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[GitHub] [solr-site] janhoy opened a new pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

janhoy opened a new pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33


   This PR removes all the code for the sticky-note alerting users that Solr is now a TLP.
   
   I don't remember whether we decided to alert people for 12 months initially, there is a logic that will not open the modal box after 2022-03-01. However, most existing / active Solr users would have visited the site by now, so I'm proposing to remove the popup sooner rather than later. Or we can just let this PR sit here idle until we feel it is time :)
   
   I considered whether we should leave a JS line that removes the `alreadyVisited` cookie from people's browsers, but I don't think it is necessary, as it will expire in 400 days anyway.


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[GitHub] [solr-site] uschindler commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
uschindler commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-903555088


   > We do not need to give users a chance to opt out if the need to store the cookie and identify them is a legitimate interest of ours. If it is for certain things like personalization or user preferences, things get murky.
   
   That's all fine here. GDPR does not even use the term "cookie", it just talks about information that identifies a user at the data processor. A cookie per se is not part of that, as long as it is not used to identify a user on our servers ("data processor"). And that's not what was done here. The cookie can contain anything, as long as we have no corresponding record on our side, we can't identify users.


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[GitHub] [solr-site] uschindler commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
uschindler commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-902319596


   > Does the cookie comply with @janhoy ? IOW, do we make it easy for users to be forgotten?
   
   This is not a tracking cookie, so it's not affected by GDPR. It's a boolean without personal identification data on user's computer. Adding JavaScript code that deals with this cookie is contraproductive, because this code would actually touch user's data.
   
   User's can delete the cookie on their own.


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[GitHub] [solr-site] janhoy merged pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
janhoy merged pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33


   


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[GitHub] [solr-site] janhoy commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
janhoy commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-902174993


   > Does the cookie comply with @janhoy ? IOW, do we make it easy for users to be forgotten?
   
   Please explain what you mean. It’s just an empty cookie in users browser that remembers they have seen the popup.


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[GitHub] [solr-site] MarcusSorealheis commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
MarcusSorealheis commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-904298542


   Makes total sense. Thanks for clarifying.
   
   On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:30 AM Uwe Schindler ***@***.***>
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   > We do not need to give users a chance to opt out if the need to store the
   > cookie and identify them is a legitimate interest of ours. If it is for
   > certain things like personalization or user preferences, things get murky.
   >
   > That's all fine here. GDPR does not even use the term "cookie", it just
   > talks about information that identifies a user at the data processor. A
   > cookie per se is not part of that, as long as it is not used to identify a
   > user on our servers ("data processor"). And that's not what was done here.
   > The cookie can contain anything, as long as we have no corresponding record
   > on our side, we can't identify users.
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[GitHub] [solr-site] uschindler commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
uschindler commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-901720483


   +1


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[GitHub] [solr-site] uschindler commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
uschindler commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-901722209


   No need to remove the cookie.


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[GitHub] [solr-site] MarcusSorealheis commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
MarcusSorealheis commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-903522247


   This all makes sense. My understanding of GDPR was that if there was ever a cookie present on a site that is used to identify a user, not necessarily in the real world nor using PII, we would need to tell the users that we use cookies to give them an opportunity to opt out. We do not need to give users a chance to opt out if the need to store the cookie and identify them is a legitimate interest of ours. If it is for certain things like personalization or user preferences, things get murky.
   
   Of course, I am deferring to your knowledge on GDPR as you have a lot more experience with it I presume. I think the larger point is that Apache stores nothing about the users now. So, maybe this is all moot? I wanted to be sure I raised it because I was not sure, and therefore I was not sure it was an oversight or not. 


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[GitHub] [solr-site] MarcusSorealheis commented on pull request #33: Remove the sticky-note that appears on first visit

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
MarcusSorealheis commented on pull request #33:
URL: https://github.com/apache/solr-site/pull/33#issuecomment-902145001


   Does the cookie comply with @janhoy ? IOW,  do we make it easy for users to be forgotten?


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