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[geometry] Beta Release
Hello,
I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
Regards,
Matt J
Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hi.
Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 14:47, Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> I can try to help with that later this week potentially. My main question is: do we want to change the base package name across the component to `org.apache.commons.beta` for the beta release?
+1
Follow-up question: Do we agree that compatibility can be broken
under package "org.apache.commons.beta"?
Gilles
>
> -Rob
>
> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Matt Juntunen <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Matt J
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Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com>.
I can try to help with that later this week potentially. My main question is: do we want to change the base package name across the component to `org.apache.commons.beta` for the beta release?
-Rob
> On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:41 AM, Matt Juntunen <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
>
> Regards,
> Matt J
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Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com>.
> On Jan 21, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 18:28, Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 21, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Matt Juntunen <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do we agree that compatibility can be broken
>>>> under package "org.apache.commons.beta"?
>>
>> My impression was that BC can be broken moving from beta to first major release, regardless.
>
> The question was about breaking compatibility in successive *beta*
> releases, i.e.
> no package name change between versions, say, "beta-0.1" and "beta-0.2".
>
>> But, changing the package name certainly makes the change contentious.
>
> I don't understand.
I think if we make the package name across the project “org.apache.commons.geometry.beta.*” or something like that then we can do as many releases with breaking changes as we want. Then when we’re ready to go out the door with a 1.0, we simply drop the “beta” substring from the package name and roll.
That said, if you want to use the stuff in a beta capacity without changing the package name, and append a beta version, then we can probably convince folks to allow for breaking changes regardless.
Thoughts?
Ready to help with a release if necessary.
-Rob
>
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>>
>>> I believe so. If not, there wouldn't be much of a reason to do a beta version in the first place; we would just release 1.0 and then quickly jump to 2.0 (if needed).
>>>
>>>> Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
>>>
>>> Is commons-numbers ready for a beta release as well?
>
> I think so (this should be discussed in another post).
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 12:11 PM
>>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [geometry] Beta Release
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>>> Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 14:41, Matt Juntunen
>>>> <ma...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
>>>
>>> Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Gilles
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Matt J
>>>
>
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Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello.
Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 18:28, Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Matt Juntunen <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Do we agree that compatibility can be broken
> >> under package "org.apache.commons.beta"?
>
> My impression was that BC can be broken moving from beta to first major release, regardless.
The question was about breaking compatibility in successive *beta*
releases, i.e.
no package name change between versions, say, "beta-0.1" and "beta-0.2".
> But, changing the package name certainly makes the change contentious.
I don't understand.
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> > I believe so. If not, there wouldn't be much of a reason to do a beta version in the first place; we would just release 1.0 and then quickly jump to 2.0 (if needed).
> >
> >> Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
> >
> > Is commons-numbers ready for a beta release as well?
I think so (this should be discussed in another post).
Regards,
Gilles
> >
> > -Matt
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 12:11 PM
> > To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: [geometry] Beta Release
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> >> Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 14:41, Matt Juntunen
> >> <ma...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
> >
> > Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
> >
> > Best,
> > Gilles
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Matt J
> >
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Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com>.
> On Jan 21, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Matt Juntunen <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Do we agree that compatibility can be broken
>> under package "org.apache.commons.beta"?
My impression was that BC can be broken moving from beta to first major release, regardless. But, changing the package name certainly makes the change contentious.
-Rob
>
> I believe so. If not, there wouldn't be much of a reason to do a beta version in the first place; we would just release 1.0 and then quickly jump to 2.0 (if needed).
>
>> Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
>
> Is commons-numbers ready for a beta release as well?
>
> -Matt
> ________________________________
> From: Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 12:11 PM
> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [geometry] Beta Release
>
> Hello.
>
>> Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 14:41, Matt Juntunen
>> <ma...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
>
> Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
>
> Best,
> Gilles
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Matt J
>
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Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Matt Juntunen <ma...@hotmail.com>.
> Do we agree that compatibility can be broken
> under package "org.apache.commons.beta"?
I believe so. If not, there wouldn't be much of a reason to do a beta version in the first place; we would just release 1.0 and then quickly jump to 2.0 (if needed).
> Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
Is commons-numbers ready for a beta release as well?
-Matt
________________________________
From: Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 12:11 PM
To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Hello.
Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 14:41, Matt Juntunen
<ma...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
Best,
Gilles
>
> Regards,
> Matt J
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Re: [geometry] Beta Release
Posted by Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>.
Hello.
Le mar. 21 janv. 2020 à 14:41, Matt Juntunen
<ma...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I think that commons-geometry is ready for a beta release, as discussed previously. If there are no objections, how do we make that happen?
Note that "Numbers" should be released first (eventually "beta" too).
Best,
Gilles
>
> Regards,
> Matt J
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