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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Mario Ivankovits <ma...@ops.co.at> on 2007/09/07 17:36:29 UTC
[orchestra] changed scope configuration
Hi!
Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
Basically this means:
* you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never timeout a
conversation on its own.
* the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime" property.
Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
documentation (once it has been published which might take some hours)
<entry key="conversation.normal">
<bean
class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversationScope">
<property name="timeout" value="35" />
<property name="advices">
<list>
<ref
bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
</list>
</property>
</bean>
</entry>
<entry key="conversation.flash">
<bean
class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversationScope">
<property name="advices">
<list>
<ref
bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
</list>
</property>
<property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
</bean>
</entry>
Ciao,
Mario
Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Ok, on rereading I see I did indeed take the wording wrongly. Sorry
for the confusion.
regards,
Martin
On 9/8/07, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Zubin,
>
> Mario specifically mentions that a setting HAS to be made - so I was
> wondering why we want to force users to do this, if it is not
> necessary. Might as well be that I understood his mail wrongly.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 9/8/07, Zubin Wadia <zw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Martin,
> >
> > I think that's what is already happening. If nothing is set - the
> > conversation dies with the session.
> >
> > It used to be that it was hard-wired to last 30 mins.
> >
> > If a specific setting is made in the config, then it supercedes the default
> > which = session timeout.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Zubin
> >
> >
> > On 9/7/07, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Simon,
> > >
> > > I would suspect the default should be same as session, and that the
> > > added value of Orchestra is that a conversation will time out if the
> > > session keeps being used, but only these conversation scoped beans are
> > > not used anymore. Configuration should be available, and it is good
> > > that it is, but my POV is a nice default value would be the session
> > > timeout.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 9/8/07, simon <si...@chello.at> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
> > > > session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
> > > > mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
> > > > quickly than the http session.
> > > >
> > > > Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is
> > > > now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
> > > > Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now
> > > > *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
> > > >
> > > > I hope that's what you were asking about..
> > > >
> > > > Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
> > > > website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
> > > > feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > > > > Hi Mario,
> > > > >
> > > > > why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
> > > > > the session timeout?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann < kmann@virtua.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other
> > things)
> > > > > > at JavaZone next week
> > > > > > (
> > http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276).
> > This means I may
> > > > > > be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > > > > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and
> > mentoring
> > > > > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > > > > > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto: mario@ops.co.at]
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > > > > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > > > > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Basically this means:
> > > > > > > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never
> > timeout
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > conversation on its own.
> > > > > > > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime"
> > property.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > > > > > > documentation (once it has been published which might take some
> > hours)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > > > > > > <bean
> > > > > > >
> > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > > > > ionScope">
> > > > > > > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > > > > <list>
> > > > > > > <ref
> > > > > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > > > > </list>
> > > > > > > </property>
> > > > > > > </bean>
> > > > > > > </entry>
> > > > > > > <entry key=" conversation.flash">
> > > > > > > <bean
> > > > > > >
> > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > > > > ionScope">
> > > > > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > > > > <list>
> > > > > > > <ref
> > > > > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > > > > </list>
> > > > > > > </property>
> > > > > > > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > > > > > > </bean>
> > > > > > > </entry>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > > Mario
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > http://www.irian.at
> > >
> > > Your JSF powerhouse -
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> > > Courses in English and German
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> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
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> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
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JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
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Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zubin,
Mario specifically mentions that a setting HAS to be made - so I was
wondering why we want to force users to do this, if it is not
necessary. Might as well be that I understood his mail wrongly.
regards,
Martin
On 9/8/07, Zubin Wadia <zw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I think that's what is already happening. If nothing is set - the
> conversation dies with the session.
>
> It used to be that it was hard-wired to last 30 mins.
>
> If a specific setting is made in the config, then it supercedes the default
> which = session timeout.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Zubin
>
>
> On 9/7/07, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > I would suspect the default should be same as session, and that the
> > added value of Orchestra is that a conversation will time out if the
> > session keeps being used, but only these conversation scoped beans are
> > not used anymore. Configuration should be available, and it is good
> > that it is, but my POV is a nice default value would be the session
> > timeout.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 9/8/07, simon <si...@chello.at> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
> > > session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
> > > mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
> > > quickly than the http session.
> > >
> > > Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is
> > > now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
> > > Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now
> > > *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
> > >
> > > I hope that's what you were asking about..
> > >
> > > Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
> > > website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
> > > feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > > > Hi Mario,
> > > >
> > > > why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
> > > > the session timeout?
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann < kmann@virtua.com> wrote:
> > > > > Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other
> things)
> > > > > at JavaZone next week
> > > > > (
> http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276).
> This means I may
> > > > > be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > > > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and
> mentoring
> > > > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > > > >
> > > > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > > > > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto: mario@ops.co.at]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > > > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > > > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basically this means:
> > > > > > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never
> timeout
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > conversation on its own.
> > > > > > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime"
> property.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > > > > > documentation (once it has been published which might take some
> hours)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > > > > > <bean
> > > > > >
> class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > > > ionScope">
> > > > > > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > > > <list>
> > > > > > <ref
> > > > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > > > </list>
> > > > > > </property>
> > > > > > </bean>
> > > > > > </entry>
> > > > > > <entry key=" conversation.flash">
> > > > > > <bean
> > > > > >
> class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > > > ionScope">
> > > > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > > > <list>
> > > > > > <ref
> > > > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > > > </list>
> > > > > > </property>
> > > > > > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > > > > > </bean>
> > > > > > </entry>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > > Mario
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > http://www.irian.at
> >
> > Your JSF powerhouse -
> > JSF Consulting, Development and
> > Courses in English and German
> >
> > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
> >
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by Zubin Wadia <zw...@gmail.com>.
Martin,
I think that's what is already happening. If nothing is set - the
conversation dies with the session.
It used to be that it was hard-wired to last 30 mins.
If a specific setting is made in the config, then it supercedes the default
which = session timeout.
Cheers,
Zubin
On 9/7/07, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> I would suspect the default should be same as session, and that the
> added value of Orchestra is that a conversation will time out if the
> session keeps being used, but only these conversation scoped beans are
> not used anymore. Configuration should be available, and it is good
> that it is, but my POV is a nice default value would be the session
> timeout.
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 9/8/07, simon <si...@chello.at> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
> > session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
> > mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
> > quickly than the http session.
> >
> > Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is
> > now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
> > Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now
> > *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
> >
> > I hope that's what you were asking about..
> >
> > Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
> > website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
> > feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > > Hi Mario,
> > >
> > > why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
> > > the session timeout?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> > > > Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other
> things)
> > > > at JavaZone next week
> > > > (http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276). This means
> I may
> > > > be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
> > > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and
> mentoring
> > > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > > >
> > > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > > > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically this means:
> > > > > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never
> timeout
> > > > > a
> > > > > conversation on its own.
> > > > > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime"
> property.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > > > > documentation (once it has been published which might take some
> hours)
> > > > >
> > > > > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > > > > <bean
> > > > > class="
> org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > > ionScope">
> > > > > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> > > > >
> > > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > > <list>
> > > > > <ref
> > > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > > </list>
> > > > > </property>
> > > > > </bean>
> > > > > </entry>
> > > > > <entry key="conversation.flash">
> > > > > <bean
> > > > > class="
> org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > > ionScope">
> > > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > > <list>
> > > > > <ref
> > > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > > </list>
> > > > > </property>
> > > > > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > > > > </bean>
> > > > > </entry>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ciao,
> > > > > Mario
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> http://www.irian.at
>
> Your JSF powerhouse -
> JSF Consulting, Development and
> Courses in English and German
>
> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>
Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simon,
I would suspect the default should be same as session, and that the
added value of Orchestra is that a conversation will time out if the
session keeps being used, but only these conversation scoped beans are
not used anymore. Configuration should be available, and it is good
that it is, but my POV is a nice default value would be the session
timeout.
regards,
Martin
On 9/8/07, simon <si...@chello.at> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
> session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
> mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
> quickly than the http session.
>
> Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is
> now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
> Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now
> *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
>
> I hope that's what you were asking about..
>
> Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
> website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
> feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
>
> Regards,
>
> Simon
>
> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > Hi Mario,
> >
> > why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
> > the session timeout?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> > > Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other things)
> > > at JavaZone next week
> > > (http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276). This means I may
> > > be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
> > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > >
> > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
> > > >
> > > > Basically this means:
> > > > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never timeout
> > > > a
> > > > conversation on its own.
> > > > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime" property.
> > > >
> > > > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > > > documentation (once it has been published which might take some hours)
> > > >
> > > > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > > > <bean
> > > > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > ionScope">
> > > > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> > > >
> > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > <list>
> > > > <ref
> > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > </list>
> > > > </property>
> > > > </bean>
> > > > </entry>
> > > > <entry key="conversation.flash">
> > > > <bean
> > > > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > ionScope">
> > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > <list>
> > > > <ref
> > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > </list>
> > > > </property>
> > > > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > > > </bean>
> > > > </entry>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Mario
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
--
http://www.irian.at
Your JSF powerhouse -
JSF Consulting, Development and
Courses in English and German
Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
RE: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simon [mailto:simon.kitching@chello.at]
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:16 PM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
>
> Hi,
>
> Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
> session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
> mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
> quickly than the http session.
>
> Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is
> now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
> Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now
> *no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
>
> I hope that's what you were asking about..
>
> Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
> website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
> feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
Thanks, Simon. Will do.
> On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> > Hi Mario,
> >
> > why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
> > the session timeout?
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> > > Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other
> things)
> > > at JavaZone next week
> > > (http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276). This
> means I may
> > > be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and
> mentoring
> > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > >
> > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
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> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different
> scopes.
> > > >
> > > > Basically this means:
> > > > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never
> timeout
> > > > a
> > > > conversation on its own.
> > > > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime"
> property.
> > > >
> > > > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > > > documentation (once it has been published which might take some
> hours)
> > > >
> > > > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > > > <bean
> > > >
> class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > ionScope">
> > > > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> > > >
> > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > <list>
> > > > <ref
> > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > </list>
> > > > </property>
> > > > </bean>
> > > > </entry>
> > > > <entry key="conversation.flash">
> > > > <bean
> > > >
> class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > > ionScope">
> > > > <property name="advices">
> > > > <list>
> > > > <ref
> > > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > > </list>
> > > > </property>
> > > > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > > > </bean>
> > > > </entry>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Mario
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by simon <si...@chello.at>.
Hi,
Conversations are stored in the session (indirectly). So when the http
session times out, the conversations automatically go too. The timeout
mentioned here is just in case you want conversations to time out more
quickly than the http session.
Until recently this shorter timeout was hard-wired to 30 minutes. It is
now configurable via the scope declaration in the spring file. And as
Mario mentions, if you don't specify a timeout there the default is now
*no* timeout (ie timeout only when session goes).
I hope that's what you were asking about..
Kito, you might like to look at the new documentation added to the
website recently (esp. in core). It's still a work in progress but any
feedback on what's there so far would be very welcome..
Regards,
Simon
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 23:35 +0200, Martin Marinschek wrote:
> Hi Mario,
>
> why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
> the session timeout?
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
> On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> > Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other things)
> > at JavaZone next week
> > (http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276). This means I may
> > be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
> > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> >
> > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > > To: MyFaces Development
> > > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
> > >
> > > Basically this means:
> > > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never timeout
> > > a
> > > conversation on its own.
> > > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime" property.
> > >
> > > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > > documentation (once it has been published which might take some hours)
> > >
> > > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > > <bean
> > > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > ionScope">
> > > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> > >
> > > <property name="advices">
> > > <list>
> > > <ref
> > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > </list>
> > > </property>
> > > </bean>
> > > </entry>
> > > <entry key="conversation.flash">
> > > <bean
> > > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > > ionScope">
> > > <property name="advices">
> > > <list>
> > > <ref
> > > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > > </list>
> > > </property>
> > > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > > </bean>
> > > </entry>
> > >
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Mario
> >
> >
>
>
Re: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Mario,
why do I have to configure a timeout? Can't the default be taken from
the session timeout?
regards,
Martin
On 9/7/07, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other things)
> at JavaZone next week
> (http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276). This means I may
> be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
>
> * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> > To: MyFaces Development
> > Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
> >
> > Basically this means:
> > * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never timeout
> > a
> > conversation on its own.
> > * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime" property.
> >
> > Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> > documentation (once it has been published which might take some hours)
> >
> > <entry key="conversation.normal">
> > <bean
> > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > ionScope">
> > <property name="timeout" value="35" />
> >
> > <property name="advices">
> > <list>
> > <ref
> > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > </list>
> > </property>
> > </bean>
> > </entry>
> > <entry key="conversation.flash">
> > <bean
> > class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> > ionScope">
> > <property name="advices">
> > <list>
> > <ref
> > bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> > </list>
> > </property>
> > <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> > </bean>
> > </entry>
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mario
>
>
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RE: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.
Very cool, Mario. FYI, I'll be talking about Orchestra (among other things)
at JavaZone next week
(http://www4.java.no/web/show.do?page=92&articleid=5276). This means I may
be asking a lot of questions over the next few days :-).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
* Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:mario@ops.co.at]
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:36 AM
> To: MyFaces Development
> Subject: [orchestra] changed scope configuration
>
> Hi!
>
> Today we cleaned up the way how to configure the different scopes.
>
> Basically this means:
> * you HAVE to configure a timeout now. The default is to never timeout
> a
> conversation on its own.
> * the flash scope is now configured through the "lifetime" property.
>
> Please see here an example or refer to the updated installation
> documentation (once it has been published which might take some hours)
>
> <entry key="conversation.normal">
> <bean
> class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> ionScope">
> <property name="timeout" value="35" />
>
> <property name="advices">
> <list>
> <ref
> bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> </list>
> </property>
> </bean>
> </entry>
> <entry key="conversation.flash">
> <bean
> class="org.apache.myfaces.orchestra.conversation.spring.SpringConversat
> ionScope">
> <property name="advices">
> <list>
> <ref
> bean="persistentContextConversationInterceptor"/>
> </list>
> </property>
> <property name="lifetime" value="flash"/>
> </bean>
> </entry>
>
>
> Ciao,
> Mario