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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> on 2007/04/27 09:42:25 UTC
Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Hi Lenya devs,
since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
of clicks.
Maybe we should put them at the end:
Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
WDYT?
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Joern Nettingsmeier <ne...@folkwang-hochschule.de>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>
>> Hi Lenya devs,
>>
>> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
>> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
>> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
>> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
>> of clicks.
>>
>> Maybe we should put them at the end:
>>
>>
>> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules
>>
>
> I guess the modules are refering to 1.4, right?
>
> I would rather suggest something like
>
>
> Project | Version 1.4 | Version 1.2 | Community
>
> and move the Documentation as sub-tab of Version 1.4 resp. Version 1.2
oh, yes, sorry for my me-too post. this mail only trickled in just now
(lousy mobile)...
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>Hi Lenya devs,
>
>since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
>IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
>1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
>now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
>of clicks.
>
>Maybe we should put them at the end:
>
>
>Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules
>
I guess the modules are refering to 1.4, right?
I would rather suggest something like
Project | Version 1.4 | Version 1.2 | Community
and move the Documentation as sub-tab of Version 1.4 resp. Version 1.2
Michi
> | Version 1.2
>
>
>WDYT?
>
>-- Andreas
>
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Joern Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>
>
> Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> Hi Lenya devs,
>>
>> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
>> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
>> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
>> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
>> of clicks.
>>
>> Maybe we should put them at the end:
>>
>>
>> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
>>
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> +1 for getting rid of a hierarchy level. but i'm not too happy with
> "modules" as it is now.
> it might make sense if we decided to release and develop modules
> independently of our "core releases", like cocoon blocks. but modules
> are exclusive to 1.4 now and will likely retain close ties to particular
> releases for some time to come, so let's put modules documentation under
> 1.4.
> wdyt?
That would conform to Michi's suggestion.
IMO it's a good idea.
BTW, I split up the module list in "Core modules" and "Standard
modules" sections. We could put these directly under 1.4 to get rid
of the additional hierarchy level.
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Joern Nettingsmeier <ne...@folkwang-hochschule.de>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Hi Lenya devs,
>
> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
> of clicks.
>
> Maybe we should put them at the end:
>
>
> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
>
>
> WDYT?
+1 for getting rid of a hierarchy level. but i'm not too happy with
"modules" as it is now.
it might make sense if we decided to release and develop modules
independently of our "core releases", like cocoon blocks. but modules
are exclusive to 1.4 now and will likely retain close ties to particular
releases for some time to come, so let's put modules documentation under
1.4.
wdyt?
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:26 +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
> > On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 09:42 +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> >> Hi Lenya devs,
> >>
> >> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
> >> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
> >> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
> >> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
> >> of clicks.
> >>
> >> Maybe we should put them at the end:
> >>
> >>
> >> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
> >>
> >>
> >> WDYT?
> >>
> >
> > Not sure, we had that before.
> >
> > I like the current one better since all the documentation is gathered
> > under one section.
>
> OK, just in case you'd like to give it another try, the changes
> are visible on the zone for a while now:
> http://lenya.zones.apache.org/docu/
>
> I have to admit that I like it like this.
It is ok for me, since we have now both.
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Joern Nettingsmeier schrieb:
[...]
> i wonder: can we get rid of the "documentation" tab?
> it's not really where most of the documentation is and distracts from
> the 1.2. and 1.4 tabs a little.
> the index page is superflous since we have the 1.2 and 1.4 tabs.
Maybe we could move the explanatory paragraphs to the frontpage.
> coding guidelines would fit better in community/contributing.
I agree.
> "website update", "zone notes" and "release management" could be moved
> there as well, maybe under a sub-heading "administrative tasks" or
> something like that.
+1
> we should link to the zones demos more prominently. we could have "demo"
> headings in both the 1.2. and 1.4 tab. wdyt?
Makes sense.
What do the others think?
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Joern Nettingsmeier <ne...@folkwang-hochschule.de>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
>> On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 09:42 +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>>> Hi Lenya devs,
>>>
>>> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
>>> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
>>> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
>>> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
>>> of clicks.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should put them at the end:
>>>
>>>
>>> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
>>>
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>> Not sure, we had that before.
>>
>> I like the current one better since all the documentation is gathered
>> under one section.
>
> OK, just in case you'd like to give it another try, the changes
> are visible on the zone for a while now:
> http://lenya.zones.apache.org/docu/
>
> I have to admit that I like it like this.
>
> What do the others think?
wow. documentation has come a long way indeed.
i wonder: can we get rid of the "documentation" tab?
it's not really where most of the documentation is and distracts from
the 1.2. and 1.4 tabs a little.
the index page is superflous since we have the 1.2 and 1.4 tabs.
coding guidelines would fit better in community/contributing.
"website update", "zone notes" and "release management" could be moved
there as well, maybe under a sub-heading "administrative tasks" or
something like that.
we should link to the zones demos more prominently. we could have "demo"
headings in both the 1.2. and 1.4 tab. wdyt?
other than those minor issues, i like the new docs very much, and i'd
like to see it deployed asap.
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Thorsten Scherler schrieb:
> On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 09:42 +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> Hi Lenya devs,
>>
>> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
>> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
>> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
>> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
>> of clicks.
>>
>> Maybe we should put them at the end:
>>
>>
>> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
>>
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>
> Not sure, we had that before.
>
> I like the current one better since all the documentation is gathered
> under one section.
OK, just in case you'd like to give it another try, the changes
are visible on the zone for a while now:
http://lenya.zones.apache.org/docu/
I have to admit that I like it like this.
What do the others think?
-- Andreas
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Re: Website: Make 1.4 | Modules | 1.2 top level tabs ?
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 09:42 +0200, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Hi Lenya devs,
>
> since we have only three top-level tabs on the website,
> IMO we can pull up the documentation sections (1.4, Modules,
> 1.2) and make them top-level tabs. They are not very prominent
> now anyway. Pulling them up would also reduce the number
> of clicks.
>
> Maybe we should put them at the end:
>
>
> Project | Community | Documentation | Version 1.4 | Modules | Version 1.2
>
>
> WDYT?
>
Not sure, we had that before.
I like the current one better since all the documentation is gathered
under one section.
salu2
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