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Posted to dev@chemistry.apache.org by Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com> on 2010/03/05 17:01:35 UTC

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
organization work.

As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.

To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
face-to-face to the list.

Florent


2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
> Hi Florent,
>
> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>
> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>
> This is a great idea Florent!
>
> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>
> Jens
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
> To: List-Chemistry
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>
> Hi all,
>
> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>
> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
> bases.
>
> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>
> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>
> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>
> Cheers,
> Florent
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by "Klevenz, Stephan" <st...@sap.com>.
Hi Florent,

I'll attending, too.

Thanks,
Stephan


-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Freitag, 5. März 2010 17:02
To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Hermes, Martin
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
organization work.

As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.

To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
face-to-face to the list.

Florent


2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
> Hi Florent,
>
> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>
> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>
> This is a great idea Florent!
>
> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>
> Jens
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
> To: List-Chemistry
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>
> Hi all,
>
> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>
> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
> bases.
>
> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>
> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>
> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>
> Cheers,
> Florent
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Dominique Pfister <do...@day.com>.
Hi,

I recently updated chemistry-jcr to make use of JCR 2.0 API features
and filled some missing functionality. In view of the the merge
meeting next week, I'd also like to share my thoughts about the
Chemistry API:

* methods in org.apache.chemistry.Connection vs SPI

there are similar methods in Connection and SPI, e.g. query() or
close(). I wonder, whether we actually need two different methods
here.

* number of methods in org.apache.chemistry.SPI

compared to the opencmis server's SPI, I prefer having more interfaces
that implement fewer methods, than having one SPI interface that
implements all of them. This gives a better overview of what
funtionality an implementation supports: some implementation would
simply not provide an implementation of an interface rather than
having a lot of "throw new UnsupportedOperationException()" in the
code.

* CMISObject/ObjectEntry extends ObjectId

of course, this comes in very handy, when a client e.g. has retrieved
a Folder and now passes this Folder again to a method that expects an
ObjectId. On the other hand, an SPI implementation might add quite
some overhead, if it does not "instanceof" check these arguments, as
they might already contain what the SPI is looking for. I'd personally
prefer having methods in CMISObject/ObjectEntry that return their
ObjectIds.

Kind regards
Dominique

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 AM, David Nuescheler
<da...@day.com> wrote:
> hi guys,
>
> unfortunately i have a scheduling conflict and cannot attend the f2f in munich.
> it is even more unfortunate that none of our developer can attend either due to
> other scheduling conflicts...
>
> we will try to have our input for the merge on the list so it can be
> used since we
> have been working with chemistry (as you can see from the recent check-ins)
> and definitely have some ideas...
>
> regards,
> david
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com> wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> All meeting details are here: http://cwiki.apache.org/CMIS/f2f-meeting-april-2010.html
>> Please let us know who is coming from Day as soon as possible. We have to organize a few things here.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Florian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Nuescheler [mailto:david.nuescheler@day.com]
>> Sent: Mittwoch, 31. März 2010 11:18
>> To: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: Florian Müller
>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>>
>> hi guys,
>>
>> are there any news on the scheduling and detailed location of the hackathon?
>> i would definitely like to join as well, and hopefully tag along some more
>> day chemistry / cmis developers.
>>
>> i would like to apologize if i missed some further information on the list...
>>
>> regards,
>> david
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thierry Delprat from Nuxeo will be coming as well.
>>>
>>> Florent
>>>
>>> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>>>> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>>>>
>>>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Florian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
>>>> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
>>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
>>>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
>>>> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
>>>> organization work.
>>>>
>>>> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
>>>> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>>>>
>>>> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
>>>> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
>>>> face-to-face to the list.
>>>>
>>>> Florent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>>>>> Hi Florent,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>>>>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>>>>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>>>>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>>>>
>>>>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>>>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>>>>> To: List-Chemistry
>>>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>>>>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>>>>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>>>>
>>>>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>>>>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>>>>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>>>>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>>>>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>>>>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>>>>> bases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>>>>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>>>>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>>>>
>>>>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>>>>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>>>>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>>>>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>>>>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Florent
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Nuescheler
>> Chief Technology Officer
>> mailto: david.nuescheler@day.com
>>
>> web:  http://www.day.com/ http://dev.day.com
>> twitter: @daysoftware
>>
>
>
>
> --
> David Nuescheler
> Chief Technology Officer
> mailto: david.nuescheler@day.com
>
> web:  http://www.day.com/ http://dev.day.com
> twitter: @daysoftware
>

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by David Nuescheler <da...@day.com>.
hi guys,

unfortunately i have a scheduling conflict and cannot attend the f2f in munich.
it is even more unfortunate that none of our developer can attend either due to
other scheduling conflicts...

we will try to have our input for the merge on the list so it can be
used since we
have been working with chemistry (as you can see from the recent check-ins)
and definitely have some ideas...

regards,
david

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> All meeting details are here: http://cwiki.apache.org/CMIS/f2f-meeting-april-2010.html
> Please let us know who is coming from Day as soon as possible. We have to organize a few things here.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Florian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nuescheler [mailto:david.nuescheler@day.com]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 31. März 2010 11:18
> To: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Florian Müller
> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>
> hi guys,
>
> are there any news on the scheduling and detailed location of the hackathon?
> i would definitely like to join as well, and hopefully tag along some more
> day chemistry / cmis developers.
>
> i would like to apologize if i missed some further information on the list...
>
> regards,
> david
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thierry Delprat from Nuxeo will be coming as well.
>>
>> Florent
>>
>> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>>> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>>>
>>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>>>
>>>
>>> - Florian
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
>>> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
>>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>>>
>>> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
>>> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
>>> organization work.
>>>
>>> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
>>> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>>>
>>> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
>>> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
>>> face-to-face to the list.
>>>
>>> Florent
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>>>> Hi Florent,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Stephan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>>>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>>>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>>>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>>>
>>>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>>>
>>>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>>>> To: List-Chemistry
>>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>>>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>>>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>>>
>>>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>>>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>>>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>>>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>>>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>>>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>>>> bases.
>>>>
>>>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>>>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>>>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>>>
>>>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>>>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>>>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>>>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>>>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>>>
>>>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Florent
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>
>
>
>
> --
> David Nuescheler
> Chief Technology Officer
> mailto: david.nuescheler@day.com
>
> web:  http://www.day.com/ http://dev.day.com
> twitter: @daysoftware
>



-- 
David Nuescheler
Chief Technology Officer
mailto: david.nuescheler@day.com

web:  http://www.day.com/ http://dev.day.com
twitter: @daysoftware

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>.
Hi David,

All meeting details are here: http://cwiki.apache.org/CMIS/f2f-meeting-april-2010.html
Please let us know who is coming from Day as soon as possible. We have to organize a few things here.


Cheers,

Florian

-----Original Message-----
From: David Nuescheler [mailto:david.nuescheler@day.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 31. März 2010 11:18
To: chemistry-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Florian Müller
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

hi guys,

are there any news on the scheduling and detailed location of the hackathon?
i would definitely like to join as well, and hopefully tag along some more
day chemistry / cmis developers.

i would like to apologize if i missed some further information on the list...

regards,
david

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thierry Delprat from Nuxeo will be coming as well.
>
> Florent
>
> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>>
>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>>
>>
>> - Florian
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
>> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>>
>> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
>> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
>> organization work.
>>
>> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
>> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>>
>> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
>> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
>> face-to-face to the list.
>>
>> Florent
>>
>>
>> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>>> Hi Florent,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>>
>>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>>
>>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>>
>>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>>
>>> Jens
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>>> To: List-Chemistry
>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>>
>>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>>> bases.
>>>
>>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>>
>>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>>
>>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Florent
>>>
>>> --
>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
David Nuescheler
Chief Technology Officer
mailto: david.nuescheler@day.com

web:  http://www.day.com/ http://dev.day.com
twitter: @daysoftware

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by David Nuescheler <da...@day.com>.
hi guys,

are there any news on the scheduling and detailed location of the hackathon?
i would definitely like to join as well, and hopefully tag along some more
day chemistry / cmis developers.

i would like to apologize if i missed some further information on the list...

regards,
david

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thierry Delprat from Nuxeo will be coming as well.
>
> Florent
>
> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>>
>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>>
>>
>> - Florian
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
>> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>>
>> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
>> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
>> organization work.
>>
>> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
>> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>>
>> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
>> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
>> face-to-face to the list.
>>
>> Florent
>>
>>
>> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>>> Hi Florent,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>>
>>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>>
>>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>>
>>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>>
>>> Jens
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>>> To: List-Chemistry
>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>>
>>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>>> bases.
>>>
>>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>>
>>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>>
>>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Florent
>>>
>>> --
>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
David Nuescheler
Chief Technology Officer
mailto: david.nuescheler@day.com

web:  http://www.day.com/ http://dev.day.com
twitter: @daysoftware

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>.
Hi,

Thierry Delprat from Nuxeo will be coming as well.

Florent

2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>
>
> - Florian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>
> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
> organization work.
>
> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>
> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
> face-to-face to the list.
>
> Florent
>
>
> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>> Hi Florent,
>>
>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>
>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>
>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>
>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>> To: List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>
>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>> bases.
>>
>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>
>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>
>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florent
>>
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by jo...@alfresco.com.
Travel is fine.

Sent from my iPhone
John Newton
+447890270532

On 10 Mar 2010, at 07:45, David Caruana <da...@alfresco.com>  
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Munich is fine with me. I'll just need to approve travel, but I  
> don't think that's an issue.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:14, Florent Guillaume wrote:
>
>> Hi Florian,
>>
>> Yes I can go to Munich.
>> But are other folks ok with that?
>> I guess that for SAP-folks Munich may be simpler than Paris, but  
>> David?
>>
>> Florent
>>
>>
>> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>>> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved.  
>>> So we cannot come to Paris.
>>>
>>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for  
>>> you?
>>>
>>>
>>> - Florian
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
>>> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
>>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>>>
>>> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
>>> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
>>> organization work.
>>>
>>> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if  
>>> you
>>> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>>>
>>> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
>>> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
>>> face-to-face to the list.
>>>
>>> Florent
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>>>> Hi Florent,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would  
>>>> like to join a f2f meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That  
>>>> would work for me.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Stephan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>>>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>>>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, M 
>>>> artin
>>>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>>>
>>>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>>>
>>>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about  
>>>> integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best  
>>>> option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be  
>>>> great to make that happen. Second week of April would be  
>>>> preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation  
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>>>> To: List-Chemistry
>>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz 
>>>> ; Martin Hermes
>>>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry  
>>>> and
>>>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into  
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common  
>>>> philosophy for
>>>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library,  
>>>> and
>>>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>>>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>>>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical  
>>>> matters
>>>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective  
>>>> code
>>>> bases.
>>>>
>>>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March  
>>>> or in
>>>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>>>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>>>
>>>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>>>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the  
>>>> understanding
>>>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will  
>>>> have to
>>>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to  
>>>> work
>>>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of  
>>>> course).
>>>>
>>>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or  
>>>> not) for you?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Florent
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by David Caruana <da...@alfresco.com>.
Hi,

Munich is fine with me. I'll just need to approve travel, but I don't think that's an issue.

Dave


On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:14, Florent Guillaume wrote:

> Hi Florian,
> 
> Yes I can go to Munich.
> But are other folks ok with that?
> I guess that for SAP-folks Munich may be simpler than Paris, but David?
> 
> Florent
> 
> 
> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>> 
>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>> 
>> 
>> - Florian
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
>> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>> 
>> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
>> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
>> organization work.
>> 
>> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
>> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>> 
>> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
>> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
>> face-to-face to the list.
>> 
>> Florent
>> 
>> 
>> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>>> Hi Florent,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>> 
>>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>> 
>>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>> 
>>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>> 
>>> Jens
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>>> To: List-Chemistry
>>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>> 
>>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>>> bases.
>>> 
>>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>> 
>>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>> 
>>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Florent
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87


RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by "Klevenz, Stephan" <st...@sap.com>.
Hi all,

Munich is also fine with me. 

Regards,
Stephan

-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Dienstag, 9. März 2010 18:15
To: Florian Müller; David Caruana
Cc: chemistry-dev
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Hi Florian,

Yes I can go to Munich.
But are other folks ok with that?
I guess that for SAP-folks Munich may be simpler than Paris, but David?

Florent


2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>
>
> - Florian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>
> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
> organization work.
>
> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>
> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
> face-to-face to the list.
>
> Florent
>
>
> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>> Hi Florent,
>>
>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>
>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>
>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>
>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>> To: List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>
>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>> bases.
>>
>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>
>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>
>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florent
>>
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>.
Hi Florian,

Yes I can go to Munich.
But are other folks ok with that?
I guess that for SAP-folks Munich may be simpler than Paris, but David?

Florent


2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.
>
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>
>
> - Florian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>
> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
> organization work.
>
> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
>
> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
> face-to-face to the list.
>
> Florent
>
>
> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>> Hi Florent,
>>
>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>>
>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>>
>> This is a great idea Florent!
>>
>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>> To: List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>>
>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>> bases.
>>
>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>>
>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>>
>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florent
>>
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
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Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>.
Thanks, Nick, for your support. It's very good to have somebody on site who is familiar with the Apache rules.

>From the OpenCMIS point of view there are three interfaces we should talk about. There is a client API, a more technical provider API and a server SPI. As far as I remember there is similar layering in Chemistry.

I'll start an new Wiki page with OpenCMIS code examples for all three. Meanwhile I added links to the JavaDocs of the interfaces. There is not much text there but it should be comprehensible for somebody who is familiar with CMIS.


- Florian

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Burch [mailto:nick.burch@alfresco.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 4:38 PM
To: chemistry-dev
Subject: RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Florian Müller wrote:
> I've created a Wiki page [1] to plan out the meeting. Please add your 
> name to the participants list if you plan to come.

I should be able to attend. I'd be planning to act as a mentor not a 
coder, so helping ensure things are done according to the Apache Way, as 
well as trying to keep the rest of the community in the loop with 
discussions.

With that in mind, it would be good if we could do a bit of planning 
before hand. (It's going to be a little tough for people not at the 
meeting to follow and comment, so we need to give them the best chance we 
can!) This would be in addition to working out the agenda.

For most of the codebase, in discrete chunks, I guess we'll need to decide 
between the options of:
* Keep the two versions in parallel
* Go for the Chemistry version
* Go for the OpenCMIS version
* Merge the two into a new API

One thing that would seem to be helpful is if we could identify a couple 
of small areas of both the API, and work up in advance what the latter 3 
options would entail. So, for example
* Document the Chemistry API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
   are, and what work there'd be for OpenCMIS users to switch to it
* Document the OpenCMIS API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
   are, and what work there'd be for Chemistry users to switch to it
* Try to write a combined API, and detail why it's better than the two
   original ones, and why it isn't

Everyone can then chip in with if they feel the documentation is fair, and 
if they feel the combined API has been done correctly. This will give us a 
start on reviewing, and give everyone something to reference in later 
discussions. That gives us the option to discuss in person a given bit of 
the API, and for example:
* In person discussions on FooBar API
* Decision that the Chemistry API is better in the case of FooBar, and
   that a migration from code calling the OpenCMIS api to switch would be
   easy
* Document the idea on the wiki
* Report to the list that "FooBar API seems quite like the case in
   example #1, and as such we're planning to keep the Chemistry Version
   as-is"
* Overnight someone reviews and spots an area where one bit the OpenCMIS
   API should be kept and merged in
* Re-discuss in person, and then commit the change to the FooBar API
* Discussions have been helpful, the community is kept in the loop, and
   community contributions have been very valuable

My fear is that without a few worked examples for everyone to review and 
discuss in advance, it's going to be too hard to capture and share the 
output of 3 hours of meetings and whiteboard scribblings in a way that 
people not there can comment on. I think we need some shared points of 
reference to point to.

Does that make sense to everyone? If so, does anyone have some ideas for a 
couple of (small!) areas of the code where there's duplication that we can
work through the different options in advance?

Nick

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Jens Hübel <jh...@opentext.com>.
HI Nick,

I think it would be very good to start with some discussions now and to be prepared as good as possible for the meeting.

Not sure if everyone has seen it... Florian provided a nice architecture diagram in the Wiki page:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CMIS/OpenCMIS+Modules

Stuff like this can help kicking off discussions, identifying common ideas and seeing differences in the design and implementation.

Jens


-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Burch [mailto:nick.burch@alfresco.com] 
Sent: Donnerstag, 11. März 2010 16:38
To: chemistry-dev
Subject: RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Florian Müller wrote:
> I've created a Wiki page [1] to plan out the meeting. Please add your 
> name to the participants list if you plan to come.

I should be able to attend. I'd be planning to act as a mentor not a 
coder, so helping ensure things are done according to the Apache Way, as 
well as trying to keep the rest of the community in the loop with 
discussions.

With that in mind, it would be good if we could do a bit of planning 
before hand. (It's going to be a little tough for people not at the 
meeting to follow and comment, so we need to give them the best chance we 
can!) This would be in addition to working out the agenda.

For most of the codebase, in discrete chunks, I guess we'll need to decide 
between the options of:
* Keep the two versions in parallel
* Go for the Chemistry version
* Go for the OpenCMIS version
* Merge the two into a new API

One thing that would seem to be helpful is if we could identify a couple 
of small areas of both the API, and work up in advance what the latter 3 
options would entail. So, for example
* Document the Chemistry API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
   are, and what work there'd be for OpenCMIS users to switch to it
* Document the OpenCMIS API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
   are, and what work there'd be for Chemistry users to switch to it
* Try to write a combined API, and detail why it's better than the two
   original ones, and why it isn't

Everyone can then chip in with if they feel the documentation is fair, and 
if they feel the combined API has been done correctly. This will give us a 
start on reviewing, and give everyone something to reference in later 
discussions. That gives us the option to discuss in person a given bit of 
the API, and for example:
* In person discussions on FooBar API
* Decision that the Chemistry API is better in the case of FooBar, and
   that a migration from code calling the OpenCMIS api to switch would be
   easy
* Document the idea on the wiki
* Report to the list that "FooBar API seems quite like the case in
   example #1, and as such we're planning to keep the Chemistry Version
   as-is"
* Overnight someone reviews and spots an area where one bit the OpenCMIS
   API should be kept and merged in
* Re-discuss in person, and then commit the change to the FooBar API
* Discussions have been helpful, the community is kept in the loop, and
   community contributions have been very valuable

My fear is that without a few worked examples for everyone to review and 
discuss in advance, it's going to be too hard to capture and share the 
output of 3 hours of meetings and whiteboard scribblings in a way that 
people not there can comment on. I think we need some shared points of 
reference to point to.

Does that make sense to everyone? If so, does anyone have some ideas for a 
couple of (small!) areas of the code where there's duplication that we can
work through the different options in advance?

Nick

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>.
BTW I haven't forgotten this email, I plan on answering ASAP :)

Florent

2010/3/11 Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Florian Müller wrote:
>>
>> I've created a Wiki page [1] to plan out the meeting. Please add your name to the participants list if you plan to come.
>
> I should be able to attend. I'd be planning to act as a mentor not a coder, so helping ensure things are done according to the Apache Way, as well as trying to keep the rest of the community in the loop with discussions.
>
> With that in mind, it would be good if we could do a bit of planning before hand. (It's going to be a little tough for people not at the meeting to follow and comment, so we need to give them the best chance we can!) This would be in addition to working out the agenda.
>
> For most of the codebase, in discrete chunks, I guess we'll need to decide between the options of:
> * Keep the two versions in parallel
> * Go for the Chemistry version
> * Go for the OpenCMIS version
> * Merge the two into a new API
>
> One thing that would seem to be helpful is if we could identify a couple of small areas of both the API, and work up in advance what the latter 3 options would entail. So, for example
> * Document the Chemistry API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
>  are, and what work there'd be for OpenCMIS users to switch to it
> * Document the OpenCMIS API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
>  are, and what work there'd be for Chemistry users to switch to it
> * Try to write a combined API, and detail why it's better than the two
>  original ones, and why it isn't
>
> Everyone can then chip in with if they feel the documentation is fair, and if they feel the combined API has been done correctly. This will give us a start on reviewing, and give everyone something to reference in later discussions. That gives us the option to discuss in person a given bit of the API, and for example:
> * In person discussions on FooBar API
> * Decision that the Chemistry API is better in the case of FooBar, and
>  that a migration from code calling the OpenCMIS api to switch would be
>  easy
> * Document the idea on the wiki
> * Report to the list that "FooBar API seems quite like the case in
>  example #1, and as such we're planning to keep the Chemistry Version
>  as-is"
> * Overnight someone reviews and spots an area where one bit the OpenCMIS
>  API should be kept and merged in
> * Re-discuss in person, and then commit the change to the FooBar API
> * Discussions have been helpful, the community is kept in the loop, and
>  community contributions have been very valuable
>
> My fear is that without a few worked examples for everyone to review and discuss in advance, it's going to be too hard to capture and share the output of 3 hours of meetings and whiteboard scribblings in a way that people not there can comment on. I think we need some shared points of reference to point to.
>
> Does that make sense to everyone? If so, does anyone have some ideas for a couple of (small!) areas of the code where there's duplication that we can
> work through the different options in advance?
>
> Nick



-- 
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Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Florian Müller wrote:
> I've created a Wiki page [1] to plan out the meeting. Please add your 
> name to the participants list if you plan to come.

I should be able to attend. I'd be planning to act as a mentor not a 
coder, so helping ensure things are done according to the Apache Way, as 
well as trying to keep the rest of the community in the loop with 
discussions.

With that in mind, it would be good if we could do a bit of planning 
before hand. (It's going to be a little tough for people not at the 
meeting to follow and comment, so we need to give them the best chance we 
can!) This would be in addition to working out the agenda.

For most of the codebase, in discrete chunks, I guess we'll need to decide 
between the options of:
* Keep the two versions in parallel
* Go for the Chemistry version
* Go for the OpenCMIS version
* Merge the two into a new API

One thing that would seem to be helpful is if we could identify a couple 
of small areas of both the API, and work up in advance what the latter 3 
options would entail. So, for example
* Document the Chemistry API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
   are, and what work there'd be for OpenCMIS users to switch to it
* Document the OpenCMIS API, what its strengths are, what its weaknesses
   are, and what work there'd be for Chemistry users to switch to it
* Try to write a combined API, and detail why it's better than the two
   original ones, and why it isn't

Everyone can then chip in with if they feel the documentation is fair, and 
if they feel the combined API has been done correctly. This will give us a 
start on reviewing, and give everyone something to reference in later 
discussions. That gives us the option to discuss in person a given bit of 
the API, and for example:
* In person discussions on FooBar API
* Decision that the Chemistry API is better in the case of FooBar, and
   that a migration from code calling the OpenCMIS api to switch would be
   easy
* Document the idea on the wiki
* Report to the list that "FooBar API seems quite like the case in
   example #1, and as such we're planning to keep the Chemistry Version
   as-is"
* Overnight someone reviews and spots an area where one bit the OpenCMIS
   API should be kept and merged in
* Re-discuss in person, and then commit the change to the FooBar API
* Discussions have been helpful, the community is kept in the loop, and
   community contributions have been very valuable

My fear is that without a few worked examples for everyone to review and 
discuss in advance, it's going to be too hard to capture and share the 
output of 3 hours of meetings and whiteboard scribblings in a way that 
people not there can comment on. I think we need some shared points of 
reference to point to.

Does that make sense to everyone? If so, does anyone have some ideas for a 
couple of (small!) areas of the code where there's duplication that we can
work through the different options in advance?

Nick

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>.
Hi all,

I've created a Wiki page [1] to plan out the meeting. Please add your name to the participants list if you plan to come.
Feel free to add information and ideas. Who will start with a initial proposal of an agenda?


Cheers,

Florian

[1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CMIS/F2F+Meeting+April+2010


-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Florian Müller
Cc: chemistry-dev
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?

Ok so it seems everyone can go to Munich.
Florian, are things firm? Can I start booking my airplane tickets? :)

Bye,
Florent

-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Nick Burch <ni...@alfresco.com>.
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, Florian Müller wrote:
> Do you (all participants) want to use the weekend or Monday morning for 
> travel?

The weekend before is the Apache Retreat in Ireland. It would be good if 
one or two of you could make it along to that. It'll be a great chance for 
everyone to learn more about the apache way, ask advice about code 
merging, get feedback on what works and doesn't work with F2F meetings 
etc.

Nick

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>.
Hi All,

FYI I also plan on arriving around noonish on Monday and leaving
around noon on Friday. I'll keep you posted when I've booked
something.

Florent


2010/3/12 Goetz, Paul <pa...@sap.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Stephan and I plan for travelling Monday morning, we would arrive between 12:30 and 13:00 then (in time for lunch :o) - and we plan to leave at about 12:00 on Friday.
>
> As Florian listed some hotels in the Wiki (see http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CMIS/F2F+Meeting+April+2010): We would prefer to stay downtown, although this means about 30 minutes commuting from downtown to office - but makes things easier in the evening :o)
> Are there objections, or is there someone who prefers the hotel near to the office instead?
>
> Best regards,
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florian Müller [mailto:fmueller@opentext.com]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 17:53
> To: chemistry-dev
> Cc: Florent Guillaume
> Subject: RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>
> Before you start booking we should agree on the arrival and departure times.
> Do you (all participants) want to use the weekend or Monday morning for travel? Do we want to use the full Friday or do you want to go back in the afternoon?
>
> Apart for those details, we are happy to welcome you in Munich!
>
>
> @Florent: There is a direct TGV connection Paris-Munich.
>
>
> - Florian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:05 PM
> To: Florian Müller
> Cc: chemistry-dev
> Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16
>
> 2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
>> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?
>
> Ok so it seems everyone can go to Munich.
> Florian, are things firm? Can I start booking my airplane tickets? :)
>
> Bye,
> Florent
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by "Goetz, Paul" <pa...@sap.com>.
Hi,

Stephan and I plan for travelling Monday morning, we would arrive between 12:30 and 13:00 then (in time for lunch :o) - and we plan to leave at about 12:00 on Friday.

As Florian listed some hotels in the Wiki (see http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CMIS/F2F+Meeting+April+2010): We would prefer to stay downtown, although this means about 30 minutes commuting from downtown to office - but makes things easier in the evening :o)
Are there objections, or is there someone who prefers the hotel near to the office instead?

Best regards,
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Florian Müller [mailto:fmueller@opentext.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 17:53
To: chemistry-dev
Cc: Florent Guillaume
Subject: RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Before you start booking we should agree on the arrival and departure times. 
Do you (all participants) want to use the weekend or Monday morning for travel? Do we want to use the full Friday or do you want to go back in the afternoon?

Apart for those details, we are happy to welcome you in Munich!


@Florent: There is a direct TGV connection Paris-Munich.


- Florian

-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Florian Müller
Cc: chemistry-dev
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?

Ok so it seems everyone can go to Munich.
Florian, are things firm? Can I start booking my airplane tickets? :)

Bye,
Florent

-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>.
Before you start booking we should agree on the arrival and departure times. 
Do you (all participants) want to use the weekend or Monday morning for travel? Do we want to use the full Friday or do you want to go back in the afternoon?

Apart for those details, we are happy to welcome you in Munich!


@Florent: There is a direct TGV connection Paris-Munich.


- Florian

-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Florian Müller
Cc: chemistry-dev
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?

Ok so it seems everyone can go to Munich.
Florian, are things firm? Can I start booking my airplane tickets? :)

Bye,
Florent

-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florent Guillaume <fg...@nuxeo.com>.
2010/3/9 Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>:
> But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?

Ok so it seems everyone can go to Munich.
Florian, are things firm? Can I start booking my airplane tickets? :)

Bye,
Florent

-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>.
Unfortunately, Jens and my travel requests have not been approved. So we cannot come to Paris.

But we can invite you to Munich for that week. Would that work for you?


- Florian


-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
organization work.

As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.

To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
face-to-face to the list.

Florent


2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
> Hi Florent,
>
> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>
> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>
> This is a great idea Florent!
>
> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>
> Jens
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
> To: List-Chemistry
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>
> Hi all,
>
> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>
> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
> bases.
>
> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>
> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>
> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>
> Cheers,
> Florent
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
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Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87

Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by David Caruana <da...@alfresco.com>.
Hi Florent,

I'll be able to attend.

Thanks,
Dave

On 5 Mar 2010, at 16:01, Florent Guillaume wrote:

> Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
> I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
> organization work.
> 
> As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
> know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.
> 
> To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
> list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
> face-to-face to the list.
> 
> Florent
> 
> 
> 2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
>> Hi Florent,
>> 
>> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>> 
>> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
>> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
>> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>> 
>> This is a great idea Florent!
>> 
>> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>> 
>> Jens
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
>> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
>> To: List-Chemistry
>> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
>> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
>> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>> 
>> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
>> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
>> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
>> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
>> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
>> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
>> bases.
>> 
>> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
>> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
>> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>> 
>> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
>> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
>> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
>> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
>> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>> 
>> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Florent
>> 
>> --
>> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
>> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
>> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87


RE: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Posted by Florian Müller <fm...@opentext.com>.
Thanks, Florent.
I'll try to be there. I'm still waiting for my travel approval.

Florian

-----Original Message-----
From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:02 PM
To: List-Chemistry; Klevenz, Stephan
Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Martin Hermes
Subject: Re: Meeting and code merge 4/12 - 4/16

Yes, this would be from April 12th to April 16th.
I've started the process here to reserve a room and do the necessary
organization work.

As I said before anyone is invited; I'd appreciate confirmation if you
know you can come, or even if it's possible you will.

To answer Gianugo's concern, we'll be doing discussing things on the
list beforehand anyway, and we'll reflect anything happening in
face-to-face to the list.

Florent


2010/3/2 Klevenz, Stephan <st...@sap.com>:
> Hi Florent,
>
> Thanks for your proposal, this makes absolutely sense and I would like to join a f2f meeting.
>
> Second week of April means from 12.4. to 16.04., right? That would work for me.
>
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jens Hübel [mailto:jhuebel@opentext.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. März 2010 17:29
> An: Florent Guillaume; List-Chemistry
> Cc: Florian Müller; David Caruana; Klevenz, Stephan; Hermes, Martin
> Betreff: RE: Meeting and code merge
>
> This is a great idea Florent!
>
> I really would appreciate if we could talk a bit more about integration options. A f2f meeting of course would be the best option. Assuming that we get travel budget approved it would be great to make that happen. Second week of April would be preferred, first week is Eastern and many people are in vacation here.
>
> Jens
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Florent Guillaume [mailto:fg@nuxeo.com]
> Sent: Montag, 1. März 2010 19:37
> To: List-Chemistry
> Cc: Jens Hübel; Florian Müller; David Caruana; Stephan Klevenz; Martin Hermes
> Subject: Meeting and code merge
>
> Hi all,
>
> Nuxeo would like to invite the architects and coders of Chemistry and
> OpenCMIS to a real-life meeting to merge the two libraries into one.
>
> The goal of the meeting would be to agree on one common philosophy for
> the core, APIs, and in general architecture of our CMIS library, and
> to refactor what's needed to effect the merge and stop having two
> separate code bases (which I think we all agree is a waste of
> resources). For this meeting we would agree to put technical matters
> and excellence first, and not dwell on the past of our respective code
> bases.
>
> Nuxeo proposes to host the meeting in Paris, at the end of March or in
> April. I think it should last around one week, if we want to be
> thorough and not do just half of the work.
>
> The people I'm thinking about are Florian, Jens, David, Stephan and
> Martin, but others would be welcome as well - with the understanding
> that this will be a design and coding session, and people will have to
> be very familiar with the spec and the code base and will have to work
> together to do this refactoring (after initial discussions of course).
>
> What do you think? Are there dates that would work better (or not) for you?
>
> Cheers,
> Florent
>
> --
> Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
> Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
> http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87
>



-- 
Florent Guillaume, Director of R&D, Nuxeo
Open Source, Java EE based, Enterprise Content Management (ECM)
http://www.nuxeo.com   http://www.nuxeo.org   +33 1 40 33 79 87