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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> on 2005/07/21 14:44:46 UTC

gbean.org - what is it?

Dain, Alan, Hiram, Aaron,

The web site says "The GBean architecture a minimalistic kernel and
server framework for enterprise software."

- What is gbean.org?
- Is it related to geronimo?
- Is it a fork of geronimo code?
- Who should use gbean in geronimo?
- Is the gbean in geronimo dead and buried?
- why is there a fork? if it is one?
- why can't you guys work on it here at Apache?
- Shouldn't this be part and parcel of Geronimo? Isn't this what
Geronimo was designed for?

-- dims

-- 
Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/

Re: gbean.org - what is it?

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Sorry for the late response.  I have been working on the history of  
GBean and wanted to run it by the GBean community before posting it  
at large.

So "gbean.org - what is it?"  Find out here http://www.gbean.org/History

-dain

On Jul 21, 2005, at 5:44 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

> Dain, Alan, Hiram, Aaron,
>
> The web site says "The GBean architecture a minimalistic kernel and
> server framework for enterprise software."
>
> - What is gbean.org?
> - Is it related to geronimo?
> - Is it a fork of geronimo code?
> - Who should use gbean in geronimo?
> - Is the gbean in geronimo dead and buried?
> - why is there a fork? if it is one?
> - why can't you guys work on it here at Apache?
> - Shouldn't this be part and parcel of Geronimo? Isn't this what
> Geronimo was designed for?
>
> -- dims
>
> -- 
> Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
>


Re: gbean.org - what is it?

Posted by Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>.
Not being the one who created GBean.org I can speak for what it is but I'll
throw in my 2c about what I think it could be.

One of the areas that seems to confuse people I've talked to is that
Geronimo is really two things.  One the one hand it is a runtime framework
that is independent of J2EE.  I think the idea is to provide the services
and infrastructure so that a variety of server "personalities" can be
created that may or may not be J2EE centric.

The other Geronimo is the J2EE 1.4 personality that I think is the high
level focus of the group at this point.

IMHO there will eventually be a break in terms of the kernel infrastructure
versus the J2EE personality so I'm not too shocked at the creation of
GBean.org.  I think the low level of activity was because Geronimo is
getting to its logical J2EE certification.

In the future I would agree with GBean being the core of Geronimo and would
become a component of the personality just like Active MQ or Jetty is part
of the personality and can also stand alone today.

Personally, I think the GBean effort would best be an Apache project based
on its own merit as the effort began at Apache and is part of the Apache
family under the Apache license.  Moving to Codehaus permanently I think
gives the impression of a divided community and one lacking synergy.
Although I imagine that the right place will be found.

So, I vote +1 for GBean.org, server personalities and all this to take place
after V1.0.  :)

Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas P. Fuller" <th...@coherentlogic.com>
To: <de...@geronimo.apache.org>; <di...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: gbean.org - what is it?


> Good questions.
>
> --- Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dain, Alan, Hiram, Aaron,
> >
> > The web site says "The GBean architecture a
> > minimalistic kernel and
> > server framework for enterprise software."
> >
> > - What is gbean.org?
> > - Is it related to geronimo?
> > - Is it a fork of geronimo code?
> > - Who should use gbean in geronimo?
> > - Is the gbean in geronimo dead and buried?
> > - why is there a fork? if it is one?
> > - why can't you guys work on it here at Apache?
> > - Shouldn't this be part and parcel of Geronimo?
> > Isn't this what
> > Geronimo was designed for?
> >
> > -- dims
> >
> > -- 
> > Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
> >
>
>
>
>





Re: gbean.org - what is it?

Posted by "Thomas P. Fuller" <th...@coherentlogic.com>.
Good questions.

--- Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dain, Alan, Hiram, Aaron,
> 
> The web site says "The GBean architecture a
> minimalistic kernel and
> server framework for enterprise software."
> 
> - What is gbean.org?
> - Is it related to geronimo?
> - Is it a fork of geronimo code?
> - Who should use gbean in geronimo?
> - Is the gbean in geronimo dead and buried?
> - why is there a fork? if it is one?
> - why can't you guys work on it here at Apache?
> - Shouldn't this be part and parcel of Geronimo?
> Isn't this what
> Geronimo was designed for?
> 
> -- dims
> 
> -- 
> Davanum Srinivas -http://blogs.cocoondev.org/dims/
>