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Posted to user@uima.apache.org by Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> on 2011/05/04 10:42:13 UTC
UIMA Python integration?
Hi,
what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either
the BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't
tried either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS)
clients in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline
from a language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST
server for this, but it has serious limitations.
Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with
XMI files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I
can't find a copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I
found no mention on the mailing list of what happened to the project and
the discussion about seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
Jens
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your answers.
To pursue the discussion,
I d like to develop python applications which manage UIMA workflows
(creation, instantiation of AE, ...) in a similar way to the
org.apache.uima.UIMAFramework class described in the Chapter 3.
Application Developer's Guide of UIMA Tutorial and Developers' Guides
[1]
Any hints ? Or code examples ?
Best
[1] http://uima.apache.org/d/uimaj-2.4.0/tutorials_and_users_guides.html#ugr.tug.application
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Renaud Richardet
<re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Nicholas,
>
> Here is an example Annotation Engine that will let you use Python scripts
> (using Jython):
> https://gist.github.com/1513709
> https://gist.github.com/1513763
>
> If there is any interest, I could contribute the code & tests to UIMA.
>
> Merry Xmas, Renaud
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nicolas,
>>
>> we haven't really made any progress. Right now we're using only Java
>> within the UIMA pipeline (and one C++ annotator).
>>
>> We then generate XMIs (or in some cases inline XML to get annotations
>> aligned automatically) and work on that in Python, without a library and
>> probably not even dealing with the XMI format entirely correctly. :-(
>>
>> Anyway, things are not pretty, but we just don't have time to actually
>> develop a better solution.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Jens
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2011 12:13 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 6 months later.
>>>
>>> Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
>>> Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
>>> No other alternative ?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein<ea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
>>>> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>>>>
>>>> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
>>>> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
>>>> integration, assuming it works.
>>>>
>>>> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
>>>> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
>>>> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>>>>
>>>> Eddie
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla<j+...@grivolla.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either
>>>>> the
>>>>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>>>>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS)
>>>>> clients
>>>>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>>>>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST
>>>>> server for
>>>>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with
>>>>> XMI
>>>>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't
>>>>> find a
>>>>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no
>>>>> mention on
>>>>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion
>>>>> about
>>>>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens
>>>>>
>>>>>
--
Dr. Nicolas Hernandez
Associate Professor (Maître de Conférences)
Université de Nantes - LINA CNRS
http://enicolashernandez.blogspot.com
http://www.univ-nantes.fr/hernandez-n
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Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Renaud Richardet <re...@gmail.com>.
Hi Nicholas,
Here is an example Annotation Engine that will let you use Python scripts
(using Jython):
https://gist.github.com/1513709
https://gist.github.com/1513763
If there is any interest, I could contribute the code & tests to UIMA.
Merry Xmas, Renaud
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
> Hi Nicolas,
>
> we haven't really made any progress. Right now we're using only Java
> within the UIMA pipeline (and one C++ annotator).
>
> We then generate XMIs (or in some cases inline XML to get annotations
> aligned automatically) and work on that in Python, without a library and
> probably not even dealing with the XMI format entirely correctly. :-(
>
> Anyway, things are not pretty, but we just don't have time to actually
> develop a better solution.
>
> Bye,
> Jens
>
>
> On 12/16/2011 12:13 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> 6 months later.
>>
>> Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
>> Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
>> No other alternative ?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein<ea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
>>> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>>>
>>> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
>>> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
>>> integration, assuming it works.
>>>
>>> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
>>> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
>>> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla<j+...@grivolla.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>>>
>>>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either
>>>> the
>>>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>>>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>>>
>>>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS)
>>>> clients
>>>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>>>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST
>>>> server for
>>>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with
>>>> XMI
>>>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't
>>>> find a
>>>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no
>>>> mention on
>>>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion
>>>> about
>>>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>>>
>>>>
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net>.
Hi Nicolas,
we haven't really made any progress. Right now we're using only Java
within the UIMA pipeline (and one C++ annotator).
We then generate XMIs (or in some cases inline XML to get annotations
aligned automatically) and work on that in Python, without a library and
probably not even dealing with the XMI format entirely correctly. :-(
Anyway, things are not pretty, but we just don't have time to actually
develop a better solution.
Bye,
Jens
On 12/16/2011 12:13 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Hi
>
> 6 months later.
>
> Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
> Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
> No other alternative ?
>
> Best
>
> /Nicolas
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein<ea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
>> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>>
>> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
>> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
>> integration, assuming it works.
>>
>> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
>> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
>> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla<j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>>
>>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either the
>>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>>
>>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS) clients
>>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST server for
>>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>>
>>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with XMI
>>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't find a
>>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no mention on
>>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion about
>>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>>
>>> Jens
>>>
>>>
>
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Hi
6 months later.
Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
No other alternative ?
Best
/Nicolas
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein <ea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>
> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
> integration, assuming it works.
>
> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>
> Eddie
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>
>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either the
>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>
>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS) clients
>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST server for
>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>
>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with XMI
>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't find a
>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no mention on
>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion about
>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Eddie Epstein <ea...@gmail.com>.
The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
integration, assuming it works.
The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
supports XmiCas serialization methods.
Eddie
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>
> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either the
> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>
> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS) clients
> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST server for
> this, but it has serious limitations.
>
> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with XMI
> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't find a
> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no mention on
> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion about
> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>
> Jens
>
>