>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>>
>>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars"
>>>> - consider whether that name really sends the right
>>>> professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am
>>>> convinced it does not.
>>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in
>>>> a project are typically conservative and sensitive to
>>>> those things, and they do not normally follow nerd
>>>> humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy
>>>> All Stars")
>>>>
>>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on
>>>> the Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
>>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>> <http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
>>>>> <realbluesun@hotmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it
>>>>> with "Java Champions"
>>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting
>>>>> but let me associate "Song
>>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other
>>>>> people would not associate
>>>>> as I do...
>>>>>
>>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested
>>>>> to name current "Grape"
>>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but
>>>>> not formal...
>>>>>
>>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from:
>>>>> http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>>> <http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>>
>>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <tel:+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>,
>>>> Skype: sbglasius
>>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>>
>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ <http://glaforge.appspot.com/>
>>> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
>>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>>
>
>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Paul King <pa...@asert.com.au>.
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My own few cents, too:
>
> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
> only the language per se.
>
> Kostas
>
>
> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>
> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to https://acronyms.
> thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>
> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>
> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>
>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>
>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
>> ring to it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with MG.
>>
>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>
>> My few cents worth.
>>
>> /Søren
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>
>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>
>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>
>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch
>>> might become a reality:
>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-l
>>> eaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
>>>> "Song
>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>>> associate
>>>> as I do...
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>>> "Grape"
>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>>
>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Laforge
> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>
> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
> Social: @glaforge <http://twitter.com/glaforge> / Google+
> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114130972232398734985/posts>
>
>
>
>
Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Kostas Saidis <sa...@gmail.com>.
My own few cents, too:
Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy
DCM). New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall
community and not only the language per se.
Kostas
On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
> I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually
> read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>
> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>
>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
>> typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its
>> 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>
>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light
>>> on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is
>>> both professional, and since it can be directly linked to the
>>> star in the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In
>>> sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you
>>> have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All
>>> Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's what Paul,
>>> Jochen and others are .
>>>
>>> My few cents worth.
>>>
>>> /Søren
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>>> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>
>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>
>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" -
>>> consider whether that name really sends the right
>>> professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced
>>> it does not.
>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a
>>> project are typically conservative and sensitive to those
>>> things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next
>>> suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to
>>> call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>
>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the
>>> Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>> <http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
>>>> <realbluesun@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with
>>>> "Java Champions"
>>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but
>>>> let me associate "Song
>>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people
>>>> would not associate
>>>> as I do...
>>>>
>>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to
>>>> name current "Grape"
>>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not
>>>> formal...
>>>>
>>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from:
>>>> http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>> <http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>
>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <tel:+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype:
>>> sbglasius
>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume Laforge
>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by MG <mg...@arscreat.com>.
I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually
read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>
> Following the sports analogy, what about
>
> "Groovy MVPs"
>
> ?
>
> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
> typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its
> 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.
>
> Cheers,
> mg
>
>
>
> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>> I disagree with MG.
>>
>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on
>> the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both
>> professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in
>> the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you
>> also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock
>> stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on
>> Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others
>> are .
>>
>> My few cents worth.
>>
>> /Søren
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mgbiz@arscreat.com
>> <ma...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>
>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>
>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" -
>> consider whether that name really sends the right
>> professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced
>> it does not.
>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a
>> project are typically conservative and sensitive to those
>> things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next
>> suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to
>> call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>
>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the
>> Nintendo Switch might become a reality:
>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>> <http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
>>> <realbluesun@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with
>>> "Java Champions"
>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let
>>> me associate "Song
>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people
>>> would not associate
>>> as I do...
>>>
>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to
>>> name current "Grape"
>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not
>>> formal...
>>>
>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> <http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>
>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <tel:+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype:
>> sbglasius
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>
>
>
>
> --
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> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?
Posted by Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com>.
For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
> Following the sports analogy, what about
>
> "Groovy MVPs"
>
> ?
>
> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
> ring to it.
>
> Cheers,
> mg
>
>
>
> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>
> I disagree with MG.
>
> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>
> My few cents worth.
>
> /Søren
>
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG <mg...@arscreat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>
>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>
>>
>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>
>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>
>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch
>> might become a reality:
>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-
>> leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun <re...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
>>> "Song
>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>> associate
>>> as I do...
>>>
>>> Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>> "Grape"
>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>
>>> To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>
>
>
--
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Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
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