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Posted to jcp-open@apache.org by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> on 2010/05/14 17:00:41 UTC
TCK download access for Jeff....
Geir,
Can Jeff Genender be given access to the Java partner website as well?
He's the one that is submitting the challenges to Oracle, but one of the
things he cannot do right now is actually check to make sure a newer TCK is
already available prior to submitting the challenge. I think it would
definitely be best if he could at least check for newer TCK's prior to
submitting a challenge just to reduce the embarrassment of submitting
challenges for tests that have already been fixed/changed. I know we've hit
this problem in the past and it's not something that really should be an
issue.
The other two alternatives are:
1) Somehow get it so that Mark and I can also submit challenges. I really
don't know anything about that though.
2) Change the "workflow" so that new challenges are first assigned to Mark or
myself to verify the TCK level. After that is done, we re-assign the issue to
Jeff.
Thanks!
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 14/05/2010 16:34, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>
>> On 14/05/2010 16:00, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>
>>> Geir,
>>>
>>> Can Jeff Genender be given access to the Java partner website as well?
>>>
>>> He's the one that is submitting the challenges to Oracle, but one of the
>>> things he cannot do right now is actually check to make sure a newer TCK is
>>> already available prior to submitting the challenge. I think it would
>>> definitely be best if he could at least check for newer TCK's prior to
>>> submitting a challenge just to reduce the embarrassment of submitting
>>> challenges for tests that have already been fixed/changed. I know we've hit
>>> this problem in the past and it's not something that really should be an
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> The other two alternatives are:
>>> 1) Somehow get it so that Mark and I can also submit challenges. I really
>>> don't know anything about that though.
>>
>> Anyone can issue a challenge. They just need to send an e-mail with the
>> required information to our POC at Sun. I'll stick their contact details
>> in the repo in a sec.
>
> I don't think we want that
Removed for now.
> - we've always asked that there be coordination points for this in the projects as to not assail the spec leads w/ random questions from random people.
That's news to me. Where is this documented?
>>> 2) Change the "workflow" so that new challenges are first assigned to Mark or
>>> myself to verify the TCK level. After that is done, we re-assign the issue to
>>> Jeff.
>>
>> I believe we get e-mailed if updated packages are added to the
>> JavaPartner website. As long as we respond to those reasonably promptly
>> we should be OK.
>
> I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
>
> a) things are decently organized and
>
> b) things remain visible and civil
Sounds like you have a process in mind for this. Is it documented anywhere?
Mark
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
A new list might be a good idea because geronimo uses GERONIMO-TCK for tracking work on our tck harness as well as challenges.
thanks
david jencks
On May 14, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> right - that's what I meant- broaden scope...
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>
>> We already do... GERONIMO-TCK... which has been used for several projects for TCK challenges.
>>
>> It probably should be renamed to TCK-CHALLENGES.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On May 14, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> should we have a JIRA project for this?
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 14, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
>>>>>
>>>>> a) things are decently organized and
>>>>>
>>>>> b) things remain visible and civil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I currently update JIRA when I submit as well as responses, so anyone who wants to know whats up can know ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@pobox.com>.
right - that's what I meant- broaden scope...
On May 14, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
> We already do... GERONIMO-TCK... which has been used for several projects for TCK challenges.
>
> It probably should be renamed to TCK-CHALLENGES.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
>> should we have a JIRA project for this?
>>
>> On May 14, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
>>>>
>>>> a) things are decently organized and
>>>>
>>>> b) things remain visible and civil
>>>>
>>>
>>> I currently update JIRA when I submit as well as responses, so anyone who wants to know whats up can know ;-)
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>
>
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by Jeff Genender <jg...@apache.org>.
We already do... GERONIMO-TCK... which has been used for several projects for TCK challenges.
It probably should be renamed to TCK-CHALLENGES.
Jeff
On May 14, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> should we have a JIRA project for this?
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 14, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
>>>
>>> a) things are decently organized and
>>>
>>> b) things remain visible and civil
>>>
>>
>> I currently update JIRA when I submit as well as responses, so anyone who wants to know whats up can know ;-)
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@pobox.com>.
should we have a JIRA project for this?
On May 14, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>> I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
>>
>> a) things are decently organized and
>>
>> b) things remain visible and civil
>>
>
> I currently update JIRA when I submit as well as responses, so anyone who wants to know whats up can know ;-)
>
> Jeff
>
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by Jeff Genender <jg...@savoirtech.com>.
On May 14, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
>
> a) things are decently organized and
>
> b) things remain visible and civil
>
I currently update JIRA when I submit as well as responses, so anyone who wants to know whats up can know ;-)
Jeff
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@pobox.com>.
On May 14, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 14/05/2010 16:00, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>
>> Geir,
>>
>> Can Jeff Genender be given access to the Java partner website as well?
>>
>> He's the one that is submitting the challenges to Oracle, but one of the
>> things he cannot do right now is actually check to make sure a newer TCK is
>> already available prior to submitting the challenge. I think it would
>> definitely be best if he could at least check for newer TCK's prior to
>> submitting a challenge just to reduce the embarrassment of submitting
>> challenges for tests that have already been fixed/changed. I know we've hit
>> this problem in the past and it's not something that really should be an
>> issue.
>>
>> The other two alternatives are:
>> 1) Somehow get it so that Mark and I can also submit challenges. I really
>> don't know anything about that though.
>
> Anyone can issue a challenge. They just need to send an e-mail with the
> required information to our POC at Sun. I'll stick their contact details
> in the repo in a sec.
I don't think we want that - we've always asked that there be coordination points for this in the projects as to not assail the spec leads w/ random questions from random people.
>
>> 2) Change the "workflow" so that new challenges are first assigned to Mark or
>> myself to verify the TCK level. After that is done, we re-assign the issue to
>> Jeff.
>
> I believe we get e-mailed if updated packages are added to the
> JavaPartner website. As long as we respond to those reasonably promptly
> we should be OK.
I think that we should be cc-ed on the challenges just to be sure that
a) things are decently organized and
b) things remain visible and civil
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Friday 14 May 2010 11:08:50 am Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 14/05/2010 16:00, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> > Geir,
> >
> > Can Jeff Genender be given access to the Java partner website as well?
> >
> > He's the one that is submitting the challenges to Oracle, but one of the
> > things he cannot do right now is actually check to make sure a newer TCK
> > is already available prior to submitting the challenge. I think it
> > would definitely be best if he could at least check for newer TCK's
> > prior to submitting a challenge just to reduce the embarrassment of
> > submitting challenges for tests that have already been fixed/changed.
> > I know we've hit this problem in the past and it's not something that
> > really should be an issue.
> >
> > The other two alternatives are:
> > 1) Somehow get it so that Mark and I can also submit challenges. I
> > really don't know anything about that though.
>
> Anyone can issue a challenge. They just need to send an e-mail with the
> required information to our POC at Sun. I'll stick their contact details
> in the repo in a sec.
OK. Cool.
> > 2) Change the "workflow" so that new challenges are first assigned to
> > Mark or myself to verify the TCK level. After that is done, we
> > re-assign the issue to Jeff.
>
> I believe we get e-mailed if updated packages are added to the
> JavaPartner website. As long as we respond to those reasonably promptly
> we should be OK.
I was kind of expecting that as well. However, I noticed there was a new
version of the jaxws 2.2 tck released last week that I didn't get an email
for. I only noticed it because I logged in to check to see if there was a
new one as part of challenging a test. I don't know if it hit a spam filter
of if it ran into some other mail issues or what.
--
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org
http://dankulp.com/blog
Re: TCK download access for Jeff....
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 14/05/2010 16:00, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>
> Geir,
>
> Can Jeff Genender be given access to the Java partner website as well?
>
> He's the one that is submitting the challenges to Oracle, but one of the
> things he cannot do right now is actually check to make sure a newer TCK is
> already available prior to submitting the challenge. I think it would
> definitely be best if he could at least check for newer TCK's prior to
> submitting a challenge just to reduce the embarrassment of submitting
> challenges for tests that have already been fixed/changed. I know we've hit
> this problem in the past and it's not something that really should be an
> issue.
>
> The other two alternatives are:
> 1) Somehow get it so that Mark and I can also submit challenges. I really
> don't know anything about that though.
Anyone can issue a challenge. They just need to send an e-mail with the
required information to our POC at Sun. I'll stick their contact details
in the repo in a sec.
> 2) Change the "workflow" so that new challenges are first assigned to Mark or
> myself to verify the TCK level. After that is done, we re-assign the issue to
> Jeff.
I believe we get e-mailed if updated packages are added to the
JavaPartner website. As long as we respond to those reasonably promptly
we should be OK.
Mark