[jira] [Commented] (KAFKA-5716) Connect: When SourceTask.commit it is possible not everthing from SourceTask.poll has been sent

["Randall Hauch (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>]

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Randall Hauch commented on KAFKA-5716:
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[~steff1193], thanks for all the work on this, and sorry about the delay.

First of all, if we're going to change the public API we need to have a KIP. Second, it would be preferable to have a KIP and a PR that were much more minimalistic that contain only the essential changes we have to make to enable the correct behavior. From the previous conversations, this might include:

# Adding a {{committed(Map<SourcePartition, SourceOffset>)}} method that defaults to calling {{commit()}}, and that clearly describes it as being called with the latest offsets for records that were both written and whose offsets were committed.
# Deprecating the {{commit()}} method, and briefly describing why in the JavaDoc and that `committed(Map)` is the preferred approach.
# Change the {{WorkerSinkTask}} to call {{committed(Map)}} instead of {{commit()}}, and this will require tracking offsets a bit more carefully. (This is where this PR will get complicated, but it doesn't have to be in the KIP.)

The important thing is that we don't want to break backward compatibility, but we should provide a path forward for source connectors that need to rely upon this. WDYT?


> Connect: When SourceTask.commit it is possible not everthing from SourceTask.poll has been sent
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: KAFKA-5716
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-5716
>             Project: Kafka
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: KafkaConnect
>            Reporter: Per Steffensen
>            Assignee: Per Steffensen
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: KAFKA-5716.patch
>
>
> Not looking at the very latest code, so the "problem" may have been corrected recently. If so, I apologize. I found the "problem" by code-inspection alone, so I may be wrong. Have not had the time to write tests to confirm.
> According to java-doc on SourceTask.commit
> {quote}
> Commit the offsets, up to the offsets that have been returned by \{@link #poll()}. This
> method should block until the commit is complete.
> SourceTasks are not required to implement this functionality; Kafka Connect will record offsets
> automatically. This hook is provided for systems that also need to store offsets internally
> in their own system.
> {quote}
> As I read this, when commit-method is called, the SourceTask-developer is "told" that everything returned from poll up until "now" has been sent/stored - both the outgoing messages and the associated connect-offsets. Looking at the implementation it also seems that this is what it tries to "guarantee/achieve".
> But as I see read the code, it is not necessarily true
> The following threads are involved
> * Task-thread: WorkerSourceTask has its own thread running WorkerSourceTask.execute.
> * Committer-thread: From time to time SourceTaskOffsetCommitter is scheduled to call WorkerSourceTask.commitOffsets (from a different thread)
> The two thread synchronize (on the WorkerSourceTask-object) in sendRecord and commitOffsets respectively, hindering the task-thread to add to outstandingMessages and offsetWriter while committer-thread is marking what has to be flushed in the offsetWriter and waiting for outstandingMessages to be empty. This means that the offsets committed will be consistent with what has been sent out, but not necessarily what has been polled. At least I do not see why the following is not possible:
> * Task-thread polls something from the task.poll
> * Before task-thread gets to add (all) the polled records to outstandingMessages and offsetWriter in sendRecords, committer-thread kicks in and does its commiting, while hindering the task-thread adding the polled records to outstandingMessages and offsetWriter
> * Consistency will not have been compromised, but committer-thread will end up calling task.commit (via WorkerSourceTask.commitSourceTask), without the records just polled from task.poll has been sent or corresponding connector-offsets flushed.
> If I am right, I guess there are two way to fix it
> * Either change the java-doc of SourceTask.commit, to something a-la (which I do believe is true)
> {quote}
> Commit the offsets, up to the offsets that have been returned by \{@link #poll()}
> *and confirmed by a call to \{@link #commitRecord(SourceRecord)}*.
> This method should block until the commit is complete.
> SourceTasks are not required to implement this functionality; Kafka Connect will record offsets
> automatically. This hook is provided for systems that also need to store offsets internally
> in their own system.
> {quote}
> * or, fix the "problem" so that it actually does what the java-doc says :-)
> If I am not right, of course I apologize for the inconvenience. I would appreciate an explanation where my code-inspection is not correct, and why it works even though I cannot see it. I will not expect such an explanation, though.



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