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Posted to log4j-dev@logging.apache.org by Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com> on 2017/04/05 10:57:40 UTC
Syslog
Why do we have both SyslogAppender and SyslogLayout/RFC5424Layout?
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Re: Syslog
Posted by Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com>.
No, if anything I would propose to remove (or deprecate) SyslogAppender.
But never mind.
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
> Let me rephrase. http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/
> appenders.html#SyslogAppender describes exactly what it does - write
> either using the BSD Syslog format or the RFC 5424 format. A user who wants
> to write to syslog is most likely going to look at that appender and use
> it. The SyslogAppender uses the two layouts to accomplish this. The fact
> that the two layouts are also available for people to use is incidental.
>
> Are you proposing that somehow the two layouts should not be available for
> user’s to use?
>
> Ralph
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> Ralph
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com>
> wrote:
>
> I see. But couldn't it be a bit confusing for users to have both?
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure I understand the question. Have you looked at the code? The
>> syslog appender is nothing more than the SocketAppender hardwired to use
>> one of those two layouts. However, there is nothing preventing someone from
>> using those Layouts with a different appender.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 3:57 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Why do we have both SyslogAppender and SyslogLayout/RFC5424Layout?
>>
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>>
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Re: Syslog
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Let me rephrase. http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/appenders.html#SyslogAppender <http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/manual/appenders.html#SyslogAppender> describes exactly what it does - write either using the BSD Syslog format or the RFC 5424 format. A user who wants to write to syslog is most likely going to look at that appender and use it. The SyslogAppender uses the two layouts to accomplish this. The fact that the two layouts are also available for people to use is incidental.
Are you proposing that somehow the two layouts should not be available for user’s to use?
Ralph
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> Ralph
>
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.staldal@magine.com <ma...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I see. But couldn't it be a bit confusing for users to have both?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com <ma...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
>> I’m not sure I understand the question. Have you looked at the code? The syslog appender is nothing more than the SocketAppender hardwired to use one of those two layouts. However, there is nothing preventing someone from using those Layouts with a different appender.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 3:57 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.staldal@magine.com <ma...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why do we have both SyslogAppender and SyslogLayout/RFC5424Layout?
>>>
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>>
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Re: Syslog
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Why?
Ralph
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 6:56 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com> wrote:
>
> I see. But couldn't it be a bit confusing for users to have both?
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com <ma...@dslextreme.com>> wrote:
> I’m not sure I understand the question. Have you looked at the code? The syslog appender is nothing more than the SocketAppender hardwired to use one of those two layouts. However, there is nothing preventing someone from using those Layouts with a different appender.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 3:57 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mikael.staldal@magine.com <ma...@magine.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Why do we have both SyslogAppender and SyslogLayout/RFC5424Layout?
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Mikael Ståldal
>> Senior software developer
>>
>> Magine TV
>> mikael.staldal@magine.com <ma...@magine.com>
>> Grev Turegatan 3 | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden | www.magine.com <http://www.magine.com/>
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Re: Syslog
Posted by Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com>.
I see. But couldn't it be a bit confusing for users to have both?
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
> I’m not sure I understand the question. Have you looked at the code? The
> syslog appender is nothing more than the SocketAppender hardwired to use
> one of those two layouts. However, there is nothing preventing someone from
> using those Layouts with a different appender.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 3:57 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com>
> wrote:
>
> Why do we have both SyslogAppender and SyslogLayout/RFC5424Layout?
>
> --
> [image: MagineTV]
>
> *Mikael Ståldal*
> Senior software developer
>
> *Magine TV*
> mikael.staldal@magine.com
> Grev Turegatan 3 | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden | www.magine.com
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Re: Syslog
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
I’m not sure I understand the question. Have you looked at the code? The syslog appender is nothing more than the SocketAppender hardwired to use one of those two layouts. However, there is nothing preventing someone from using those Layouts with a different appender.
Ralph
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 3:57 AM, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com> wrote:
>
> Why do we have both SyslogAppender and SyslogLayout/RFC5424Layout?
>
> --
>
>
> Mikael Ståldal
> Senior software developer
>
> Magine TV
> mikael.staldal@magine.com <ma...@magine.com>
> Grev Turegatan 3 | 114 46 Stockholm, Sweden | www.magine.com <http://www.magine.com/>
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